Disaster Mass shooting at florida high school - Beware the autism

http://www.wesh.com/article/multiple-injuries-reported-in-shooting-at-florida-high-school/17887738

Multiple people have been injured in an active shooter situation at a high school in south Florida, police confirmed.

The Broward Sheriff's Office is responding to the shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland.

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The Coral Springs Police Department is asking students and teachers to remain barricaded inside until police reach you.

According to WSVN, at least three people were seen surrounded by first responders and one person was seen being wheeled into an ambulance. There are reports of up to 20 injuries.
 
Or instead of teachers starting a gun fight around children perhaps the US shouldn't be full exceptional individual around guns and actually engage in serious gun reform like every other developed nation.

People say that the issues is "Ban all guns" or "Allow all guns" but honestly, the issue is that the pro-gun side are a bunch of REEEEEEEEEEEing dipshits when it comes to guns who don't give a fucking shit about children dying if it means having a fucking basic mental health check or better regulation around 2nd hand fire arm sales or more strict enforcement against unregistered firearms.

It also doesn't help the Right have blocked basically anything to do with reasonable healthcare in the United States basically blocking crazies from being identified or getting treatment because they can't afford exorbitant healthcare and Asylums have all been shut down.

Honestly, this shit only happens to the scale it does in the US and it's obvious to anybody with eyes why.

Not that there is much point to this debate. Americans made their choice with Sandy Hook, any not fucking batshit country would have moved after that, but the US, nope, in fact, gun laws became more lax.

We're having a Freedom Friday sale! Bullets are free for communists.
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Dude is a Paw Patrol sperg.

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Ban fully automatic assault autists
 
Honestly i just still can't get over how flimsy laws are around here and i didn't want to be alone with it.
The laws aren't flimsy, enforcement is. Straw purchases are way illegal yet all the gangbangers with felony records have shiny new pistols and rifles bought by their girlfriends. The BATF only prosecutes like 3 cases a year for that. It's ridiculous.

But then we have cases like Jared Lee Loughner who were squeaky clean. There was nothing on their records to flag them. I am guessing that's the case with this kid too.

What laws do you think would help in a case like that? Full mental screens? That's going to piss people off bigtime because every person who went through a bought of depression after a divorce is going to get flagged. Same with veterans with PTSD ratings. People who have had strokes. Etc. And even then people like the Vegas shooter would slip through.

There isn't a sure-fire law that can be implemented to stop these things. Spree shooters are by their nature difficult to stop with laws and regulations.
 
Both he and his biological brother were adopted by the same couple. He was adopted at birth. Newborns are in huge demand, so it's unusual for them to be placed with an ageing couple (the mother was 68 when she died last year, so would have been around 50 when he was adopted). According to a former neighbour, his adoptive mother wanted someone else to take the children once her husband died. Being raised for many years by a woman who no longer wanted the kids around would be unsettling for any children.
I don't blame her when there were thirty-fucking-nine police dispatches called to the house since 2011, mainly domestic. After the husband's death, he went from living in a big house, to a fucking trailer park and another friend's house where he was apprehended.

But then we have cases like Jared Lee Loughner who were squeaky clean. There was nothing on their records to flag them. I am guessing that's the case with this kid too.
Apart from a possible police record with his family, the fact the FBI was tipped off and didn't do anything is crazy. It's not like @FuckYou, who got away with it saying it was a joke and didn't even own a firearm at the time I mean, this guy with a social media history of making threats, was kicked out of schools and owned an AR-15. What could possibly go wrong? /sarcasm

I suppose the FBI is busy with all hands on deck for the Trump-Russia conspiracy.
 
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Once he was on the loose, Cruz eluded officers long enough to stop by a Walmart and a McDonald's before he was captured and confessed everything, according to law enforcement officials and court documents.

It's creepy and all that he was apparently just chilling out in public for a while with onlookers none the wiser, but he did get to have tendies one last time.

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Not sure if too soon, but
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Or instead of teachers starting a gun fight around children perhaps the US shouldn't be full exceptional individual around guns and actually engage in serious gun reform like every other developed nation.

People say that the issues is "Ban all guns" or "Allow all guns" but honestly, the issue is that the pro-gun side are a bunch of REEEEEEEEEEEing dipshits when it comes to guns who don't give a fucking shit about children dying if it means having a fucking basic mental health check or better regulation around 2nd hand fire arm sales or more strict enforcement against unregistered firearms.

It also doesn't help the Right have blocked basically anything to do with reasonable healthcare in the United States basically blocking crazies from being identified or getting treatment because they can't afford exorbitant healthcare and Asylums have all been shut down.

Honestly, this shit only happens to the scale it does in the US and it's obvious to anybody with eyes why.

Not that there is much point to this debate. Americans made their choice with Sandy Hook, any not fucking batshit country would have moved after that, but the US, nope, in fact, gun laws became more lax.
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WHAT PART OF THAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND, YOU STUPID COMMIE?

 
Or instead of teachers starting a gun fight around children perhaps the US shouldn't be full exceptional individual around guns and actually engage in serious gun reform like every other developed nation.

People say that the issues is "Ban all guns" or "Allow all guns" but honestly, the issue is that the pro-gun side are a bunch of REEEEEEEEEEEing dipshits when it comes to guns who don't give a fucking shit about children dying if it means having a fucking basic mental health check or better regulation around 2nd hand fire arm sales or more strict enforcement against unregistered firearms.

It also doesn't help the Right have blocked basically anything to do with reasonable healthcare in the United States basically blocking crazies from being identified or getting treatment because they can't afford exorbitant healthcare and Asylums have all been shut down.

Honestly, this shit only happens to the scale it does in the US and it's obvious to anybody with eyes why.

Not that there is much point to this debate. Americans made their choice with Sandy Hook, any not fucking batshit country would have moved after that, but the US, nope, in fact, gun laws became more lax.

Whether you like it or not, the US is exceptional for the reason that the founders took this out the "enlightened" modern liberal centrists hands. Those other countries have also compromised on most every other fundamental liberty other than the one to have tyrone or mohammed fuck your wife while you praise the diversity of mass migration.
 
Both he and his biological brother were adopted by the same couple. He was adopted at birth. Newborns are in huge demand, so it's unusual for them to be placed with an ageing couple (the mother was 68 when she died last year, so would have been around 50 when he was adopted). According to a former neighbour, his adoptive mother wanted someone else to take the children once her husband died. Being raised for many years by a woman who no longer wanted the kids around would be unsettling for any children.

Two sibs from the same family means the bioparents, both of them, were likely categorically unfit to care for children and probably had some major mental problems. Going to an aging family also means they were probably turned down by younger couples first, which isn't a great sign. Adoptive parents who are less than perfectly qualified are often so glad to get a newborn that they don't ask too many questions. They believe nurture will trump nature and that they've got a tabula rasa of a child. It's only later on that they realize a kid born to, say, a schizophrenic mother impregnated by her repeat-felon boyfriend may have some challenges that are not fixable with love and a stable home environment. Some kids just never have a chance.
 
I hope he gets beaten and raped in prison.
I don't know where I stand. Florida has the death penalty and he will most likely get it as long as all jurors vote for it.
He will either get the chair or an injection based on his decision, but the governor could commute him to 17xlife in prison.

Part of me wants to see him rot, but I think watching him jiggle on the chair may deter some future autistic copycats.
 
It would be nice if something were done about this shit. Whether it's better gun control or better mental health care, something has to change.

I remember that I posted something about how things like this shouldn't be politicized, but fuck it, this shit is a political issue. It can only be fixed by our politicians if they bothered to give a shit about something other than themselves.

There has to be compromise somewhere. I don't know how. But this shit is becoming disgustingly common now.

God for-fucking-bid parents send their children to school with the expectation that they won't be riddled with goddamn bullets.

Here's a list of the victims per MSN

— Alyssa Alhadeff, 14

Alyssa, a freshman, had been reported missing by her grandmother Wednesday after the shooting. Her cousin Ariella Del Quaglio confirmed the student’s death via Facebook on Thursday.

— Scott Beigel, 35

Beigel was a geography teacher and a cross country coach at the school who unlocked his classroom to allow panicked students to take shelter inside during the shooting. He was struck and killed by a bullet while closing the door behind them.

Kelsey Friend, one of the students whose lives he saved, told CNN, “When he opened the door, he had to relock it so that we could stay safe, but he didn’t get the chance.”

Directly addressing Beigel’s family, Friend said, “Thank you for bringing and having this amazing person in life and giving him the power to be stronger than I could have ever been.”

Thomas Risley, 15, said he had been in Beigel’s world history class earlier in the day. They were doing assessments and talking about the Glorious Revolution.

Risley said he can’t believe his teacher is gone.

“He cared a lot about his students,” he said. “It’s going to be really sad walking into that classroom and not seeing him. I’m going to miss his colorful personality.”

— Martin Duque, 14

Martin, a freshman, was at school Wednesday and died in the shooting. His older brother Miguel, who graduated from Stoneman Douglas High last year, shared the news via an Instagram post early Thursday morning. “Words can not describe my pain,” he wrote. “I love brother Martin you’ll be missed buddy.”

— Nicholas Dworet, 17

Nicholas, a senior who had just received a swimming scholarship to the University of Indianapolis, was killed. Glenn Greenwald, a journalist with The Intercept, shared the news on Twitter.

— Aaron Feis, 37

Feis, an assistant football coach, was critically injured after jumping in front of the shooter to protect students. He died from his wounds Wednesday night. The school’s football team announced the news on its Twitter account.

— Jaime Guttenberg, 14

Jamie, a student at the school, was killed during the rampage. Her father, Fred, shared the tragic news in a Facebook post.

“My heart is broken. Yesterday, Jennifer Bloom Guttenberg and I lost our baby girl to a violent shooting at her school. We lost our daughter and my son Jesse Guttenberg lost his sister. I am broken as I write this trying to figure out how my family gets through this. We appreciate all of the calls and messages and we apologize for not reacting to everyone individually. Jen and I will be figuring things out today and so we ask that you respect our privacy. We will be getting messages out later regarding visitation. Hugs to all and hold your children tight.”

— Chris Hixon, 49

Hixon, the athletic director at the high school, was confirmed dead by family and friends Thursday. He previously served as South Broward High School’s athletic director.

Luke Hoyer, 15

Luke was confirmed to have died on the third floor of the school by family members.

“This has devastated our family and we’re all in shock and disbelief. Our hearts are broken. Luke was a beautiful human being and greatly loved,” posted his uncle, Toni Brownlee, on Facebook. “Also, pray for the other families whose loved were also murdered so cruelly.”

His aunt, Mary Stroud-Gibbs, also shared her pain: “Our Luke was a precious child, who just went to school yesterday not knowing what was to come.”

— Cara Loughran, 14

Cara was confirmed dead by a peer counselor at her church.

“RIP Cara, and fly with the angels. You will be greatly missed, and we will always love you and celebrate your beautiful life,” her neighbor wrote on Facebook.

— Gina Montalto, 14

Gina, a freshman, served on the school’s winter guard team. She died late Wednesday night, friends and family confirmed on social media. Gina had been missing after the shooting and was not answering her phone.

One of her color guard instructors from middle school, Manuel Miranda, posted about her death Wednesday night.

“My heart is broken into pieces. I will forever remember you, my sweet angel,” Miranda told the Miami Herald. Miranda taught Montalto last year at Westglades Middle School in Broward. “She was the sweetest soul ever. She was kind, caring, always smiling and wanting to help.”

The Stoneman Douglas winter guard group was scheduled to perform at a regional event in Tampa this weekend.

— Joaquin Oliver, 17

Joaquin was born in Venezuela and moved to the U.S. at the age of 3 with his family. He had become a U.S. citizen in January 2017.

His Instagram account includes several photos with his mother and sister, to whom he was extremely close. His girlfriend, Victoria Gonzalez, confirmed he was killed in the massacre.

— Alaina Petty, 14

Alaina was confirmed dead, according to friends and family.

“There are no hashtags for moments like this, only sadness,” said Claudette McMahon Joshi, Petty’s great-aunt. “Our hearts are with them and all the families touched by this tragedy.”

In a statement, her family said Alaina was a member of the JROTC program and volunteered with the “Helping Hands” program of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, including a cleanup of the Keys after Hurricane Irma.

“It is impossible to sum up all that Alaina was, and meant, to her family & friends,” the family wrote. “Alaina was a vibrant and determined young woman, loved by all who knew her.”

— Meadow Pollack, 18

Pollack, a senior, planned to attend Lynn University. She was confirmed dead early Thursday.

“Please say a prayer for the family of an amazing girl I got to call my best friend growing up,” posted her friend Gii Lovito on Facebook. “Her life was taken way too soon and I have no words to describe how this feels.”

— Helena Ramsey, 17

Helena would have started college next year. Her family member, in a lengthy Facebook post, called her a “smart, kind hearted and thoughtful person.”

“Though she was some what reserved, she had a relentless motivation towards her academic studies, and her soft warm demeanor brought the best out in all who knew her. She was so brilliant and witty, and I’m still wrestling with the idea that she is actually gone.”

Helena’s death was confirmed via an official —yet incomplete — list of victims released by the Broward County State Attorney’s Office.

— Alex Schachter, 14

Alex, a marching band student, was confirmed dead by a former instructor as well as by Congregation Beth Am in Longwood.

— Carmen Schentrup, 16

Schentrup, a 2017 National Merit Scholar semifinalist, was confirmed dead Thursday morning by several friends on social media.

— Peter Wang, 15

Peter was in the school’s ROTC program, and he was last seen wearing the gray uniform with black stripes as he held open the door so others could escape, his cousin, Aaron Chen, told the Miami Herald. Peter, who Aaron described as brave, was in study hall when the shooting started.

His best friend, Gabriel Ammirata, said Peter was “funny, nice and a great friend. He’s been my best friend since third grade.”

Gabriel planned to celebrate the Chinese New Year on Thursday with Peter and his family at the Chinese restaurant Peter’s family owned.

There are no thoughts or prayers that will help the greiving families of the victims. I don't even know what to say anymore.
 
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