Greta Gustava Martela / Kjel Anderson & Nina Chaubal / Niraj Chaubal - Stole $350k+ from Trans Lifeline, kill count of 2+ from negligence, Founders of Sisterwood/La Zorra.

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"Passing the torch and not ending this battle"
Well, you can't end something you never started.

 

[Fervent Champion]

When I see of the support these 2 morons get I can't help but wonder if ratking members are just that self absorbed or that stupid. Can they not see a weed farm and coffee shop are not things you can just put in the middle of the desert or do they just not care.

Either way I hope they actually keep up with the Sisterwood Saga .

 

[keksz]

It's all about securing their place in the "community". Everyone licks each other's balls and that makes you "in". Someone wants to grow vegetables in the desert? Lick they balls. A minor wants to take hormones illegally? Pat him in the back a few hundred times. Someone's hurting? Like and share.

The reason I put "community" in quotes is because it's not much of a community if they're going to happily support you in making terrible decisions and then be nowhere to be found once you actually need help (much like TLL). It's all about virtue-signaling, it's the ebb and flow of the interactions that matter, not any of the content.

Now, if you wanna ask what do people get out of it, I sure want to know too. Apparently it's just a sense of belonging and baseless self-gratification (patting yourself in the back for patting others in the back because that's what everyone else is doing). I wouldn't be surprised, they're all narcissists.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

Would you mind giving the people like me who don't follow those threads an overview of what makes you think so?

Labelle’s had a few call-outs, including one long rant about what a shitty human being he is. Charm engaged in yet another of his ThatHappened attention-grabbing antics at an airport and the general consensus was “you fucking tard,” not “you poor brave victim.” What caught my eye was that these came from other trans people.

It might be nothing, but combined with Grina getting the boot, I do wonder.

When I see of the support these 2 morons get I can't help but wonder if ratking members are just that self absorbed or that stupid. Can they not see a weed farm and coffee shop are not things you can just put in the middle of the desert or do they just not care.

Either way I hope they actually keep up with the Sisterwood Saga .

If they were practically minded, they wouldn’t be in the Rat King. They’re all expecting a non-stop off-grid drug-fuelled orgy where no one has to work and they can rape whoever they like, and none of them have stopped to wonder how this is going to happen. That’s for someone else to worry about. Thinking gives you wrinkles.

 

[AngeloTheWizard]

When I see of the support these 2 morons get I can't help but wonder if ratking members are just that self absorbed or that stupid. Can they not see a weed farm and coffee shop are not things you can just put in the middle of the desert or do they just not care.

Either way I hope they actually keep up with the Sisterwood Saga .

It's not they don't care, it's that they don't know. I work in IT, and your average customer doesn't know that when they type into Google, it bounces out through like 10 different stops and then gets what you want from Google, all they know is when they type "penguin" into the search bar, it pops up before you can blink.

Same here. These people don't understand the water lines, power lines, and a thousand other little things that all go into your average fucking Starbucks. It's all taken for granted. Not just by the Rat King, by a lot of people. A lot of it is just ignorance, but in Greta's case it's full on not doing the research.

 

[Splendid]

I bet that’s a real problem for TLL, not the not answering the phones part, but people calling for “help” not because they are on the verge of killing themselves.

Giving the population in question, particularly from the ratking subpopulation, id say people calling because they got evicted or just want someone to whine too makes up at least as much of their calls as people with razor blades at their wrists.

Thinking of people like Fire, who seemed to try to call TLL all the time to be his on-call therapist until he got sick of never getting an answer.

I believe that their training information stated that not all callers would be suicidal, and many would just need someone to talk to. However, I believe that this is actually normal for a suicide hotline. It's better to catch depressed people early after all.

 

[Henry Wyatt]

hopefully someone who actually cares will take over

 

[repentance]

I believe that their training information stated that not all callers would be suicidal, and many would just need someone to talk to. However, I believe that this is actually normal for a suicide hotline. Its better to catch depressed people early after all.

They also stopped marketing it as exclusively a suicide line early on.

 

[Caesare]

When I see of the support these 2 morons get I can't help but wonder if ratking members are just that self absorbed or that stupid. Can they not see a weed farm and coffee shop are not things you can just put in the middle of the desert or do they just not care.

Same here. These people don't understand the water lines, power lines, and a thousand other little things that all go into your average fucking Starbucks. It's all taken for granted. Not just by the Rat King, by a lot of people. A lot of it is just ignorance, but in Greta's case it's full on not doing the research.

And the stuff that you encounter in your work in IT is bush league compared to the delusions they have. Just building a functional structure requires multiple crews of workers who specialize in completely different disciplines. You have framers, concrete guys, electricians, plumbers, alarms technicians, etc. etc. and that's just for a building in the middle of a city, with existing infrastructure. Doing this in the middle of nowhere, with zero infrastructure, shitty desert land, and limited funds would be a herculean task for contractors working under the state. For a mentally challenged gaggle of trannies, it's beyond impossible.

So to answer @Carolus_Rex question, like Angelo said, it's a mixture of laziness, ignorance, living an extremely limited and sheltered life, and being utterly delusional.

 

[Cheeseburger Picnic]

We know whats next.
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Confirmed for kicked out by the Board of Directors rather than "onto the next scam". They wouldn't have ditched their only steady source of cashflow and asspats without having something lined up, especially in the midst of trying to fund their tranny cult compound project.

 

[AnOminous]

By more profitable crop, I mean something like certain cacti, poppies, or maybe just a drug lab.

I don't think we're going to see a troon version of Breaking Bad out there.

 

[repentance]

And the stuff that you encounter in your work in IT is bush league compared to the delusions they have. Just building a functional structure requires multiple crews of workers who specialize in completely different disciplines. You have framers, concrete guys, electricians, plumbers, alarms technicians, etc. etc. and that's just for a building in the middle of a city, with existing infrastructure. Doing this in the middle of nowhere, with zero infrastructure, shitty desert land, and limited funds would be a herculean task for contractors working under the state. For a mentally challenged gaggle of trannies, it's beyond impossible.

People who have no idea what they're doing owner build all the time. The main disadvantage is that it will take you much longer and end up costing more than using contractors (because you'll need to fix up stuff you got wrong). I would guess that there's little or no enforcement of building codes where they're located and that they plan to ignore them anyway.

Nina's plans are pretty naive. If they plan to use recycled materials, then they need to think about how they're going to get enough of them and how they're going to get them to their property. It can be done, but it's not going to happen in a timely manner and it's not going to be cheap.

Making anything they build comfortable enough for people to actually want to go live at Sisterwood is another matter. A shanty in the city would be more appealing to most people than a shanty in the desert.

 

[Marvin]

"so long and thanks for all the fish money"

They also stopped marketing it as exclusively a suicide line early on.

They refrained from using the word "suicide" in posts when they specifically had the accreditation question in mind.

But whenever they posted more casually about the project, they continued to fuck up and refer to it as a suicide hotline.

They weren't very consistent at it.

 

[AnOminous]

Nina's plans are pretty naive. If they plan to use recycled materials, then they need to think about how they're going to get enough of them and how they're going to get them to their property. It can be done, but it's not going to happen in a timely manner and it's not going to be cheap.

Greta's idiocy will ensure disaster. It is not that Greta is even completely incompetent, actually having some mechanical skills, but also being incredibly arrogant to the point of being completely incapable of taking advice. Greta will insist on doing at least one vitally necessary thing in a half-assed, fucked-up way.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

Greta's idiocy will ensure disaster. It is not that Greta is even completely incompetent, actually having some mechanical skills, but also being incredibly arrogant to the point of being completely incapable of taking advice. Greta will insist on doing at least one vitally necessary thing in a half-assed, fucked-up way.

Personally I'm quite excited for the inevitable spectacle that will be Waco 2: The Troonening.

 

[Tragi-Chan]

Personally I'm quite excited for the inevitable spectacle that will be Waco 2: The Troonening.

That would be fun, but I suspect La Zorra is going to collapse at this point. Greta seemingly forgot about this long-term incredibly important project that she's been planning for years, and when it was raised to Nina, her response had a feeling of "oh yeah... that thing."

I think either funds were coming from TLL or, assuming Troontown and the booting of the Stinkditch Sisters were unrelated, Greta ragequit when things didn't come together right away. My money's on the former - the plot of land cost thousands, the stuff they got out there must have cost thousands more, and I don't believe either of them have the long-term planning skills necessary to save the money up - especially given that buying the land appears to have been a spur-of-the-moment thing.

 

[Charles Morgenstern]

Does anyone know if non-compete agreements are common when leaving these sorts of (scam) organizations?

 

[repentance]

I think either funds were coming from TLL or, assuming Troontown and the booting of the Stinkditch Sisters were unrelated, Greta ragequit when things didn't come together right away. My money's on the former - the plot of land cost thousands, the stuff they got out there must have cost thousands more, and I don't believe either of them have the long-term planning skills necessary to save the money up - especially given that buying the land appears to have been a spur-of-the-moment thing.

Highgarden is the wild card here. When they first started talking about the land, Nina made a comment that they were "already in the cannabis business". It's what made me check whether they were involved with Highgarden.

We really have very little idea of what their non-TLL sources of income may have been over the last 6-12 months. The fact that they paid for the land over a few months suggests they have limited financial reserves themselves, but that doesn't mean other people haven't contributed money (not that they've spent a lot to date). Even within the Sisterwood Working Group, there's an inner circle and I suspect they're the only ones who know exactly what's going on and the relationships between the various entities.

Does anyone know if non-compete agreements are common when leaving these sorts of (scam) organizations?

No. No founder would write a non-compete clause into their employment contracts anyway.

Sometimes when companies change hands and there's a substantial exit payment involved there's an agreement that founders won't operate in the same industry for an agreed period, but that's not really relevant to charities. And Highgarden is in no way in the same industry, anyway (we don't yet know whether Sisterwood will be a separate legal entity).

 

[Lesbian Sleepover]

@repentance has a great point above here .we don't know what other income(s) they may have had from other things they stay hush hush on .

On another topic, they should fundraise Sisterwood via pop up events focused on trans and trans allies .

I would love to travel to the desert and get some dessert. A coffee. A mug. But it will be funded all fudged up .

 

[Jaimas]

Nice to see that Nina and Greta are continuing their campaign to prove Aristotle right.