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Edit: Not sure why that person, as shared by @drgnkiller , is saying that the CT tax stuff is a lie. Phil could easily owe property tax, back state taxes, and federal taxes. The only real question is the amount, imo. The approximately $2k owed does match up nicely, though.
It's property tax. He earned 4000 dollars in one day last year. Why would this have anything to do with his tax situation. The only way he didn't manage to pay that would have been if he have a serious drug addiction or something. I am sure if you are autistic enough you can just use Eddies numbers and find out what he really owes in taxes. What is weird is that he complains about every bill he have to pay, be it utilities, or whatever. But as far as I know never mention property tax as a expense.
 
HIs property tax bill seems to get brought up in here every 6 months and it is such a none issue. It would be an exceptionally rare situation for this not be rolled up into his monthly mortgage payment, most loans require that it is included in the month payments. His bank holds the money in an escrow account and pays this on his behalf, Phil is not writing a check, at best he gets a notice once a year just letting him know how much property tax he paid or if it has changed from the previous year. Making this into an issue only makes Phil look correct when he says all his detractors are children who do not understand how the world works. If you think this is an issue you in fact do not understand how home ownership works in the US.

One question that needs to be sorted. He specifically names the 17th and 30th of April as days when "big tax payments" are due. The 17th is almost certainly federal taxes (both 2017 that he still owes, and 1st quarterly of 2018, I assume). But what else would be on the 30th?
 
Making this into an issue only makes Phil look correct when he says all his detractors are children who do not understand how the world works. If you think this is an issue you in fact do not understand how home ownership works in the US.

I agree that's partially the case, but I don't think any of us would be here if Phil did things the normal way like everyone else. We just saw he misspelled his name on at least two government forms involving his finances :/

Does anyone have any opinions on whether the "mr. stupid1 leaks" have any bearing on this kind of thing. I haven't heard a mention of it since it happened. His claiming to have an office in Seattle with engineers on staff or whatever it was would lend credibility to his weaseling on these government forms.
 
It's property tax. He earned 4000 dollars in one day last year. Why would this have anything to do with his tax situation. The only way he didn't manage to pay that would have been if he have a serious drug addiction or something. I am sure if you are autistic enough you can just use Eddies numbers and find out what he really owes in taxes. What is weird is that he complains about every bill he have to pay, be it utilities, or whatever. But as far as I know never mention property tax as a expense.

I wonder if you can do a bicheer to him.

But specifically ask him to make it go "straight to the bills".
And NOT to the taxes.

He's seemingly forgotten all about those bills. As if he can now easily pay them.

But before.... he had no money to pay them.... hmmm




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Are DSP's expenses too high because he moved without realising about the taxes?

i.e he should easily be putting a percentage away for savings and also for taxes.
But if he mis-calculated it all. Then he has no money to do this.

I don't get it.
 
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It's property tax. He earned 4000 dollars in one day last year. Why would this have anything to do with his tax situation. The only way he didn't manage to pay that would have been if he have a serious drug addiction or something. I am sure if you are autistic enough you can just use Eddies numbers and find out what he really owes in taxes. What is weird is that he complains about every bill he have to pay, be it utilities, or whatever. But as far as I know never mention property tax as a expense.

If he doesn't have property tax built into his mortgage payment, it would mean that he needs to come up with $2k by the end of the month. He's not exactly smart with money. Also, you can get a decent estimate on his money with the few times he's alluded to how much he owes. He's said before thousands of dollars, but not more than $10k. So take $5k and assume the highest possible tax rate for WA state (1.5%), which would give the lowest possible income. $5000 / 0.015 = $333,333. He owed tax from half of 2014, 2015, and 2016. So he's got somewhere in the neighborhood of $100k annual income. Even if you want to include a fudge factor of $10-20k, he's still making $80-90k annual.

I've also done a ballpark estimate on his annual expenses elsewhere (probably the Savings and Loan thread), and it comes out to like $7k a month. And that's before food, unexpected expenses, and game purchases.

He could very easily be in financial trouble or on the brink of it, but I don't buy that it's as bad as he claims.
 
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From Drgnkiller twitter, apparently he received it from a dsp roleplay account. I'm very skeptical especially with the mispelled name.

I honestly have no idea how to insert media the way everyone else does like nothingicando's post.

Correct me if I'm wrong, it looks like he paid nothing on his taxes
 
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If he doesn't have property tax built into his mortgage payment, it would mean that he needs to come up with $2k by the end of the month. He's not exactly smart with money. Also, you can get a decent estimate on his money with the few times he's alluded to how much he owes. He's said before thousands of dollars, but not more than $10k. So take $5k and assume the highest possible tax rate for WA state (1.5%), which would give the lowest possible income. $5000 / 0.015 = $333,333. He owed tax from half of 2014, 2015, and 2016. So he's got somewhere in the neighborhood of $100k annual income. Even if you want to include a fudge factor of $10-20k, he's still making $80-90k annual.

I've also done a ballpark estimate on his annual expenses elsewhere (probably the Savings and Loan thread), and it comes out to like $7k a month. And that's before food, unexpected expenses, and game purchases.

He could very easily be in financial trouble or on the brink of it, but I don't buy that it's as bad as he claims.

I actually took a look at it too. I took his annual income to be like 60k since that rhymes well with about 5k a month. It would mean that he would get a total income tax on about 20-25 % a property tax on 2000$ for a 250k house. But only like 0,5% of his total revenue in business tax. From what I can find I don't know how he manage to inflate that number to whatever delusional amount he has. And If i don't read the numbers wrong that is a generous assessment. The business tax seem to be even lower then that.

If i where to be very honest. I don't think he has a tax problem at all. It would more likely be him wanting people to pay his creditcard debt. Or something like that.
 
So he thinks by mispelling his name he'll throw off those dratted detractors? Guess he was lying when he says he's okay with all his info being public and how he is open and ahnest about everything.
 
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I took his annual income to be like 60k since that rhymes well with about 5k a month.

He makes more than $5k a month. Look at @EddyB43 's number (you can find them on twitter easily). Phil, even without pushing hard on Twitch, would pull $3k-5k a month, according to what Eddy documented. Add in his patreon, when it was typically at around $1000-1200 a month. You're already at or above $5k income. Then you have to add in youtube income, which you could approximate assuming $1 CPM as a baseline. So usually around another $1500-2000. More if his CPM is higher. And keep in mind that the Twitch income is only what's visible/counted. So it represents a sort of minimum amount only.
 
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And that's why it says they aren't paid yet, the bank usually pulls the funds from your escrow and pays the property taxes at a set time twice a year.

This screenshot tells us nothing we didn't already know, and has nothing to do with the tax saga.
 
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One question that needs to be sorted. He specifically names the 17th and 30th of April as days when "big tax payments" are due. The 17th is almost certainly federal taxes (both 2017 that he still owes, and 1st quarterly of 2018, I assume). But what else would be on the 30th?

Federal is the 17th. First Quarter Business taxes are due by 4/30/18
 
One question that needs to be sorted. He specifically names the 17th and 30th of April as days when "big tax payments" are due. The 17th is almost certainly federal taxes (both 2017 that he still owes, and 1st quarterly of 2018, I assume). But what else would be on the 30th?

I believe he has said his B&O backtaxes for 2014-2016 are what he has to pay on the 30th, something about 'the state finally figured out what I owe (but still aren't telling him yet :|) and is due at the end of the month,' he should know what this amount is almost exactly though because he paid his 2017 B&O taxes in January (it's what he says the December beg-a-thon paid for with a few thousand left over) and knows what his rate is. He has referenced '3 big tax payments due this month', the 17th is the last possible day to pay his Federal Estimated Income Tax for Q1 and still have it be 'on time' https://www.irs.gov/faqs/estimated-tax/individuals/individuals-2 as the 15th is a Sunday & the 16th is 'Emancipation Day' (a Federal office holiday), then there's whatever his annual Federal Tax filing ends up being (that he is finding out today apparently), and this 'end of the month B&O backtaxes payment'.

I've also done a ballpark estimate on his annual expenses elsewhere (probably the Savings and Loan thread), and it comes out to like $7k a month. And that's before food, unexpected expenses, and game purchases.

He could very easily be in financial trouble or on the brink of it, but I don't buy that it's as bad as he claims.


Also, one thing I wondered about if I'm recalling, is that that monthly breakdown of his expenses also doesn't include any of the 'shitloads of interest' he is paying on multiple credit cards right?
 
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I still don’t think the money is for property taxes. I don’t know anyone who pays property taxes separately when they have a mortgage. It’s always included and put into an escrow account and taken out quarterly.

Just so everyone knows, there is at least one state that doesn't do that; only real property taxes are placed in escrow through the mortgage payment. But not the property taxes. Those are completely separate, and due in April. No idea what WA does, but in at least one state personal property tax has zero connection to to real property tax.
 
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Does anyone have any opinions on whether the "mr. stupid1 leaks" have any bearing on this kind of thing. I haven't heard a mention of it since it happened. His claiming to have an office in Seattle with engineers on staff or whatever it was would lend credibility to his weaseling on these government forms.

It wasn't actually Phil that made the claim about the engineers it was the person who had access to this Comcast account. It seems all the screenshots were taken down but this post summarized it all and the hacker was the person talking to support posting the screenshots of those interactions.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/darksydephil-theycallmedsp-phil-burnell.975/page-1464#post-2532609
 
It wasn't actually Phil that made the claim about the engineers it was the person who had access to this Comcast account. It seems all the screenshots were taken down but this post summarized it all and the hacker was the person talking to support posting the screenshots of those interactions.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/darksydephil-theycallmedsp-phil-burnell.975/page-1464#post-2532609

For anyone that may still want to see the pics that were taken down, Argent goes over them in this video (with many a cameo from posters in this thread): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhJPaJwWSQ8&index=15&list=PLKTT86UIQKq09C5vAmmggacH3Or1DiCD8.

//Taking everything with a grain of salt, as the video advises// At 23:06, Argent gets into DSP Enterprises, a "holding company to get loans" that also has "engineers that work for him". 27:00, Phil claims DSP Enterprises is located in an office building.

What I'm wondering is, is there enough "True & Honest" khantent to give weight to theories of finessing the system being tossed around on the current non-sense.

The Snort Burnell video Argent is looking at, which also has the pics deleted from Kiwi Farms:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgSM-atQsgw
 
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Ha, I just watched the prestream of Phil finaly being told what the "I prefer a penne" joke is about. Talks about how childish it is and how if you like those types of jokes then his stream probably isn't for you. You know, him being a mature streamer and everything.

Haha poop jokes

Haha chinky chang wang

Haha little girls in pain

Haha see how mature my humor is guys???
 
Also, one thing I wondered about if I'm recalling, is that that monthly breakdown of his expenses also doesn't include any of the 'shitloads of interest' he is paying on multiple credit cards right?

Having no idea what his interest rates and whatnot are, I took a stab at monthly minimum payments based on my personal credit card debt. I think I estimated $300 each for 4 different debts (to cover both credit cards and those business loans he's talked about). That $300 is similar to what I've had as a minimum payment on a credit line of more than $10k with an interest rate almost assuredly much better than Phil with his shit credit, so I figured it was reasonable, even if his actual debt on one of the credit cards or loans was lower than expected.
 
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Hello guys. I was thinking about a time when I had to look up info on a company in my city, and remembered that every business had to register and this information is all online. Sure enough this exists in Washington as well. I thought you guys would like to know that there is no business in Washington (that I saw) that was called "DSP Gaming" or anything of that nature. There does exist a few companies with "DSP" in the name, even one called "DSP Media", but none are owned by a Phil Burnell

https://secure.dor.wa.gov/gteunauth/_/#30

Link is there for anyone that wants to check.
 
Hello guys. I was thinking about a time when I had to look up info on a company in my city, and remembered that every business had to register and this information is all online. Sure enough this exists in Washington as well. I thought you guys would like to know that there is no business in Washington (that I saw) that was called "DSP Gaming" or anything of that nature. There does exist a few companies with "DSP" in the name, even one called "DSP Media", but none are owned by a Phil Burnell

https://secure.dor.wa.gov/gteunauth/_/#30

Link is there for anyone that wants to check.

It's "Burnell Productions" it was found like months ago i think?
 
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