Furry Fandom and Drama General

And that's the strange part is it not?

Furries till this day still claim that they're the internet punching bag or that noone will ever understand them.

But they have dozens of conventions to go to, news articles and tv shows dedicated to them, people are way more open to allowing furries into their lives.

But the furry community themselves feel the need to attack and accuse one another for various things. Like what? You guys claim to accept everyone into your community but then get prissy about the very things you allow in?

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This shit really makes me want to make a sock twitter just to watch this shit go down. If this site has taught me anything, the worst of a fandom is usually vocal and active on either twitter or tumblr.

Debrotherized Luigi said:
You know, I actually kind of felt bad for furries when they were the internet's punching bag, back in the day.

In the past year alone, I no longer have any sympathy for them, and this forum (and this thread) is largely the reason why.
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Remember that this subforum is largely dedicated to observing the worst that the fandom has to offer. As harsh as I am towards it, a lot of the drama that goes on in local furry circles is petty and contained. Not to mention how half the fandom is so against drama that they act like it never happens. Regardless, there are good furries out there, but this site won’t focus on them because that’s not what we’re here to see. It would be like posting silly cat videos to LiveLeaks.

squooler said:
I tried to find some decent space in the fandom but you can't fucking breathe on twitter without being accused of being a Nazi by someone with a pool toy & feeder obsession.

Last time I tried interacting with the fandom I got accused of being a Nazi because I think gulags are bad. It's just fucked and tearing itself apart at this point.

E: and all the pedos that too
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The smart furs seem to have regulated themselves to art and talking with what friends they’ve already made. Maybe the occasional con or meet, if they’re feeling generous towards it. Quite honestly, it seems like the worst of the fandom is on twitter, which makes me happy I never paid attention it that section.

Slapstick_Basterd said:
Back in the day it may have been possible to find yourself a little niche in the furry fandom where you could enjoy yourself as you see fit and be comfortable.

Nowadays, that isn't really the case. No matter where you go in the fandom, there will invariably be some exceptional sperg, or several, kicking down that metaphorical door to burst in, making a fuss, kicking up dirt, as well as metaphorically (and sometimes literally) slinging shit around and just outright ruining the place.

In today's furry fandom, it's almost as if the community doesn't want you to be yourself and do what you like; you have to be hazed until you choose to be JUST. LIKE. THEM.
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Welcome to nearly every community these days. Name a few that aren’t like that. I’ll wait.
 
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Reynard said:
This shit really makes me want to make a sock twitter just to watch this shit go down. If this site has taught me anything, the worst of a fandom is usually vocal and active on either twitter or tumblr.


Remember that this subforum is largely dedicated to observing the worst that the fandom has to offer. As harsh as I am towards it, a lot of the drama that goes on in local furry circles is petty and contained. Not to mention how half the fandom is so against drama that they act like it never happens. Regardless, there are good furries out there, but this site won’t focus on them because that’s not what we’re here to see. It would be like posting silly cat videos to LiveLeaks.


The smart furs seem to have regulated themselves to art and talking with what friends they’ve already made. Maybe the occasional con or meet, if they’re feeling generous towards it. Quite honestly, it seems like the worst of the fandom is on twitter, which makes me happy I never paid attention it that section.


Welcome to nearly every community these days. Name a few that aren’t like that. I’ll wait.
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It happens in all art circles, not just furry art. Art school is a vicious place full of artists who cannibalize anyone who acts differently or makes art out of the circlejerk of styles. You sneeze out of protocol and they nail you to a cross, so art communities have a unified problem of artists being self-absorbed assholes with agendas.

Problems in furry art represent the bigger problem with art in general; artists are unsupportive and vindictive to anything out of their norm. Much like the serpent eating the ground, popular artists are in an infinite loop of douchebaggery and selfishness.

Something something blame capitalism.
 
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As harsh as I am towards it, a lot of the drama that goes on in local furry circles is petty and contained. Not to mention how half the fandom is so against drama that they act like it never happens. Regardless, there are good furries out there,
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I used to hold that view myself. But in my experiences I quickly found out that even the furries you thought were good turn out to have skeletons in the closet, or bizzare fetishes, or were emotional or sexual predators, or otherwise were just really good at passing for normal. And even if those dramas were local and petty, they were unbearable and threatened to spill all over you if you hung around them.

That said, that was my experience, your mileage may vary and you’re right that Twitter is the worst of the worst of them.
 
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billydero said:
I used to hold that view myself. But in my experiences I quickly found out that even the furries you thought were good turn out to have skeletons in the closet, or bizzare fetishes, or were emotional or sexual predators, or otherwise were just really good at passing for normal. And even if those dramas were local and petty, they were unbearable and threatened to spill all over you if you hung around them.

That said, that was my experience, your mileage may vary and you’re right that Twitter is the worst of the worst of them.
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Eh, fetishes typically don’t bother me unless they’re harmful and the person isn’t shoving it in your face. I just don’t see a reason to get mad about something that doesn’t concern me or harm anyone. I think part of the issue with your experiences could be chocked up to the fact that the people who are very upfront about being a Furry aside from a profile icon aren’t really the best examples of the fandom. Same goes for any group, really. Seems anyone loud and outspoken is generally a problem.

My experience also come from being a member of the fandom (and someone who doesn’t quite fit in there).
 
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Reynard said:
Eh, fetishes typically don’t bother me unless they’re harmful and the person isn’t shoving it in your face. I just don’t see a reason to get mad about something that doesn’t concern me or harm anyone. I think part of the issue with your experiences could be chocked up to the fact that the people who are very upfront about being a Furry aside from a profile icon aren’t really the best examples of the fandom. Same goes for any group, really. Seems anyone loud and outspoken is generally a problem.

My experience also come from being a member of the fandom (and someone who doesn’t quite fit in there).
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You have a point. It’s the loud and outspoken that’s the big problem, that and when they treat furry as a way of life (Xydexx, we’re looking at you...)

All the furries I knew always said “Call me by my character name, I don’t answer to my real life name.” That right there told me I needed to get out of the deep end of the pool.
 
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Reality Doctor said:
Fetishes themselves are mostly harmless, but some are easily abused as bad coping mechanisms for other problems.
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Yes, exactly. This is part of what I was thinking, I just didn't express it. And that was part of my problem with the furries I kept meeting because every single one of them used their fetish, or their fantasy self, their 'fursona', as a bad coping mechanism.
 
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Debrotherized Luigi said:
You know, I actually kind of felt bad for furries when they were the internet's punching bag, back in the day.

In the past year alone, I no longer have any sympathy for them, and this forum (and this thread) is largely the reason why.
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I follow a few furries on DeviantArt and at first they seemed like nice people but as the years went by many of them became worse and worse (some of them got into a lot of fights with people and at least one of them was a Glip defender, eugh)
 
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The person who runs the Ursa Major awards is bitching that the fandom is now a party zone, and that the newfags don't care about the fandom's history and whatnot as much.

I've also heard similar sentiments from other oldfag furries elsewhere too.

Reynard said:
The smart furs seem to have regulated themselves to art and talking with what friends they’ve already made. Maybe the occasional con or meet, if they’re feeling generous towards it. Quite honestly, it seems like the worst of the fandom is on twitter, which makes me happy I never paid attention it that section.
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The smart furries tend to do something to turn their career into a living, like the ones who go into gamedev, or the furries who not only do good art but who get noticed outside the fandom. They get more exposure, money, and fandom respect/reputation than the furries who use it as an "escape" from the real world do.
 
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Paranoid artfag is too stupid to research their commissioners before accepting to make the paid art.
Sibe is one of the most controversial furries out there, how do you fuck up this bad?

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This person has a pretty poor understanding of how the internet works.
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ForgottenAcct said:
I've heard "who owns the art" get debated for a while now. Whatever the answer, you'll lose customers if you state you can forcibly nuke your commissions by DMCA'ing people that paid for their artwork, even if they aren't notorious cows themselves.
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Essentially the only thing with TOS ever is you cannot resell it. That is pretty much it. You can post it wherever, fucking post high res, whatever the fuck, but you aren't supposed to sell it since its gaining profit from someone else's work.

Least what i assume.
 
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Cuddly Pirate said:
Essentially the only thing with TOS ever is you cannot resell it. That is pretty much it. You can post it wherever, fucking post high res, whatever the fuck, but you aren't supposed to sell it since its gaining profit from someone else's work.

Least what i assume.
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This is essentially the case, as a commissioner has full rights to use the works that they have paid for to be produced, however they see fit, so long as the use of it is not to in any way directly make any kind of profit or compensation. (unless, of course, the agreed upon contract with the artist allows for this, such as commissioning an artist for a book cover or something)

The only circumstance where a commissioner cannot post or distribute the works they commissioned freely is should the artist specify such limitations in their TOS, to which it is the commissioner's responsibility to read, acknowledge, and agree to.

Aside from that, as long as there's no profit being made by the commissioner, it's fair game for them to do with as they please.
 
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billydero said:
You have a point. It’s the loud and outspoken that’s the big problem, that and when they treat furry as a way of life (Xydexx, we’re looking at you...)

All the furries I knew always said “Call me by my character name, I don’t answer to my real life name.” That right there told me I needed to get out of the deep end of the pool.
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Most people in any fandom go by the motto “Fandom is just a goddamn hobby.”

The way I see it, unless you met online, there’s no reason to assume people will want to call you by your online name. Of course, there’s a difference when you’re meeting online around your online friends. I wouldn’t want my online friends knowing my actual name, so I’d ask my irl friends to use an online alias when around them. That’s more reasonable than people meeting in real life that know each other’s real names and there’s nobody around they’d prefer didn’t know their name, though.
 
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Jaiman said:
Paranoid artfag is too stupid to research their commissioners before accepting to make the paid art.
Sibe is one of the most controversial furries out there, how do you fuck up this bad?
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A lot of times newer furry artists with no idea of past drama will accept commissions blindly, or in some cases where they've been blacklisted from a lot of artists (Len Gilbert is this way for example) the commissioners will find foreign artists.
 
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