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Even if YouTube was perfect and dsp popped up whenever someone searched a game, would people continue to watch his videos where he either says nothing, makes unfunny jokes, says look at that, calls everyone an idiot, and complains about his finances?
The problem isn't YouTube. The problem is Phil sucks as an entertainer. If he was any good at what he was attempting to do the thousand people who watch part 1 of his videos would watch more. Instead you have 1k views on part 1 and 60 views halfway through his series.
The YouTube algorithms are out of his control. This is a case where "nothing I could do" is actually true. Instead Phil should focus on improving his content to retain viewers he already has.
Videos don't just magically go viral. If Phil made something that was entertaining I'm sure people would share it with their friends who would share it again etc. Phil just absolutely refuses to actually put any effort into his "job".
The problem isn't YouTube. The problem is Phil sucks as an entertainer. If he was any good at what he was attempting to do the thousand people who watch part 1 of his videos would watch more. Instead you have 1k views on part 1 and 60 views halfway through his series.
The YouTube algorithms are out of his control. This is a case where "nothing I could do" is actually true. Instead Phil should focus on improving his content to retain viewers he already has.
Videos don't just magically go viral. If Phil made something that was entertaining I'm sure people would share it with their friends who would share it again etc. Phil just absolutely refuses to actually put any effort into his "job".
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He's changed superficial things, and acts like it's some major revolutionary thing. Facecam springs to mind, which could have been a big change that he used in a more interesting way, however like 80% of the time he's just sat there with that dumb expression on his face with his head at a jaunty angle so he can look at chat. Might as well be a fucking low quality jpg for all the interactivity that brings.
You are right though because whether he's streaming, Youtube, Blip, whatever platform he's on, the principle underpinning Phil's content has always been quantity over quality in order to game the system rather than entertain his audience. He still shitposts videos constantly. The only thing that has really notably changed is the length of his prestreams which is something that actually makes his content fundamentally worse.
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RAW and UNEDITED content isn't the issue with phil...its that he uploads 20 videos of RAW and UNEDITED content every bloody day.
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He did pay someone to move in with him- maybe not as directly as a prostitute or a home worker like a maid or nurse, but she would or could not have spent her own money moving thousands of miles across the country or from another country just out of love. If she was willing to do it and it was important to her she would have spent time making it happen. Instead DSP just paid her, indirectly, to do it right now and she spent hundreds of dollars on a game console and games that could have been saved to move.
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Largely agree but this I disagree with. There definitely is something Phil could do, which is to keep tabs on the platform that his business is built on and be aware of changes as they happen (or even before in some cases) so he can adapt. You know, like a professional! Instead he just find out about changes from one of his fans, months after it's happened, then refuses to do anything about it anyway and just bitches. Phil likes to pretend Youtube algorithms are this mystical force that nobody can comprehend or predict, that change like the wind. Really that's the furthest thing from the truth, and it especially should be if your business model is partially built on Youtube.
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Especially since YouTube flat out states how to make money with their platform. Don't spam crap and engage your viewers! (And don't do Logan Paul things)
He's too fucking lazy and narcissistic to change.
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Wow listen to this dumb kid. You probably don't understand this, because you don't have a business degree and you've never run your own business: businesses aren't supposed to figure out how to make a profit in the environment they're in. Adults don't have that kind of luxury! You just have to do whatever and hope it works out!
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Quoted from the Phil Burnell school of the business darksyde text book I take it?
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One of the things that came up when looking at all his prestreams combined is that "business" is pretty much his favorite word. Not only does he love it, its one word that he consistently uses on a day to day basis:
(the yellow parts of that scroll bar are where the word shows up, so it shows up fucking everywhere)
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From a user perspective I have to say that the youtube algorithm is really good. It suggests really good videos related to what I see. I am sure if I started to watch boring 10 minutes let's plays that is raw and unedited. Phil would eventually show up in the related section. But who does that?
Youtube improved their algorithm so garbage content don't pollute the site. That is what have happened. If I was phil I would be happy he had an audience at all. His DSP gaming videos is terrible. It's a worse then bad channel. It's not enough hours in a day to watch a stream archive of mundane gameplay. Who is this appealing to at all? At least earlier you where allowed to comment on the videos. But he have disabled that as well.
If the evil algorithm is preventing him from reaching his demographics i really wonder who this appeals to if any. Do you honestly know anyone who would use hours watching this garbage. Even as a fan of phil those videos have no value what so ever. One thing is if it was a very narrative driven game, then maybe it would work as a visual novel or something. But him just playing games with no story and giving his reactions. Very few if any have any reason to watch that. He have even by his own admission gone from recording videos for youtube, to create streaming content.
He shouldn't even clutter up youtube with his content at all, if it isn't like a Vlog or something that has any value. He could just leave the stream up on twitch, that way at least you could follow the chat. But then the evil book smart people at google won't pay him anything for uploading raw videos with zero entertainment value. What a evil corporation paying him money to upload crap to their site. Why don't he go somewhere, where they appreciate real unedited raw content. I am sure there are plenty of other oportunities for a miracle man who can film himself playing videogames.
Youtube improved their algorithm so garbage content don't pollute the site. That is what have happened. If I was phil I would be happy he had an audience at all. His DSP gaming videos is terrible. It's a worse then bad channel. It's not enough hours in a day to watch a stream archive of mundane gameplay. Who is this appealing to at all? At least earlier you where allowed to comment on the videos. But he have disabled that as well.
If the evil algorithm is preventing him from reaching his demographics i really wonder who this appeals to if any. Do you honestly know anyone who would use hours watching this garbage. Even as a fan of phil those videos have no value what so ever. One thing is if it was a very narrative driven game, then maybe it would work as a visual novel or something. But him just playing games with no story and giving his reactions. Very few if any have any reason to watch that. He have even by his own admission gone from recording videos for youtube, to create streaming content.
He shouldn't even clutter up youtube with his content at all, if it isn't like a Vlog or something that has any value. He could just leave the stream up on twitch, that way at least you could follow the chat. But then the evil book smart people at google won't pay him anything for uploading raw videos with zero entertainment value. What a evil corporation paying him money to upload crap to their site. Why don't he go somewhere, where they appreciate real unedited raw content. I am sure there are plenty of other oportunities for a miracle man who can film himself playing videogames.
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Im watching his pubg videos and he just said he would be a great consultant cause he "played a bagilion games and probably know one or two things about games". He also said that being a playtester is not paying well so he does not want that.
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Seems like Phil is trying to make the lie of knowing anything about business by repeating one word over and over again. We'd expect nothing less from him
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It's not a lie. He probably does know 2 things about games.
1. You hit start to begin playing.
2. You delete them when you can't figure out how to play.
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Agreed. What Phil and a lot of "content creators" don't seem to understand is that YouTube and Google are the people that took a gamble with something that wasn't profitable. Hosting video is expensive. Especially back in the day when Phil first started, hosting video was really, really fucking expensive.
YouTube isn't even actually profitable to this very day. Every day they run that website, they basically throw money out the window and fuck around with algorithms to see what works. A big part of that has been experimenting with monetization and seeing how advertising might work for independent content creators, which is why in the early days YouTube was a massively profitable enterprise for someone to upload their videos on.
If you look historically at almost any similar project and the concept of monetization the early days are when people make easy money, but once the marketplace fills up with shit and people trying to abuse the system by uploading 10 times a day, that's when the money starts drying up. Advertisers don't want to have their shit on every fuckers videos when they can pick more premium content to focus on.
One of the big reasons, as you said, behind their algorithms isn't just advertisers or search results but its making sure that a user on their website gets a nice, friendly experience. Most people who subscribe to a channel will probably not watch every single video uploaded (on average) and if you allow people who upload 40 times a day to spam their inboxes, they won't get angry at the uploader, they'll get angry at the website.
To give an idea of this, I have email addresses from ages ago which are signed up on various services. I no longer use any of these email addresses, but I still get emails (and I have to check them regularly for "important" accounts).
This is what YouTube sends me:
The emails are annoying as fuck but do you think I get frustrated at the person whose channel I subscribed to? No, I get frustrated at Google for sending me an email every fucking week. I'd sooner stop using YouTube than stop subscribing to any channel.
I've had more than 200 of those fucking emails, but because they're sent once a week I'm not frustrated enough to actually go and turn them off. Imagine if YouTube sent me an email or notification every fucking time DSP uploaded a video? I'd probably delete my account entirely.
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I know right? He don't even pay his webmaster, and thinks it's no problem hosting full HD videos and paying the person that uploaded it. Hell I would challenge him to just host his own god damn content. That way he could get all the revenue without any people book smart people getting between him and his advertisers, and demographics.
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Hosting HD video is one thing, actually getting advertisers to even consider you and managing to keep a good relationship with them is a completely different thing, and its even more difficult than managing servers.
No advertiser or sponsor would probably ever go near DSP because of not only his reputation but also the way he's acted around sponsors and people in the past. He can't even avoid talking shit about YouTube who is his main source of income.
Someone like Linustechtips is someone who knows well about building an audience and also diversifying from YouTube income:
You can easily see how much importance he puts on stuff like "building trust". They review stuff and DSP plays games but its still a very important concept that DSP never pays attention to.
DSP couldn't even play Mario Sunshine on schedule and came up with a bunch of excuses about why he didn't want to. DSP can't even manage his forums to keep his own moderators around or even users. He's also had a whole bunch of suspicion around his tax situation and whether or not he spent money on moving his girlfriend in.
If DSP can't even commit to playing games after being paid to do so, can't even manage moderators or stop slapfights from happening and can't even address valid criticism over his fundraising then him going broke has little to do with YouTube and more to do with him not giving a shit about building trust with his audience.
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