DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell - General Discussion

[Faded]

The value of the condo is half of what he owes, so there's no way he can rent it out for the cost of mortgage plus extra. It might help with a little bit of money, but it isn't fixing his problem, which is the fact that he can't afford two mortgages.

Ok you'll be surprised at the value of rentals. They always go for way more than mortgage rates.
Secondly. Say in his Washington place. If it has 3 bedroom. He could turn it into what's known as a HMO. (House of multiple occupation)

Where you get each person to pay a tonne per month. So you're getting effectively instead of $60 for the house. Maybe $40 + 40 + 40.

Please don't do the DSP thing, where you go WRONG!
Anyway. I haven't done the research and math in his specific building block / area. So feel free to delete this post.

 

[Jerbear89]

Responded to the drgn tweet through twitter and got jezal's thoughts.

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every paypig should read that

 

[neger psykolog]

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Looks like Thursday IS a day off after all. WiPshits serve no reason with their schedules...

Btw Mrhuth posted a side by side on Twitter that was put in the other thread:

via mrhuth2 on Twitter (https://twitter.com/mrhuth2/status/968370235572146176/photo/1)

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/darks...n-february-26-2018.39938/page-17#post-3099179

TLDR: he just ate a Twitch suspension for begging for his taxes so no more fundraising event.

 

[James Smith]

Just rent the thing out ffs.
No idea how much he'd get per month though.

He's been told that, and he won't.

He's given three reasons

1. The only property management company that will do it is the one he dealt with when he lived there, and he didn't like that property management company. He's too swell of a guy to subject a tenant to the property management company.
2. He can't possibly take on the risk of a tenant fucking something up and costing him money and inconvenience. Phil "Business Degree" Burnell has zero risk tolerance.
3. It wouldn't make any money, at best it'd save him maybe $800 a month on the somewhere in the ballpark $1500 expenses. Fuck the fact that once he starts renting it out he can write that $700 a month loss on his taxes and pay less taxes. That would be book smart, not street smart.

 

[Pablo Birmingham]

Ok you'll be surprised at the value of rentals. They always go for way more than mortgage rates.
Secondly. Say in his Washington place. If it has 3 bedroom. He could turn it into what's known as a HMO. (House of multiple occupation)

Where you get each person to pay a tonne per month. So you're getting effectively instead of $60 for the house. Maybe $40 + 40 + 40.

Please don't do the DSP thing, where you go WRONG!
Anyway. I haven't done the research and math in his specific building block / area. So feel free to delete this post.

He won't get anything near mortgage for the CT condo, plain and simple.
He could take in renters in the Washington condo, but that just isn't going to happen.
Phil's best option is to get rid of the condo and the extra $1500/month, take the credit hit for 7 yrs on his already shitty credit, and have the whole thing be done.

 

[Plumbaby]

Btw Mrhuth posted a side by side on Twitter that was put in the other thread:

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/darks...n-february-26-2018.39938/page-17#post-3099179

TLDR: he just ate a Twitch suspension for begging for his taxes so no more fundraising event.

dsp not bothering to remove the blinking text cursor before taking a screenshot is probably one of the pettiest grievances he'll ever get from me but it's all i can see

 

[BoingBoingBoi]

https://thekingofhate.com/forums/topic/9-random-thoughts-40/?page=795
http://archive.fo/vrb8B

he's not bragging about the suspension being bullshit or getting the strike appealed so i think it's safe to say that he got a legit strike, was legitimately suspended, and will correct his behavior as a result---at least temporarily. I believe that his compulsion to e-beg and air out his dirty laundry publicly will prevail in the long run. (just look at how quickly the next beg-a-thon was scheduled after the previous one. he's hurting and he needs to manufacture "drives" to rile up his pigs, but he cant do that anymore.)

it will be interesting to see how his begging style will change.

 

[Ching_Chong]

he's not bragging about the suspension being bullshit or getting the strike appealed so i think it's safe to say that he got a legit strike, was legitimately suspended, and will correct his behavior as a result---at least temporarily. I believe that his compulsion to e-beg and air out his dirty laundry publicly will prevail in the long run. (just look at how quickly the next beg-a-thon was scheduled after the previous one. he's hurting and he needs to manufacture "drives" to rile up his pigs, but he cant do that anymore.)

it will be interesting to see how his begging style will change.

I'd say save that screenshot since it contains fundraising in it conpared to his schedule. Still didn't learn.

 

[Surly Muppet]

it will be interesting to see how his begging style will change.

It may be just be coincidental, but he only vaguely refers to being able to raise the money without making any mention of any 'fundraising' event. That might be his fall back plan, do the same shit, but vaguely. Instead of "Click on the ads" it'll be "Support he channel, if ya know what I mean!" just as he's done in the past. "We're going to have a special INTERACTIVE stream today to try and hit the cooking video goal. That's all. Nobody ever said it was for anything else. *SNORT* I'm just really distracted by my worries about my taxes, which is unrelated, but I thought you guys should know, okay?"

Curious thing in this though is that Phil says "I'm also supposed to be told what I owe for those back taxes"
This is after vehemently stating that you're never told what you owe. Semantics, he'll probably say that he just meant there is no printed bill to show, but he can't seem to keep this straight. Now this implies that there will actually be a specific figure that he will later probably deny knowing when pressed. I'd say it that this post could be a smoking gun later that he does know the number, but let's be ahnest, Tevin personally hacked DSP's forums to doctor the post and we're all gullible idiots.

 

[JamFlowMan]

he's not bragging about the suspension being bullshit or getting the strike appealed so i think it's safe to say that he got a legit strike, was legitimately suspended, and will correct his behavior as a result---at least temporarily. I believe that his compulsion to e-beg and air out his dirty laundry publicly will prevail in the long run. (just look at how quickly the next beg-a-thon was scheduled after the previous one. he's hurting and he needs to manufacture "drives" to rile up his pigs, but he cant do that anymore.)

it will be interesting to see how his begging style will change.

I think you see the new begging style in the last part of that post. "Oh boy guys I got a bill, really nervous about it, don't kno how i'll get the money, but I think things will work out *wink* *wink*" Vague and passive aggressive will be the new style, until he forgets and goes back to shaking a change cup in peoples faces.

Edit:Surly Muppet beat me by a second.

 

[chairgate]

I think you see the new begging style in the last part of that post. "Oh boy guys I got a bill, really nervous about it, don't kno how i'll get the money, but I think things will work out *wink* *wink*" Vague and passive aggressive will be the new style, until he forgets and goes back to shaking a change cup in peoples faces

that, and I think he will find a new game like pubg and be like "tonights stream is a ____ stream!"
you know, that game that a lot of people seem to donate and cheer and sub while playing, but that's a coincidence.

tho that level of subtly I'm not sure his fans will understand.

 

[BatChatillon]

At least twitch.tv reminded the King of Hate of his mortality.

No matter what caused the suspension, he can no longer walk around and claim immunity for his actions on twitch.tv . And he knows it, since he doesn't call bullshit on twitch's actions or made an Emergency video about it.

Maybe, just maybe, did someone from twitch.tv remember his behaviour before he left twitch for the first time to stream on youtube.

 

[neger psykolog]

I'm calling 3-6 months or less depending on how much Kat is able to contribute financially. I'm basing this on his inevitable inability to pay off his debt. Once he can't make payments necessary the dominoes are going to start falling.

The vast majority of people that seem to be interested in DSP only got into it because of the SoK. With the SoK dead and the weens slowly starting to disband its clear that a lot of the "hype" was purely based upon a lack of information (because Phil's content is spoken and not written).

Most of the "incidents" surrounding DSP seem to have been dramatically overstated and despite not being the best human being, he really does nothing that interesting. Most of its just run of the mill shit (like getting revenge on your ex).

Once you take away the SoK, Vidar, KG, TKOH and other "detractor" drama you get left with a fairly average letsplayer whose popularity is solely fueled by drama created by a crowd (newwave detractors) who try to interfere and "tou.ch the poop".

Every single drama has come and gone with almost no involvement from Phil (despite the usual prestream rants). He doesn't engage with any other streamers, so he's not even a part of the streaming "community". He has a tiny, rabid fanbase, many of whom have either stopped supporting him or moved on entirely.

Once you take away the "newwave detractors" you get an extremely boring letsplayer who gets drunk and goes on rants about other more successful letsplayers:
https://twitter.com/GoutSydePhil/status/967098649250619393

The only reason he ever got popular to begin with is because he was around very early on when YouTube first enabled monetization.

I'm gonna requote my post saying that Phil is only going to last 3-6 months.
Its obvious he's not paying off any of his debt/loans and only "just" getting by at this stage. He has barely any wiggle room and now with being officially unable to do begathons those dominos are going to start toppling soon.

 

[Blackadder2000]

I'm gonna requote my post saying that Phil is only going to last 3-6 months.
Its obvious he's not paying off any of his debt/loans and only "just" getting by at this stage. He has barely any wiggle room and now with being officially unable to do begathons those dominos are going to start toppling soon.

I don't think he's only getting by. Thing is, he loves living above his means, and his paypigs are allowing that. I think he lies he's barely holding up so his brain dead cultists throw monies at him. He whines he can't pay bills, gets that dough and laughs histerically at how stupid his followers are. He's shameless and unredeemable at this point. Thankfully he's also a narcissist with insane delusions, so eventually end will come, but I don't think it's anytime soon. I'm tired of how much shit he's getting away with, but I don't feel sorry for his fans. They both deserve each other.

 

[BoingBoingBoi]

It may be just be coincidental, but he only vaguely refers to being able to raise the money without making any mention of any 'fundraising' event. That might be his fall back plan, do the same shit, but vaguely. Instead of "Click on the ads" it'll be "Support he channel, if ya know what I mean!" just as he's done in the past. "We're going to have a special INTERACTIVE stream today to try and hit the cooking video goal. That's all. Nobody ever said it was for anything else. *SNORT* I'm just really distracted by my worries about my taxes, which is unrelated, but I thought you guys should know, okay?"

Curious thing in this though is that Phil says "I'm also supposed to be told what I owe for those back taxes"
This is after vehemently stating that you're never told what you owe. Semantics, he'll probably say that he just meant there is no printed bill to show, but he can't seem to keep this straight. Now this implies that there will actually be a specific figure that he will later probably deny knowing when pressed. I'd say it that this post could be a smoking gun later that he does know the number, but let's be ahnest, Tevin personally hacked DSP's forums to doctor the post and we're all gullible idiots.

I think you see the new begging style in the last part of that post. "Oh boy guys I got a bill, really nervous about it, don't kno how i'll get the money, but I think things will work out *wink* *wink*" Vague and passive aggressive will be the new style, until he forgets and goes back to shaking a change cup in peoples faces.

Edit:Surly Muppet beat me by a second.

I largely agree and want to add 2 things.

1) this level of care will be difficult for him to maintain in the long run. if he's fumbling around and trying to avoid saying incriminating stuff because twitch has told him explicitly what not to say, it's really just a matter of time before he slips up and starts indirectly asking for money in a way direct enough to get him in trouble.

2) he simply must ask for money because he has no other problems. he has no more "boogie man" like the SOK, no more personal problems, no health crisis, no relationship related sob story---really all of his problems are financial at this point, to which the only solution is giving him more money. he doesnt have much room to wiggle in terms of motivating "support" by sharing his problems, since the only motivator is his financial distress. Now though he cant ask directly for financial support like he has been, but he has to do a version of that.

the only other option is to stop focusing on pity dollars entirely and focus on rewarding his fans with special events, longer/better streams, different style content, or a return to patreon, all of which will require him working harder, and we all know he doesnt want to do that (he's still taking Thursday off! for fucks sake!)

 

[Ching_Chong]

Twitch doesn't suggest things that won't get you banned. All you get in that ban email is the rule you broke and if you want to appeal, you either win the appeal or you're permanently banned if you lose.

 

[neger psykolog]

Twitch doesn't suggest things that won't get you banned. All you get in that ban email is the rule you broke and if you want to appeal, you either win the appeal or you're permanently banned if you lose.

He has a partnership manager so his experience is probably different to most people receiving a suspension.

 

[JamFlowMan]

It was never really proven 100%, but wasn't their a time where it seemed like Twitch chewed out Phil for how he was soliciting bits? He came on a prestream and said he talked with Twitch, lied about how much they love him, and then went into a detailed explanation about what he can and can't do when asking for bits. He may have even said he approached them and asked about bits, but that doesn't seem like something Phil would do. Maybe someone like @EddyB43 can remember more about this or around when this occured because I have no idea when this happened.

 

[BoingBoingBoi]

It was never really proven 100%, but wasn't their a time where it seemed like Twitch chewed out Phil for how he was soliciting bits? He came on a prestream and said he talked with Twitch, lied about how much they love him, and then went into a detailed explanation about what he can and can't do when asking for bits. He may have even said he approached them and asked about bits, but that doesn't seem like something Phil would do. Maybe someone like @EddyB43 can remember more about this or around when this occured because I have no idea when this happened.

He explains what he thinks is or is not allowed re: bits in this video. oh man this video is hysterical listening to today. he's such a smug untouchable cunt here.

but the argument is fascinating. he claims that using or treating bits as currency in a business transaction on stream is not allowed. So he can't offer rewards for giving him bits. However, he can acknowledge the fact that giving him bits helps him out. So in short, he's saying he can't actually offer anything in exchange for bits, like better content, but he's convinced he can beg for them without any problems.

 

[neger psykolog]

I don't think he's only getting by. Thing is, he loves living above his means, and his paypigs are allowing that. I think he lies he's barely holding up so his brain dead cultists throw monies at him. He whines he can't pay bills, gets that dough and laughs histerically at how stupid his followers are. He's shameless and unredeemable at this point. Thankfully he's also a narcissist with insane delusions, so eventually end will come, but I don't think it's anytime soon. I'm tired of how much shit he's getting away with, but I don't feel sorry for his fans. They both deserve each other.

He's not "well off" or "rich". Certainly he's living well above his means, but its not really "living" when you're scraping by day to day in the face of massive, unsustainable debt payments. He just got cucked by his new girlfriend because she was able to afford a new PS4 pro and he wasn't.

A lot of the "detractors" seem woefully out of touch with what "well off" means and interpret things like Phil saying he has a few thousand dollars as meaning he is rich. I really, really doubt that he is. And I say that taking into account the wanton surprise that he landed a new girlfriend (which was never really surprising, even before the escort saga) and people somehow being unaware that giving boxes full of paperwork to an accountant will mean you get slapped with a giant fucking bill.

There's no amount of ebegging that will put him ahead of paying off two houses, a car and multiple credit cards.

He has been able to scrape by for a miraculous amount of time but its coming to an end. The majority of his chief paypigs have all left (even goldencolts) for a variety of reasons and while I agree he is manipulative to some extent its coming to the time where his problems are increasingly becoming "his problems".

Phil has never had an "end game" in play with this begging, he's just trying to get by and stave off his bank payments for another few months. He simply shows no signs of being able to plan ahead to begin with to concoct such an elaborate scam (if he were scamming I'd at least hope his second property was actually worth money and not located in some ghetto).

He has a huge inability to even schedule his gaming so that it matches up with "hype" which means he never even makes a decent profit. There is no being "well off" when you wake up and go to sleep every day of your life knowing you have a massive amount of debt you will never be able to pay off.

All this is, is a middle-aged man continuing his "plan b" after getting fired from work many years ago. It should've never lasted this long and when it does end, which I think will be rather soon, he'll probably end up being a lot happier.