Disaster Mass shooting at florida high school - Beware the autism

http://www.wesh.com/article/multiple-injuries-reported-in-shooting-at-florida-high-school/17887738

Multiple people have been injured in an active shooter situation at a high school in south Florida, police confirmed.

The Broward Sheriff's Office is responding to the shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland.

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The Coral Springs Police Department is asking students and teachers to remain barricaded inside until police reach you.

According to WSVN, at least three people were seen surrounded by first responders and one person was seen being wheeled into an ambulance. There are reports of up to 20 injuries.
 
Can't wait til they unironically call for whites to be declared second class citizens because they always shoot up shit.

Exactly. People who are hell bent on killing as many people as possible don't need a gun. It's just an avenue for them to carry out their plan. The absence of which will cause them to find another equally effective method.
Cracked (all of places) had an article that said mass shootings are really rare and that gun crimes are down. I'd also like to point out the deadliest school massacre wasn't a shooting, it was a bombing. Get rid of guns, and you'll have more trucks of peace and bombs of peace.
 
I dunno. Explosives and Vehicles come to mind without needing to do any hard thought.

Has a vehicle ever killed 50 people from the 32nd floor of a hotel?

What is equally as effective? There's a reason we equip every one of our troops and police with a firearm as their main weapon, rather than a truck of peace.
 
What is "equally as effective" as a gun?
Truck bombs and pressure cooker bombs both which include substances and materials you can easily get at your local store.

Has a vehicle ever killed 50 people from the 32nd floor of a hotel?

What is equally as effective? There's a reason we equip every one of our troops and police with a firearm as their main weapon, rather than a truck of peace.
Not from the 32nd floor but a vehicle has killed over 50 people.
 
No, but an explosive lobbed from the 32'nd floor into a crowd below could. Very easily.

You'd think if explosives were equally as effective, we'd hear more about them being used. I think the fact they're not has a lot to do with how hard they are to come by.

Makes you think.

Truck bombs and pressure cooker bombs both which include substances and materials you can easily get at your local store.

And yet they all turn to guns. Maybe they're not so easy to make as you think.
 
You'd think if explosives were equally as effective, we'd hear more about them being used. I think the fact they're not has a lot to do with how hard they are to come by.

Makes you think.
Maybe because people don't need to resort to using them because they have guns.

"SO TAKE AWAY THE GUNS!!"

Then they'll use explosives.

My point is, no matter what you do, people who want to kill large numbers of people WILL find a way. Humans suck.
 
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Maybe because people don't need to resort to using them because they have guns.

"SO TAKE AWAY THE GUNS!!"

Then they'll use explosives.

My point is, no matter what you do, people who want to kill large numbers of people WILL find a way. Humans suck.

Except this only seems to happen with regularity here. Australia doesn't have an outrageous bomb problem.

I think you underestimate how lazy and impulsive people are. It's super easy to grab an accessible gun and start shooting in a moment of anger, but to actually take the time to craft bombs takes a special kind of dedication. If we only had to deal with the crazies who take time to craft a bomb, we'd save at least all the people dead because someone got mad and had a gun.
 
Exactly. People who are hell bent on killing as many people as possible don't need a gun. It's just an avenue for them to carry out their plan. The absence of which will cause them to find another equally effective method.(Driving a truck of peace into a crowd comes to mind)

The "REEEE-tards" who cry for taking away everyone's guns can't see beyond the virtue signal of "how many more kids need to die"

A similar parallel happened with child molesters in the 90's. "How many more kids have to get victimized before we do something" was behind the creation of the registry. And the registry hasn't done shit to reduce the number of kids getting diddled, while opening up the concept that it's "ok" to force citizens to participate in monitoring programs for the safety of the community.

Sure, no one gave a shit at the time 'cause who the fuck cares about some chomo's. But look what happened. Pissing in public was enough to get you put on it in the most extreme cases and all it does is cost a shit ton of money, resources and time to keep up that only really provides some laughs on the internet and a slightly more convenient way to deny someone a job or housing.

So what were you added to the registry for
 
Except this only seems to happen with regularity here.

I think you underestimate how lazy and impulsive people are. It's super easy to grab an accessible gun and start shooting in a moment of anger, but to actually take the time to craft bombs takes a special kind of dedication. If we only had to deal with the crazies who take time to craft a bomb, we'd save at least all the people dead because someone got mad and had a gun.
Eh, whatever. I don't think taking away the rights of 100's of millions of people simply because an incredibly infinitesimal percentage of unhinged lunatics is either fair, nor justified.

I get the knee jerk reaction to take away a tool. But a tool only does it's job in the hands of someone using it. Someone needing to hammer a nail without a hammer will find something else. Taking hammers away from an entire country because a few used a hammer wrong is kind of overkill.
 
Unpopular opinion: I think if you immediately jump on people saying "gun control now" or "gun control never" in the aftermath of a school shooting then you're pretty fucking tone deaf. While I don't agree with gun control, suggesting or pushing a method you seriously believe can prevent tragedy is a totally reasonable response. For fuck's sake, I feel like if we were in 1912 some of you guys would bitch at people for politicizing the Titanic when they demand more lifeboats on ships.

I completely agree, but it's just that some people are very disrespectful/transparent when it comes to pushing their agenda. Like, it's blatantly obvious that a lot of blue checkmarks on Twitter just love using any opportunity to play Soapbox Sadie and preach to everyone about how good their ideas are.

Suggestions and ideas in the wake of a tragedy are helpful, but it's all in the execution.
 
Except this only seems to happen with regularity here. Australia doesn't have an outrageous bomb problem.

I think you underestimate how lazy and impulsive people are. It's super easy to grab an accessible gun and start shooting in a moment of anger, but to actually take the time to craft bombs takes a special kind of dedication. If we only had to deal with the crazies who take time to craft a bomb, we'd save at least all the people dead because someone got mad and had a gun.
I'd like to point out those crazies either get their guns illegally or have no prior incidents which would prevent them from owning a gun. Hell the Pulse shooter was a security guard who was licensed to own a firearm. The sandy hook shooter was denied a gun by a gun shop, only to kill his mother and steal her guns. Point is if a crazy wants to get his hand on a gun he'll do anything to get it.

Also, where the fuck were the couches they could have easily stopped this shooting?
 
Except this only seems to happen with regularity here. Australia doesn't have an outrageous bomb problem.

I think you underestimate how lazy and impulsive people are. It's super easy to grab an accessible gun and start shooting in a moment of anger, but to actually take the time to craft bombs takes a special kind of dedication. If we only had to deal with the crazies who take time to craft a bomb, we'd save at least all the people dead because someone got mad and had a gun.
Maybe we could, I don't know, start placing violent mentally ill people in special facilities to keep them from harming themselves or others?
 
Eh, whatever. I don't think taking away the rights of 100's of millions of people simply because an incredibly infinitesimal percentage of unhinged lunatics is either fair, nor justified.

I get the knee jerk reaction to take away a tool. But a tool only does it's job in the hands of someone using it. Someone needing to hammer a nail without a hammer will find something else. Taking hammers away from an entire country because a few used a hammer wrong is kind of overkill.

The issue here is everyone acts like the solution is either "LET EVERYONE HAVE GUNS!" or "NO ONE CAN HAVE GUNS!", but there are tons of solutions between those two that we can try but we don't, because everyone focuses on those two only. If everyone could take a breath, I think both sides have way more they agree with than they realize, and we could make real, significant change.

Also, we have a pro-gun lobby buying off politicians left and right. I mean, the fact we couldn't pass a law banning the modification the Las Vegas shooter used to make his weapon automatic in the weeks after the deadliest mass shooting in our history speaks volumes to this.
 
Unpopular opinion: I think if you immediately jump on people saying "gun control now" or "gun control never" in the aftermath of a school shooting then you're pretty fucking tone deaf. While I don't agree with gun control, suggesting or pushing a method you seriously believe can prevent tragedy is a totally reasonable response. For fuck's sake, I feel like if we were in 1912 some of you guys would bitch at people for politicizing the Titanic when they demand more lifeboats on ships.

I think a lot of frustration comes from the argument always stalling. Long before it can ever become measured and conclusive, another mass shooting happens. There probably needs to be a long term body appointed to consider the issue and examine all the options, and especially whether the current situation regarding private gun ownership in the US goes well beyond the intention of the Second Amendment (ain't nobody buying guns these days in order to be part of "a well regulated militia").

Either the Second Amendment itself needs to be changed or the current interpretation of it needs to change. That's not an obstacle other countries which have introduced gun control quickly have had to face.

Except this only seems to happen with regularity here. Australia doesn't have an outrageous bomb problem.

We didn't have a huge mass shooting problem, either. It's still possible for people to buy banned weapons if they're really committed, but there's sure as hell a lot less impulse shootings and impulsive suicides by gun now that fewer people have them at their disposal. Even the storage requirements buy a small amount of time in which someone's impulse might fade.

The prevalence of legal guns is also higher here than many people might realise. It's roughly 24 per 100 people, only slightly less than Switzerland.
 
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The issue here is everyone acts like the solution is either "LET EVERYONE HAVE GUNS!" or "NO ONE CAN HAVE GUNS!", but there are tons of solutions between those two that we can try but we don't, because everyone focuses on those two only. If everyone could take a breath, I think both sides have way more they agree with than they realize, and we could make real, significant change.

Also, we have a pro-gun lobby buying off politicians left and right. I mean, the fact we couldn't pass a law banning the modification the Las Vegas shooter used to make his weapon automatic in the weeks after the deadliest mass shooting in our history speaks volumes to this.
I don't disagree with anything you said here. I'm sure there's a compromise. I don't think some of the firepower available needs to be as readily available as it is. Sure. But background checks haven't seemed to prevent much of anything. So the next step is outlawing them.
 
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