Konami: The Downspiral Shitstorm + The Impossible Task of Winning Back Fans (METAL GEAR SURVIVE) - HIT THE LEVER

[Billy_Sama]

I am just disappointed that they will never make another Goemon game.

 

[Secret Asshole]

If I were Konami I would use the fox engine to make a metal gear 1 (not MGS1) remaster like capcom is doing with RE7/RE2Remaster.
MGSurvive and a Rising2 being the Ressident evil7 and a MG remake being the RE 1/2 remasters.

Konami is not smart and fucking lol at people putting more blame on Kojima than them. This is a Konami, to simply fuck with Kojima, REMOVED Silent Hills from the PS4 download store so no one could ever download it again, in addition to cancelling it. And cancelling a game with massive hype and desire which Capcom had some moment of fucking clarity and capitalized on it with RE 7, making massive amounts of money. They were so spiteful, they wouldn't even let the guy attend a Doritos sponsored event that doesn't matter at the end of the day but bought them a massive amount of hate for no reason but spiting Kojima. And you're telling me that they're worse than some artist who has a big of ego (IE: All of them)? Fucking lol. Konami is egotistical to the point of being an autistic teenage re,tarded eating a tide-pod and drowning it with a cool glass of bleach. To blame Kojima more than Konami is really fucking stupid and being obviously contrarian. Konami in no way, shape or form would have ever let Kojima finish the game he wanted, even if it was for a dollar fifty.

This isn't Electronic Arts level, this is autistic re,tard level. Also, all signs point to Konami not putting up with any more budget, leaving it unfinished. Who could afford more than the 80 million it was made for. Its not like Kojima was blowing a 200 million dollar budget here. Konami made the game unfinished by a known quantity for 80 million, and if you hire the guy you know what he's like. They gave him his own division to fuck around with and then suddenly, 'oh sorry, these polaks made a game for $85 million and its like the best game ever. we're not giving you another dime lol'.

Also, 'Act 3' wasn't even the ending, but some additional mission that got cut. Which Kojima does all the fucking time. He's done this since MGS 1 (cutting large swathes of things), its just that he had a terrible relationship with Konami this time.

It was made unfinished by spite-fucking from Konami and Kojima throwing his name on every chapter was spite-fucking back. MGS V is basically the child of a messy divorce, which is unfortunate. Konami is more than comically evil, its an inept, re.tarded child and has been for a very long time.

Its fucked up every good series it has and has had other companies to replicate the potential of the IPs it owns, making them tons of money. I see no reason to buy a mildly OK zombie co-op game to support what is essentially an autistic screaming child playing in its own shit.

 

[Ruin]

Konami is not smart and fucking lol at people putting more blame on Kojima than them. This is a Konami, to simply fuck with Kojima, REMOVED Silent Hills from the PS4 download store so no one could ever download it again, in addition to cancelling it. And cancelling a game with massive hype and desire which Capcom had some moment of fucking clarity and capitalized on it with RE 7, making massive amounts of money. They were so spiteful, they wouldn't even let the guy attend a doritos sponsered event. And you're telling me that they're worse than some artist who has a big of ego (IE: All of them)? Fucking lol. Konami is egotistical to the point of being an autistic teenage exceptional eating a tide-pod. To blame Kojima more than Konami is really fucking stupid and being contrarian.

This isn't Electronic Arts level, this is autistic re,tard level. Also, all signs point to Konami not putting up with any more budget, leaving it unfinished. Who could afford more than the 80 million it was made for. Its not like Kojima was blowing a 200 million dollar budget here. Konami made the game unfinished by a known quantity for 80 million, and if you hire the guy you know what he's like. They gave him his own division to fuck around with and then suddenly, 'oh sorry, these polaks made a game for $85 million and its like the best game ever. we're not giving you another dime lol'.

Also, 'Act 3' wasn't even the ending, but some additional mission that got cut. Which Kojima does all the fucking time. He's done this since MGS 1 (cutting large swathes of things), its just that he had a terrible relationship with Konami this time.

It was made unfinished by spite-fucking from Konami and Kojima throwing his name on every chapter was spite-fucking back. MGS V is basically the child of a messy divorce, which is unfortunate. Konami is more than comically evil, its an inept, re.tarded child and has been for a very long time.

Its fucked up every good series it has and has had other companies to replicate the potential of the IPs it owns, making them tons of money. I see no reason to buy a mildly OK zombie co-op game to support what is essentially an autistic screaming child playing in its own shit.

No idea if it's true or not but I heard Konami wants to kill it's gaming division entirely so they can focus solely on scamming nip shekels from retirees via pachinko.

 

[Secret Asshole]

No idea if it's true or not but I heard Konami wants to kill it's gaming division entirely so they can focus solely on scamming nip shekels from retirees via pachinko.

This is absolutely true. They have said they are not a gaming company and are looking to retire all of their titles except for this one soccer game that normie dumbfucks buy because it makes so much money that even Konami cannot ignore it. MGS Survive was made solely to rub salt in Kojima's face. Its basically re-uses assets in an engine they already have. Its not like it cost them a lot of fucking work to make. As far as I know, the soccer game and this are the only games they have lined up. Maybe it'll sting, maybe it won't, but Sony has basically given Kojima a blank check and told him to go HAM. The fact that Konami still care is just more of how fucking stupid they are.

You also have to remember Konami are family owned, which is very rare for a corp these days. So it isn't like a corporate board can go, 'Hey, you're letting really expensive IPs die on the vine that everyone else is taking advantage of, lets do something about that'. Its more this one spiteful faggot going 'lol, let them die'. They apparently make a shit-ton of money through like gyms and gambling and shit. People know of Konami in Japan as more a gym and gambling company than a gaming one.

 

[keksz]

No idea if it's true or not but I heard Konami wants to kill it's gaming division

It's more of a fact than a theory at this point. Personally, I wouldn't say that they "want" to kill their gaming projects but more like it's becoming increasingly difficult to keep it going. Game budgets (especially at the level of MGS titles) are becoming on par with Hollywood productions (and rising, which is why we see so many microtransactions nowadays, on top of AAA prices). They also lost Kojima who was the main guy there behind gaming and are now working at a loss against fans who feel betrayed.

It's not easy making games and maybe they just weren't making enough money out of it to continue working on them. Sure, MGS always sells - but does it sell enough to offset the huge production costs? Also how risky is it to put so much work ($$$) into a game and risk it being a flop? I remember even MGSV getting some criticism for its second half feeling less than polished or whatever (didn't actually play it though). Maybe they felt it wasn't a reliable market anymore.

 

[Secret Asshole]

It's more of a fact than a theory at this point. Personally, I wouldn't say that they "want" to kill their gaming projects but more like it's becoming increasingly difficult to keep it going. Game budgets (especially at the level of MGS titles) are becoming on par with Hollywood productions (and rising, which is why we see so many microtransactions nowadays, on top of AAA prices). They also lost Kojima who was the main guy there behind gaming and are now working at a loss against fans who feel betrayed.

It's not easy making games and maybe they just weren't making enough money out of it to continue working on them. Sure, MGS always sells - but does it sell enough to offset the huge production costs? Also how risky is it to put so much work ($$$) into a game and risk it being a flop? I remember even MGSV getting some criticism for its second half feeling less than polished or whatever (didn't actually play it though). Maybe they felt it wasn't a reliable market anymore.

No, they have said 'they are not a gaming company'. It has nothing to do with cost, lots of internal shit revealed that Konami doesn't believe games are profitable (lol) and has revealed they only want to exploit their existing franchises for plachinko machines. MGS V cost $80 million (which is cheap as fuck for a AAA open world game). The profit, as of 2016, was $210 million on that game. Probably more now. It shipped 6 million units to start, not counting remasters and re-packs which cost nothing to make. Go to their website, go to games. They don't even list MGS survive. They have no other major releases in development for 2018 despite sitting on a goldmine of IPs. MGS Survive is a project purely to spite Kojima, which is hilarious if you think about it.

Konami basically forced out Kojima because they did not want to make games anymore and are spiteful to the level of autistic children. They didn't 'lose' Kojima. They gave him his own division and made life working there a living nightmare so he'd eventually quit. They gave him a project, let him work on it with people he loved, then basically ERASED IT FROM THE WORLD for no other reason than spite. Another company took that hype and sold 10 million units off it with RE 7. This is not a competent, logical company.

 

[Ruin]

Doesn't shock me to hear that they're spiteful manchildren. I heard after Kojima's firing they basically went out of their way to ensure that everyone who worked for Kojima studies was essentially blacklisted from the industry.

 

[Trilby]

This is absolutely true. They have said they are not a gaming company and are looking to retire all of their titles except for this one soccer game that normie dumbfucks buy because it makes so much money that even Konami cannot ignore it. MGS Survive was made solely to rub salt in Kojima's face. Its basically re-uses assets in an engine they already have. Its not like it cost them a lot of fucking work to make. As far as I know, the soccer game and this are the only games they have lined up. Maybe it'll sting, maybe it won't, but Sony has basically given Kojima a blank check and told him to go HAM. The fact that Konami still care is just more of how fucking stupid they are.

You also have to remember Konami are family owned, which is very rare for a corp these days. So it isn't like a corporate board can go, 'Hey, you're letting really expensive IPs die on the vine that everyone else is taking advantage of, lets do something about that'. Its more this one spiteful faggot going 'lol, let them die'. They apparently make a shit-ton of money through like gyms and gambling and shit. People know of Konami in Japan as more a gym and gambling company than a gaming one.

It's no different from the way Williams decided to get out of arcade games after the fiasco of their "Pinball 2000" project. More money to be had in casinos apparently.

Doesn't shock me to hear that they're spiteful manchildren. I heard after Kojima's firing they basically went out of their way to ensure that everyone who worked for Kojima studies was essentially blacklisted from the industry.

Must be a lot of bad blood in the gaming industry in Japan these days.

 

[BillionBisonBucks]

Speaking of Konami being spiteful and manipulative to a comedic level, did anyone else see colin moriarty explaining his experience?

 

[Adolf Von Merkel]

Konami is not smart and fucking lol at people putting more blame on Kojima than them. This is a Konami, to simply fuck with Kojima, REMOVED Silent Hills from the PS4 download store so no one could ever download it again, in addition to cancelling it. And cancelling a game with massive hype and desire which Capcom had some moment of fucking clarity and capitalized on it with RE 7, making massive amounts of money. They were so spiteful, they wouldn't even let the guy attend a Doritos sponsored event that doesn't matter at the end of the day but bought them a massive amount of hate for no reason but spiting Kojima. And you're telling me that they're worse than some artist who has a big of ego (IE: All of them)? Fucking lol. Konami is egotistical to the point of being an autistic teenage re,tarded eating a tide-pod and drowning it with a cool glass of bleach. To blame Kojima more than Konami is really fucking stupid and being obviously contrarian. Konami in no way, shape or form would have ever let Kojima finish the game he wanted, even if it was for a dollar fifty.

This isn't Electronic Arts level, this is autistic re,tard level. Also, all signs point to Konami not putting up with any more budget, leaving it unfinished. Who could afford more than the 80 million it was made for. Its not like Kojima was blowing a 200 million dollar budget here. Konami made the game unfinished by a known quantity for 80 million, and if you hire the guy you know what he's like. They gave him his own division to fuck around with and then suddenly, 'oh sorry, these polaks made a game for $85 million and its like the best game ever. we're not giving you another dime lol'.

Also, 'Act 3' wasn't even the ending, but some additional mission that got cut. Which Kojima does all the fucking time. He's done this since MGS 1 (cutting large swathes of things), its just that he had a terrible relationship with Konami this time.

It was made unfinished by spite-fucking from Konami and Kojima throwing his name on every chapter was spite-fucking back. MGS V is basically the child of a messy divorce, which is unfortunate. Konami is more than comically evil, its an inept, re.tarded child and has been for a very long time.

Its fucked up every good series it has and has had other companies to replicate the potential of the IPs it owns, making them tons of money. I see no reason to buy a mildly OK zombie co-op game to support what is essentially an autistic screaming child playing in its own shit.

No idea if it's true or not but I heard Konami wants to kill it's gaming division entirely so they can focus solely on scamming nip shekels from retirees via pachinko.

This is absolutely true. They have said they are not a gaming company and are looking to retire all of their titles except for this one soccer game that normie dumbfucks buy because it makes so much money that even Konami cannot ignore it. MGS Survive was made solely to rub salt in Kojima's face. Its basically re-uses assets in an engine they already have. Its not like it cost them a lot of fucking work to make. As far as I know, the soccer game and this are the only games they have lined up. Maybe it'll sting, maybe it won't, but Sony has basically given Kojima a blank check and told him to go HAM. The fact that Konami still care is just more of how fucking stupid they are.

You also have to remember Konami are family owned, which is very rare for a corp these days. So it isn't like a corporate board can go, 'Hey, you're letting really expensive IPs die on the vine that everyone else is taking advantage of, lets do something about that'. Its more this one spiteful faggot going 'lol, let them die'. They apparently make a shit-ton of money through like gyms and gambling and shit. People know of Konami in Japan as more a gym and gambling company than a gaming one.

The thing isn't 'Who have the fault' , is what is happening after that.
The new Kojima game can be shit but he is doing something and the game will sell well and help Sony to sell even more PS4.
Konami is acting like they thing they will being hated no matter what they'll doing and is better not doing nothing, only look at them, they're using the fox engine with the Pro evolution soccer and MG survive and nothing more, they barely get talked about Survive, people talk more about they new Overkill with the walking dead setting, the new CoD and other multiplayer games than Metal Gear Survive.
They need to fire the guy who do the marketing...

It's more of a fact than a theory at this point. Personally, I wouldn't say that they "want" to kill their gaming projects but more like it's becoming increasingly difficult to keep it going. Game budgets (especially at the level of MGS titles) are becoming on par with Hollywood productions (and rising, which is why we see so many microtransactions nowadays, on top of AAA prices). They also lost Kojima who was the main guy there behind gaming and are now working at a loss against fans who feel betrayed.

It's not easy making games and maybe they just weren't making enough money out of it to continue working on them. Sure, MGS always sells - but does it sell enough to offset the huge production costs? Also how risky is it to put so much work ($$$) into a game and risk it being a flop? I remember even MGSV getting some criticism for its second half feeling less than polished or whatever (didn't actually play it though). Maybe they felt it wasn't a reliable market anymore.

They still have talented persons who worked with Kojima in the MG saga but they're incompetent and don't use them(people like the MG accid director and I remember Kojima wanting him to be the guy who continue Metal Gear but he disappeared after doing a bad game).
They still can delegated and/or publish games to third party : Paradox and the guys of this war of mine do that. Square Enix do that.
Go to USA and say " Hey, I will give you the licence to make a Silent hill/Metal Gear game and use the fox engine but the most of the money is for us" and most of the studios would say yes.
Fucking Capcom after trolling megaman and classic Ressident Evil fan base for years, they knew the stupid shit they were doing and is making a Megaman 11 after doing the RE7.
And when Capcom is better than you , you need to think about that.

 

[RavenZX13]

MG survive is but another nail in their coffin in the eyes of many former fans. Theres no reason it should exist except to spite kojima.

Thing is, kojima dont give a shit anymore. Why should he? His studio is hired by sony, who gave them the bank. He free to do whatever the fuck he wants.

If konami really wanna claim they no longer a gaming company, sell the IPs. Theres enough companies out there willing to buy them. Let them go. Stop the petty shit.

To quote a character from Zone of The Enders 2, a game i sorely miss...

To Konami : "you make me sick"

 

[Secret Asshole]

They won't do the licensing thing because they hate Kojima and everyone who likes him. Konami isn't a company, it's a rich moviebob. I am not even fucking kidding. Konami is Moviebob who has money and power. IE: An autistic manchild with a reading level that is sub 8th grade.

Like moviebob, Konami won't give 'them' (In this case, fans of any of their franchises) a single thing. Hence why they won't even license them or sell them or do a deal that gives them casino/gambling/sexrobotwhateeverelsekonamidoes rights. Even if it is to their detriment, which it most certainly is. It makes a ton of sense to dangle MGS/Silent Hill rights to Sony for an exorbitant sum but they will never do it. The fact that fucking Capcom looked at Konami and went 'Holy SHIT, what are we doing?' (I would like to remind you, Capcom went profitable after publishing one game and that was RE 7. Games are INCREDIBLY lucrative, especially when you have hype trains and you know, listen to your audience) goes to show you how fucking re.tarded Konami is.

This won't change anytime soon though, because like I mentioned they are family owned and can do whatever they want. Not to mention their main income hasn't been games for a long time. I imagine they will inevitably sell the IPs once gamers completely write them off and Kojima could give a shit about their spite fucking when he's basically blowing Sony money to hang out with actors he loves. Which makes it doubly dumb because Kojima is too busy having a love fest with Madds Milkens and the walking dead guy to even notice MGS survive. AND you have gamers spite fucking Konami right back by pre ordering his new game without even knowing what the fuck it is about just to give them the finger. It is a living embodiment of man child failure like moviebob.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

The only good thing Konami can do is sell their IPs to someone else. They can work out a deal to keep the rights for pachinko machines and what not. At this point, I can hardly see them as being a well run company at all.

 

[Red Hood]

I don't have a lot to say that anyone hasn't said. Konami made a lot of games I loved back in the day. I counted Castlevania, Silent Hill, and Metal Gear as favorites. And they fucked it up, but that was long after Castlevania and Silent Hill had gone into the toilet and only Kojima was making interesting (if batshit insane) games.

Rest forever, here in our hearts.

 

[KimCoppolaAficionado]

The only good thing Konami can do is sell their IPs to someone else. They can work out a deal to keep the rights for pachinko machines and what not. At this point, I can hardly see them as being a well run company at all.

Like @Secret Asshole said, they aren't a company; they're a family of dickheads. It wouldn't surprise me if they tried to keep a stranglehold on the MGS IPs even if they're bleeding money left and right just because they can't live with the idea of giving Kojima or his fans a victory, no matter how minor.

 

[The Demon]

I am just disappointed that they will never make another Goemon game.

guys, we found the super goemon youtuber

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

 

[Burned Man]

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I played the second beta and it seemed to be the exact same as the first one. Kind of disappointing to be honest.

There was no tutorial but there was a guide in the menus that explained all the mechanics and controls though. The lack of audio options sucked but I had a different problem where the sound went very quiet except for the music in one game and there was no way to fix it. The biggest issue was actually trying to find to get 4 people together without someone leaving mid-game.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

 

[Ruin]

Jesus fucking Christ that's the most aggressive DRM I've ever seen.

Anyone who buys this is a cuck and deserves to be laughed at.