"Too liberal" ex-Googler sues for wrongful dismissal

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SAN FRANCISCO — A former Google engineer is suing the Internet giant, claiming he was fired for pushing back against racism and sexism in the company's internal employee forums.

In the lawsuit filed in San Francisco Superior Court, Tim Chevalier, a site reliability engineer, says he was let go in November 2017 for defending women, people of color and LGBTQ employees from attacks and for championing transgender and disabled rights on Google's message boards.

Their personal information and comments expressed in internal company forums have been leaked to the public and published on far-right websites, leading to mistreatment by online vigilantes. What's more, they say they've been subjected to doxing on 4Chan and Kiwi Farms after screenshots were included in the 161-page lawsuit Damore filed in January.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech...ys-he-fired-fighting-racism-sexism/361452002/
http://archive.fo/2jMJH


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Tim Chevalier is the employee:
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https://twitter.com/fatneckbeardguy?lang=en
http://archive.fo/kLY1W

A public statement Tim made as well as a copy of the legal complaint are available on this post:
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/too-l...-wrongful-dismissal.39751/page-2#post-3083196
 
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We know that Damore wasn't alone in his feelings, there are other people at Google who agree with his beliefs. I'm willing to bet Chevalier getting canned has something to do with him declaring war on any and all such people and spending his work days hunting them down and assaulting them even though they are likely keeping completely silent.
 
This thread is great. So many questions in my mind. Why did Kristen choose such a boring name. Tim? I have nothing against the name personally but if you are going to troon out and obsess over identity politics so much it interferes with your work and costs you your job, you could at least shoot higher than ‘Tim’ for Christ’s sake.

Also somewhere in there she’s wearing an ‘America was always great’ hat. Bet you 25000 rubles you can find stuff prior to the rise of Trump where she is irritatingly declaring how awful America is.

Edit: so That Fong Dong dude is publicly supporting the party suing his current employer. That doesn’t seem right
 
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We know that Damore wasn't alone in his feelings, there are other people at Google who agree with his beliefs. I'm willing to bet Chevalier getting canned has something to do with him declaring war on any and all such people and spending his work days hunting them down and assaulting them even though they are likely keeping completely silent.
Is it quite possible that Google doesn't want anyone with extreme views on either end of the spectrum expressing those views on company time? Perish the thought!
 
I knew I smelled fong

I hope this troon is next.

Fong Dong doesn’t realize how precarious his position is. He doesn’t have manager or HR support because he’s toxic to corporate culture and a liability. They’re just waiting for the dust to settle before throwing him out the door.

His continued presence is a time bomb and their lawyers have certainly told them that.

After Damore's suit, even if it's settled or otherwise goes away, they cannot claim plausibly that they had no idea this dude was orchestrating workplace harassment to discriminate against people for their political views.

So his continued misconduct more or less ensures there will be future suits, possibly many of them.
 
His continued presence is a time bomb and their lawyers have certainly told them that.

After Damore's suit, even if it's settled or otherwise goes away, they cannot claim plausibly that they had no idea this dude was orchestrating workplace harassment to discriminate against people for their political views.

So his continued misconduct more or less ensures there will be future suits, possibly many of them.
I think you're right, and this tells me they are legitimately concerned that Damore has a case.
 
We know that Damore wasn't alone in his feelings, there are other people at Google who agree with his beliefs. I'm willing to bet Chevalier getting canned has something to do with him declaring war on any and all such people and spending his work days hunting them down and assaulting them even though they are likely keeping completely silent.

That's actually an interesting thought. Because Chevalier was actually one of the people that several people "asked" to get fired due to his comments about violence etc, he even got mentioned in the legal filing earlier so perhaps thought he was untouchable.

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Actually here's a rough timeline:
  • August 2016: Gets warned by first manager
  • September 2016: Gets warned again by first manager
  • March 2017: Gets warned by second manager
  • August 2017: Gets emailed by HR in August regarding his shitposting (he was on medical leave so process was probably slowed)
  • September 2017: Gets called by HR to discuss his shitposting
  • September 22, 2017: Gets fired by Google. The legal documents say "approximately 6 weeks" after their call, which would mean the call can be placed at about 10th August 2017.
  • This means Google fired Damore on August 7th and then also investigated Chevalier almost immediately or at the exact same time.
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That's actually an interesting thought. Because Chevalier was actually one of the people that several people "asked" to get fired due to his comments about violence etc, he even got mentioned in the legal filing earlier so perhaps thought he was untouchable.
Perhaps. I think it’s more google has always been left leaning and they just put up with his constant “Bash the fash Reeee” but one memo from a dude that’s been doing great for the company. And the CEO of GOOGLE HAS TO FLY BACK FROM HIS VACATION IN AFRICA because a dude was giving his opinion on how to make google more inclusive and not be “retard” in illegal quota highering practives.
 

I don't get the first screenshot, is Fong suggesting there be moles inside companies that leak internal company news and reports to the public? Fong doesn't seem to realize that a city is a public entity, and part of the government, which is beholden to constitutional things, while a company isn't and therefore can have privacy.

That's actually an interesting thought. Because Chevalier was actually one of the people that several people "asked" to get fired due to his comments about violence etc, he even got mentioned in the legal filing earlier so perhaps thought he was untouchable.

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Actually here's a rough timeline:
  • August 2016: Gets warned by first manager
  • September 2016: Gets warned again by first manager
  • March 2017: Gets warned by second manager
  • August 2017: Gets emailed by HR in August regarding his shitposting (he was on medical leave so process was probably slowed)
  • September 2017: Gets called by HR to discuss his shitposting
  • September 22, 2017: Gets fired by Google. The legal documents say "approximately 6 weeks" after their call, which would mean the call can be placed at about 10th August 2017.
  • This means Google fired Damore on August 7th and then also investigated Chevalier almost immediately or at the exact same time.
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So it's possible that Google was browsing through Damore's stuff and stumbled upon Chev's politisperging and started raising red flags? That would be amazing. :story:
 
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I don't get the first screenshot, is Fong suggesting there be moles inside companies that leak internal company news and reports to the public?

yes he doesn't trust the company that pays him money, he wants to call out and shame people to get what he wants
 
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I don't get the first screenshot, is Fong suggesting there be moles inside companies that leak internal company news and reports to the public? Fong doesn't seem to realize that a city is a public entity, and part of the government, which is beholden to constitutional things, while a company isn't and therefore can have privacy.

Nah, its more like how the Universities, high schools and such have their own internal publications.

Even the US Navy has its own "journalists":
https://www.thebalance.com/journalist-navy-enlisted-rating-description-3345829

I can't remember exactly, but I did meet an enlisted "journalist" and they'd do things like publish internal newspapers/media for enlisted soldiers, I'm not sure how much free roam they'd have with being critical (feel free to correct me on that, again its been ages since I spoke to that person, but the existence of "journalists" in the army was interesting)

I'm not actually the biggest hater on Liz besides her attempts to try and bully VPS providers. However much people might disagree with their statements, from what I've seen Liz seems to at least be able to handle herself a bit better and is also "authorized" to speak publicly as a Google employee. Whereas Tim was not, which is also alluded to when one of his managers specifically told him that the right to speak about politics had to be "earned".

She also posted this article once which was quite interesting reading:
https://blog.coralproject.net/the-real-name-fallacy/

(the article basically dispells a lot of the claims that people using their "real names" online would somehow cut down on shitposting as well as a number of other things)

FB & Google are large enough to have their own police officers, so I don't actually think its that far out to have independent journalists within their ranks. It's surely a lot smarter for a qualified journalist to approach a lot of the problems being discussed than the people who currently are.

So don't get me wrong, Liz might wear a dog collar to work, Liz is also arguably an idiot for having cyberbullied a VPS provider using her company email address, but she does have some valid points and observations here and there (and no, I don't really read into stuff about employer discrimination etc because I don't find it interesting, I'm talking about other stuff).
 
I'm not actually the biggest hater on Liz besides her attempts to try and bully VPS providers. However much people might disagree with their statements, from what I've seen Liz seems to at least be able to handle herself a bit better and is also "authorized" to speak publicly as a Google employee. Whereas Tim was not, which is also alluded to when one of his managers specifically told him that the right to speak about politics had to be "earned".

I think Liz is worse. Without the courage to do this shit herself, she sends out dumb footsoldiers to get in trouble for the cause.
 
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@Null this case might be interesting for the legal subforum

The legal firm that is representing Tim is "Rudy Exelrod Zieff & Lowe LLP"

The lawyer in the case, David, "was honored as an “Attorney of the Year” by California Lawyer magazine for his “extraordinary achievement” in employment law" (source: http://apps.americanbar.org/labor/lel-annualcle/09/materials/data/papers/bios/Lowe.pdf)

They're also listed by the The Bar Association of San Francisco as being LGBT sensitive:
https://www.sfbar.org/jdc/diversity/diversity-programs/lgbt-contacts.aspx

Interesting cases:
 
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