COLD CASES: Tevin's soda can saga - BREAKING: slapfight rumored to be behind poisoning

[Long time lurker]

You don't get them from touching a cup lol.

Actually you can get DNA out of objects that were touched by a criminal. It's called touch DNA and (I shit you not) there is a Dutch couple who are very famous for doing this kind of test.

 

[BSV]

I think tevin may be in real trouble If he is the only suspect. I understand his reasoning behind resigning at the job. But it does make him look a little guilty. It's an unfortunate situation. Because he did lose his job. Over the suspicion that he poisoned a co worker. So unless they show that either the bitch is full of shit. Or catch the person that did it. He will have this hanging over him. And that sucks.

 

[NursezillaX]

He also didn't get wrongly terminated, he said he agreed to resign so they didn't have to terminate him. While that is complete bullshit in a lot of ways, I'm pretty sure it means he threw away the right to sue for wrongful termination.

suppose, and he did it because he wanted to get a job later on life without any drama attached to it, if only Tevin could've been just like Dave and latch into a shitty job and have its co-workers mock him and not "care" about it....

Yep. Sucks, but sometimes you have to do this. I was accused of stuff at my first professional job where they couldn't prove anything, but they could use a paperwork error to technically still fire me. The best I could get out of them was to allow me to resign, and I made that decision (unlike what I said about Phil's big issue in a previous post) because the short-term benefit of letting them fire me so I could get unemployment was WAY outweighed by me not wanting to have a hassle for a new job I would be having to immediately look for over something I never did in the first place. It sucks, but sometimes it's just the practical thing to do. Pipe dreams of sueing some huge company like I worked forfand getting some windfall because you were wronged and it burns your ass is TV and movie stuff. The reality, often, is not at all worth it.

 

[HighTierGout]

I think tevin may be in real trouble If he is the only suspect. I understand his reasoning behind resigning at the job. But it does make him look a little guilty. It's an unfortunate situation. Because he did lose his job. Over the suspicion that he poisoned a co worker. So unless they show that either the bitch is full of shit. Or catch the person that did it. He will have this hanging over him. And that sucks.

There's apparently cameras, and he had another coworker working with him at the time, i think sadly this is a case of Tevin being a black man and being wrongly accused, they have to interview this girl before anything else

 

[Long time lurker]

Do you guys honestly think that someone who spent an ungodly amount of time combing through every minute detail of someone's life and is trying really hard to mess with Phil's head for shits and giggles isn't capable of doing something similar IRL?

I'm not saying Tevin did anything - I don't have enough information about what went down. But to say he's a good guy who dindun nuffin is a little too much. He's been systematically, methodically and obsessively trying to fuck Phil's life for some time now. Well adjusted people don't do that.

 

[JamFlowMan]

Do you guys honestly think that someone who spent an ungodly amount of time combing through every minute detail of someone's life and is trying really hard to mess with Phil's head for shits and giggles isn't capable of doing something similar IRL?

I'm not saying Tevin did anything - I don't have enough information about what went down. But to say he's a good guy who dindun nuffin is a little too much. He's been systematically, methodically and obsessively trying to fuck Phil's life for some time now. Well adjusted people don't do that.

Don't really follow Tevin's stuff and haven't watched his video about what happened and don't really care. However, just because you watch a person online doesn't mean you know them in any way. We've seen examples of this so many times. Recently with Jew Wario and last year there was the fall of the Sok, so it has already happened in the autistic sphere of Dsp. If Tevin's getting screwed that sucks, and if Tevin did something wrong that sucks for his viewers.

Also if Phil was picked up and taken in for an interrogation and almost immediately made a vlog about it he would be ripped apart, just saying.

 

[BrunoMattei]

Professional black man.

So he's on welfare?

 

[Sparkletor]

You get DNA from blood stains, saliva samples, hair and bodily secretions. You don't get them from touching a cup lol.

Phil's controller is coated with DNA just from touching it...

 

[Kamatsubu]

idk but if a detective told me they had DNA evidence of me touching a coffee cup which I'd allegedly poisoned and not drunk from I'd just laugh and walk off.

You get DNA from blood stains, saliva samples, hair and bodily secretions. You don't get them from touching a cup lol.

Sounds like the kind of "cop" that thinks they know everything because they watched every episode of CSI but still can't tell the difference between DNA evidence and fingerprints. Maybe they should take an actual forensic course.

Really sucks that Tevin has to deal with that kind of shit. In his position I wouldn't be happy either.

 

[ProdigalDuke]

Also if Phil was picked up and taken in for an interrogation and almost immediately made a vlog about it he would be ripped apart, just saying.

DSP has a long detailed history (muh 10 year legacy) of hyperbole, obfuscation, and outright lying about events that have happened in his life. As far as I'm aware, Tevin doesnt. I'm not naive enough to blindly back the dude, especially in this sphere of autism, but to compare him to how Phil would get treated is unfair. DSP has brought all the suspicion and disbelief on himself.

 

[OB 946]

Sounds like the kind of "cop" that thinks they know everything because they watched every episode of CSI but still can't tell the difference between DNA evidence and fingerprints. Maybe they should take an actual forensic course.

Really sucks that Tevin has to deal with that kind of shit. In his position I wouldn't be happy either.

If you think you can't get DNA samples from something you handled you're actually retarded. You shed skin cells constantly, and you can also get a sample from the oils left by the prints themselves. It's pretty simple, amigo.

 

[Kamatsubu]

Even if you want to say Tevin's story is far fetched, and shouldn't be instantly trusted unless we see some proof. I still sympathize with the guy in the 1% chance that it's true. As far as I'm aware Tevin has no real reason to lie (even for the sake of starting drama or getting attention) so I'm more inclined to believe him than not at the moment. I'll eat that humble pie though if it turns out I've misplaced my sympathies.

If you think you can't get DNA samples from something you handled you're actually exceptional. You shed skin cells constantly, and you can also get a sample from the oils left by the prints themselves. It's pretty simple, amigo.

Well at the time I wasn't thinking about the oils so that's my mistake, but the way Neger explained it; it just seemed like the officer was pretty incompetent. I am for the most part aware that some criminals try to wear clothing to ensure no hair follicles or skin cells are left at the scene.

 

[neger psykolog]

If you think you can't get DNA samples from something you handled you're actually exceptional. You shed skin cells constantly, and you can also get a sample from the oils left by the prints themselves. It's pretty simple, amigo.

I wasn't actually aware of the "touch DNA" concept but its quite a controversial topic:
https://www.creators.com/read/michelle-malkin/01/17/forensic-nightmare-the-perils-of-touch-dna

Not only that, actually doing touch DNA is more expensive than conventional DNA testing:
https://www.ifscolorado.com/touch-dna/

The problem is that Tevin works at the place, which means his fingers would've touched shit.

Because no one died, I really doubt the police has put up a task force to investigate some woman's drink which was most likely accidentally tampered with.

This isn't some high profile murder case with a crack forensics team working around the clock. That's exactly why the detective was sperging trying to get him to confess, because he knows that there's likely no real evidence they're ever going to find.

 

[Kamatsubu]

I wasn't actually aware of the "touch DNA" concept but its quite a controversial topic:
https://www.creators.com/read/michelle-malkin/01/17/forensic-nightmare-the-perils-of-touch-dna

Not only that, actually doing touch DNA is more expensive than conventional DNA testing:
https://www.ifscolorado.com/touch-dna/

The problem is that Tevin works at the place, which means his fingers would've touched shit.

Because no one died, I really doubt the police has put up a task force to investigate some woman's drink which was most likely accidentally tampered with.

This isn't some high profile murder case with a crack forensics team working around the clock. That's exactly why the detective was sperging trying to get him to confess, because he knows that there's likely no real evidence they're ever going to find.

I have heard that you can get fingerprints from the oils on your fingers. That's one thing I've seen thrown around, but I was also unaware of the touch DNA aspect as well. It's not something that I've ever seen or heard used very often compared to other forms of getting DNA evidence.

Anyways in the case of Tevin it just came off as though the cop didn't really know what he was doing. I also agree that it sounds like there's no real evidence that they could use against him. It's just bullshit in general that Tevin or anyone for that matter has to go through stupid shit like this.

 

[Drip Feed]

Did tevin make "pity bucks" during? Not that it matters, he said hes out of a job now right?, i kinda couldnt be asked to hear the while story since he was repeating a lot, he manually quit or was let off?, it dont seem like something he would lie about and seemed more frustrated with it, all in all i dont particularly care but its unfortunate at the least, i can say at least his stream is worth dozing off to when you want commentary

 

[OB 946]

I wasn't actually aware of the "touch DNA" concept but its quite a controversial topic:
https://www.creators.com/read/michelle-malkin/01/17/forensic-nightmare-the-perils-of-touch-dna

Not only that, actually doing touch DNA is more expensive than conventional DNA testing:
https://www.ifscolorado.com/touch-dna/

The problem is that Tevin works at the place, which means his fingers would've touched shit.

Because no one died, I really doubt the police has put up a task force to investigate some woman's drink which was most likely accidentally tampered with.

This isn't some high profile murder case with a crack forensics team working around the clock. That's exactly why the detective was sperging trying to get him to confess, because he knows that there's likely no real evidence they're ever going to find.

Yeah we do that shit all the time. It works mostly. The honest truth is that if a cop can't find evidence within like, half an hour of "investigation" and the story either smells like bullshit or doesn't matter because of how petty it is, they'll file a report and leave to do more important shit.

I can't tell you how many times cops have gotten out of work by pulling the "well I know he hit you but by mutual combatant laws I'd have to arrest you both... do you still want to press charges?"

 

[grump]

I wasn't actually aware of the "touch DNA" concept but its quite a controversial topic:
https://www.creators.com/read/michelle-malkin/01/17/forensic-nightmare-the-perils-of-touch-dna

Not only that, actually doing touch DNA is more expensive than conventional DNA testing:
https://www.ifscolorado.com/touch-dna/

The problem is that Tevin works at the place, which means his fingers would've touched shit.

Because no one died, I really doubt the police has put up a task force to investigate some woman's drink which was most likely accidentally tampered with.

This isn't some high profile murder case with a crack forensics team working around the clock. That's exactly why the detective was sperging trying to get him to confess, because he knows that there's likely no real evidence they're ever going to find.

I have heard that you can get fingerprints from the oils on your fingers. That's one thing I've seen thrown around, but I was also unaware of the touch DNA aspect as well. It's not something that I've ever seen or heard used very often compared to other forms of getting DNA evidence.

Anyways in the case of Tevin it just came off as though the cop didn't really know what he was doing. I also agree that it sounds like there's no real evidence that they could use against him. It's just bullshit in general that Tevin or anyone for that matter has to go through stupid shit like this.

Its completely possible theoretically to get enough DNA from just touch. Hardly controversial at all. One of the big things being touted in research circles are new methods that can get enough to sequence from a single cell. The major purpose is for scientific reasons rather than forensic but it goes to show how far you can go. Whether its within the resources of a typical police department. I don't know, but I haven't really heard of it yet but its achievable.

 

[OB 946]

Its completely possible theoretically to get enough DNA from just touch. Hardly controversial at all. One of the big things being touted in research circles are new methods that can get enough to sequence from a single cell. The major purpose is for scientific reasons rather than forensic but it goes to show how far you can go. Whether its within the resources of a typical police department. I don't know, but I haven't really heard of it yet but its achievable.

Touch DNA is possible to get for police agencies, but for the same reason they don't do hair follicle tests on every druggie, it's expensive and requires a lab more advanced than what a typical PD can provide. Most PDs don't even have crime labs or CSI teams. In fact, the massive majority of PDs don't even have their own dispatchers.

 

[neger psykolog]

Its completely possible theoretically to get enough DNA from just touch. Hardly controversial at all. One of the big things being touted in research circles are new methods that can get enough to sequence from a single cell. The major purpose is for scientific reasons rather than forensic but it goes to show how far you can go. Whether its within the resources of a typical police department. I don't know, but I haven't really heard of it yet but its achievable.

The controversy is that even if its possible its not conclusive enough for a situation like this.
I'd read about this story before, but I wasn't aware that it revolved around "touch DNA" but it did:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_of_Heilbronn

Its also not "guaranteed" that there would be enough samples on just the coffee cup itself so they'd have to test the area. If they were testing to see if the Zodiac killer was in the room that'd be helpful, but if its a case of "did an employee enter this nearby room at some point in the past year" it doesn't do anything for or against the case.

To cut a long story short, because he works there, his hair samples and shit are all around the place. Even if they tested and it actually went to court it'd be highly circumstantial evidence and would possibly be thrown out of evidence.

(here we are in the DSP subforum talking about touch DNA when only a few months ago we were talking about measuring dicks in inches or centimetres)

If there's enough demand I could open up a separate thread for this, but I don't know if its really warranted because I think the story will just die out within a few days.

sdfa

 

[JackDavis]

What's Tevin's job anyway?

From news articles I've seen online, a Custodian at an LSU facility.

Do you guys honestly think that someone who spent an ungodly amount of time combing through every minute detail of someone's life and is trying really hard to mess with Phil's head for shits and giggles isn't capable of doing something similar IRL?

This is a bad take. Whether someone spends an ungodly amount of time on DSP online doesn't say anything about if they're capable of poisoning someone IRL.