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TGWTG "Nostalgia Critic" / Doug Walker, Rob Walker, Mike Michaud, Mike Ellis, Holly Christine Brown, et al - The Incompetent Predator-Protecting Upper Management of Channel Awesome, Doug Still Not That Funny
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I’m not sure if Social Justice is a cause or a symptom of Mental Health issues. But they definitely appear deeply interrelated. What’s the term? Co-morbidity?
And this class, is the absolute root of the vast majority of problems at Channel Autism. The big failure of management. Expanding too fast and beyond their ability to properly provide services and management. Thus pissing everybody off due to inflated and unrealistic expectations. CA would have been better off all along with just 10 or 12 good high production contributors. We already know that the vast majority of all of the traffic and money came from 5 producers. If you look the vast majority of the problems come from those who would be well outside the top 10. There was no legitimate reason to pile that many high strung entitled autists together. It served no legit business goal. It was just kids playing at business the same way they play at filmmaker or comedy. Thinking More = better. Without understanding how things work. Or putting in the backend to make it work.
Color blind 90’s guy? It’s really sad when you look at a single pic and the only thought is “didn’t Linkara already do that? And do it better?” Which is a sad and scary realization to come to.
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He's actually an annoying centrist, if anything. He's defended Logan Paul as well.
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Being a Mom probably forced her to largely give up binge drinking with ‘ol Lindsey. And the world looks a different place when you are sober and holding a child.
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He doesn't know how to address the issues without putting them in a top ten list.
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"If you like Mike Michaud and the decisions he's made, that's great! It's just my silly personal opinion!"
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I don't know what's screaming more: his fucking orange trilby, or crippling depression hidden behind that "smile".
I wonder if Larry is just stirring the pot with that statement or he knows something we don't.
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Pot stirring. Even though he's one of their last producers, he's not in the inner circle.
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Exactly. Regardless to his intentions, Larry's someone who loves a good shitshow. He's sort of like Jim in that way, although their approaches are diametric opposites. Larry likes to lurk in the background and occasionally toss out a seemingly innocent quip so he can snicker as it snowballs into something bigger than it needed to be. Jim does everything can to give a platform and a microphone people before probing them with as many questions as he can to see how much amusement can be got out of them.
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Tomorrow is the first full day off I've had in awhile that's also likely, hopefully to be one where I don't have personal matters to take care of, so I'm planning on binging out on the Anniversary movies, but mainly because instead of Suburban Knights, I didn't really watch them at all.
And you know, almost all production houses have these kinds of fallouts through the years. Example, the Price is Right. Back in the Golden Age of Game Shows, TPIR was one out of many (where today the only ones left from that era at all are Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy), but as decades went, problems arose. The Prize models from 1976-1999 were ending up with their own greivances, as star Bob Barker got more and more arrogant over the years. One by One, the four main models from 1990-1999 got the boot. Janice, Dian and Holly (ironically) were the ones who suffered the most. Janice in particular, was there since day one in 1972, and had to deal with the loss of her husband in 1976 (A story goes that she got offended when the game "Cliff Hangers" debut in that year, since her husband disappeared while on a expedition in the mountains of Afghanistan.)
TPIR had many, many more grievances inside too, Bob Barker ursorping the title of "Executive Producer" in 1987 when the former title holder passed away (and when the owner of the production house himself died in 1992, Barker went full iron-fist), the infamous scandal that erupted in 1993 when it was revealed Bob and Dian were in a private relationship, the way announcer Rod Roddy was treated when he was terminally ill (they took away his camera time even though he always stayed chipper at work, and enjoyed being on camera), and a lot more that I knew about over the years.
And you know, almost all production houses have these kinds of fallouts through the years. Example, the Price is Right. Back in the Golden Age of Game Shows, TPIR was one out of many (where today the only ones left from that era at all are Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy), but as decades went, problems arose. The Prize models from 1976-1999 were ending up with their own greivances, as star Bob Barker got more and more arrogant over the years. One by One, the four main models from 1990-1999 got the boot. Janice, Dian and Holly (ironically) were the ones who suffered the most. Janice in particular, was there since day one in 1972, and had to deal with the loss of her husband in 1976 (A story goes that she got offended when the game "Cliff Hangers" debut in that year, since her husband disappeared while on a expedition in the mountains of Afghanistan.)
TPIR had many, many more grievances inside too, Bob Barker ursorping the title of "Executive Producer" in 1987 when the former title holder passed away (and when the owner of the production house himself died in 1992, Barker went full iron-fist), the infamous scandal that erupted in 1993 when it was revealed Bob and Dian were in a private relationship, the way announcer Rod Roddy was treated when he was terminally ill (they took away his camera time even though he always stayed chipper at work, and enjoyed being on camera), and a lot more that I knew about over the years.
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Well i wrote what i remembered from quite a while ago so i admit i got things wrong but i do remember he did something not good just the memory is a bit hazy
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I'm too lazy to go through 83 pages to check if this has been mentioned already, but anyone else notice that most people raised actual issues and Lindsey spent a good chunk of hers bitching about #gamergate?
Anyway, this level of mismanagement is disappointing to see. I could almost understand in the very early days, but past the first year it's ridiculous. I remember their TGWTG website being stupid to navigate even for the time - the changes needed for it to be user friendly and to promote all producers are hardly complicated either. I think the mistakes might've been fine if not for Michaud's behaviour - but heaven forbid people apologise for crappy actions, right?
Anyway, this level of mismanagement is disappointing to see. I could almost understand in the very early days, but past the first year it's ridiculous. I remember their TGWTG website being stupid to navigate even for the time - the changes needed for it to be user friendly and to promote all producers are hardly complicated either. I think the mistakes might've been fine if not for Michaud's behaviour - but heaven forbid people apologise for crappy actions, right?
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it’s honestly fucking bizarre to think about all this shit happening with Channel Awesome. if Doug, Rob and Mike actually were competent in what they were doing and knew how to run a business then Channel Awesome would probably be as successful of an online entertainment company as Rooster Teeth is.
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Welp. It's all gone now. I wonder if anyone saved a copy. I was too lazy to.
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I just finished listening to that Frederik guy's reading of the draft of the document that came before Leslie and Iron Liz added to it. I read those seperately.
How in the ever loving fuck did the people at the top pull off so much retarded shit without ever being taken to court?
How in the ever loving fuck did the people at the top pull off so much retarded shit without ever being taken to court?
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The Blockbuster Buster is now one of the elder statesmen of Channel Awesome and one of its most important content creators.
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They didn't have contracts for anything. If you don't have a contractual agreement when you provide labour for someone, you don't have legal standing to take up anything in court no matter how poorly you're treated. Your only option is to exercise your right to leave.
Both the ex-producers and a lot of commentators here and elsewhere seriously underestimate the importance of contracts.