Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Stock Image Photographer]

Kind of off-topic, but when did Forbes turn into essentially The Mary Sue? I remember that they were somewhat respected at some point in the past, but now the only articles I see from them are SJW screeching.

 

[Flexo]

What a shock, an incredibly unpopular character is an utter failure for merchandizing.

I'm a bit curious for how the Holdo action figures are selling in comparison, if only to see which is least popular.

Holdo having a toy...
http://jedibusiness.com/star-wars-figures.aspx?type=appearance&typeName=tlj

Gee.... look who's not there....
(for bonus fun, there was apparently going to be a black series figure announced in feburary, but we still don't see her around do we???)

 

[Vault Boy]

Holdo having a toy...
http://jedibusiness.com/star-wars-figures.aspx?type=appearance&typeName=tlj
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Gee.... look who's not there....
(for bonus fun, there was apparently going to be a black series figure announced in feburary, but we still don't see her around do we???)

Oh, I thought they released that figure by now. Probably a good thing, as Holdo is almost as unpopular as Rose.

 

[millais]

Kind of off-topic, but when did Forbes turn into essentially The Mary Sue? I remember that they were somewhat respected at some point in the past, but now the only articles I see from them are SJW screeching.

Like most legacy news publications, most of Forbes's online web columns (and almost certainly the ones about pop culture and films/games media) are written by minimum-wage interns and unpaid freelance contributors with no editorial oversight. It's much more profitable to copy the clickbait model of "journalism" for their web articles that promise low overhead cost for big advertising returns and save the big bucks for the real salaried employees working on their dead-tree publications.

This has happened to all legacy news publications. Even Brianna Wu got some her inane ramblings published on the New York Times online editorial site.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

Jesus Christ that was lame. Is this guy supposed to be funny?

He was funny when everyone thought his “overblown Republicans” act was a bit and not how he actually thought all Republicans are.

 

[ZehnBoat]

Fuck Colbert. He's a hack.

colbert has been reading 'retardation: a celebration' too much

Colbert is like most late night "comics" these days, in that he fits Moe Lane's description of Tennessee Coates: "a producer of what is frankly a narrow and stylized form of political pornography." In terms of actual viewership, most of these "stars" are just mid-tier YouTubers who are on TV for some fucking reason.

and i hate it because i liked the colbert report.. yes he wasn't even handed on making fun of both sides, but he would take shots, and he didn't end up like olbermann

 

[Commander X]

Like most legacy news publications, most of Forbes's online web columns (and almost certainly the ones about pop culture and films/games media) are written by minimum-wage interns and unpaid freelance contributors with no editorial oversight. It's much more profitable to copy the clickbait model of "journalism" for their web articles that promise low overhead cost for big advertising returns and save the big bucks for the real salaried employees working on their dead-tree publications.

This has happened to all legacy news publications. Even Brianna Wu got some her inane ramblings published on the New York Times online editorial site.

Forbes media coverage has become larded with these angry fanboy bloggers who throw shit fits like the one above...never underestimate the role that their unhinged hostility plays in everything, these are incredibly angry people.

 

[Commander X]

Reading that over-long Forbes piece.

f we'd been aware of all of the arguments, tensions, and troubled productions during the original Star Wars trilogy, would fans and media have called for studio heads and producers to be removed from the franchise? Solo is the first real failure of the entire Star Wars franchise, but let's be clear -- the film still received positive critical reception and an A- grade from audiences, so it's failure is strictly financial.

Doublethink in the purest form. Solo is critically successful and well-regarded, everybody likes it, the only problem is that it's not making money! Well, why do movies lose money except that people don't like them and don't want to see them? This is a lie so obvious that I think it's at risk of being ignored, so brazenly is it asserted. Everybody likes Star Wars, except the so-called fans, but they're a powerless minority who are going to die off, so stop trying to destroy the franchise!

Why are people going on about the actress and the character she played in last year's Star Wars?

Well, one of the reasons is because the Blu-Ray and purchases of The Last Jedi are in the toilet and the merchandise sold 250 MILLION DOLLARS LESS THAN PROJECTIONS. They're trying for the 2-for-1: TLJ isn't that bad, go see Solo, and oh, the actors were so viciously attacked, buy the merch! Buy some completely unsellable Rose Tico action figures in a show of solidarity!

The Last Jedi is having difficulty selling 60 percent as many DVDs, Blu-Rays and VOD purchases as The Force Awakens.

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/8pc883/the_last_jedi_blu_ray_sales_drop_to_56_of_force/

The Force Awakens sold 3,420,540 units in its first week of release, The Last Jedi only sold 1,940,241 units. The Last Jedi brought in more than $40,000,000 less revenue in its first week of Blu Ray sales than The Force Awakens. By way of comparison, while the first Captain America did 20 million on Blu-Ray, the second one did even better on Blu-Ray and sales were up 10 percent for a 22 million dollar take. Disney has suppressed The Last Jedi Blu-Ray sales figures because they cratered. This is excellent evidence that the franchise has hemorrhaged fans at a staggering rate this year.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

Midnight’s Edge released a postmortem of Solo and how Star Wars fall under Disney.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Big, if true: https://www.express.co.uk/entertain...ms-Last-Jedi-outline-plot-script-Daisy-Ridley
To summarize: Daisy Ridley gave an interview to some French rag, where she said that JJ Abrams had drafted TLJ and the movie after that- and that Rian Johnson didn't keep anything of JJ's draft.

That would explain so, so much about TLJ.

 

[Mr. 0]

Big, if true: https://www.express.co.uk/entertain...ms-Last-Jedi-outline-plot-script-Daisy-Ridley
To summarize: Daisy Ridley gave an interview to some French rag, where she said that JJ Abrams had drafted TLJ and the movie after that- and that Rian Johnson didn't keep anything of JJ's draft.

That would explain so, so much about TLJ.

Watch as it gets memory-holed and then buried by misdirection by way of attacking the fanbase by people with no self-awareness and having another SW actor shut down their social media "because they were harassed off".

I bet you.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Watch as it gets memory-holed and then buried by misdirection by way of attacking the fanbase by people with no self-awareness and having another SW actor shut down their social media "because they were harassed off".

I bet you.

I'd take that bet at 7:2, and nothing less. Thanks for the archive, BTW, I'm pretty exceptional when it comes to this stuff. And yes, Disney really is dumb enough to quadruple down on attacking their fanbase to... shame them into liking their shit movies? Is this an actual plan?

 

[John Titor]

Who cares about about losing billions of dollars when you have the opportunity (that exists only in your tiny pea-brained head) to humiliate those you hate?

I guess these people are blind to Kennedy and Co's obvious failures, but what really strikes me about the people rallying around TLJ and/or Solo is that they seem to have no taste and as such wouldn't really be able to recognize a poor product from a great one. But it's all right so long as it "sends the right message", and then they point to small pockets of online trolls and such as representative of critics, who are all just "manbabies" who don't want to see strong women and POC succeed out of pure spite.

What happened to the actress was autistic and retarded but this guy is barking up the wrong tree.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

Remember when KOTOR 2 was made by someone that didn't like Star Wars, subverted the shit out of everyone's expectations but Star Wars fans loved it?

It really is all down to the execution.

 

[mrdk_04]

Remember when KOTOR 2 was made by someone that didn't like Star Wars, subverted the shit out of everyone's expectations but Star Wars fans loved it?

It really is all down to the execution.

Avellone didn't like parts of SW: the hypocrisy of the Jedi, the way The Force worked, Obi-Wan lying to Luke, etc.
He disliked certain aspects of a monomythical sci-fi movie series targeted towards children and responded by crafting one of the best written SW-stories to date.
The great thing about KOTOR 2 is that it's purely optional content, hidden behind a veneer of clunky controls, D&D- type gameplay, heavy atmosphere and an unfinished product.
It's this dark, mature, philosophical take on a galaxy far, far away and has no impact on the movies unless you actively seek it out and if you do, your perspective on SW is forever altered thanks to best girl Kreia.

With these new products I don't feel any of these people have even the faintest idea as to what made SW great, what can be done to expand on existing lore or what to present as new takes on the setting.
Either their creativity is curbstomped the moment they don't color between the lines, or they genuinely lack any creative insight.

I pity these new creators, so many great things have already been done with this property: Epic RPGs, Rainbow Six - SW Edition, Hack 'n Slash Ridiculousness, Samurai Skywalker Series, CGI Series, How To Train Your Jedi, SW Battlefield I&II, Flight Simulators, multitudes of comics, at least 3 great novels and an entirely new trilogy which gave rise to many of the aformentioned products and continues to be iconic to this very day.

I genuinely wonder if you could add more to this any more than has already been done, not that I think anyone should.
Leave the brand alone, let it fizzle out and remember it fondly.
I suppose "SW Jedi: Fallen Order" might be worth a shot, but considering it's published by EA, I doubt it.

 

[vertexwindi]

Remember when KOTOR 2 was made by someone that didn't like Star Wars, subverted the shit out of everyone's expectations but Star Wars fans loved it?

It really is all down to the execution.

Avellone actually does like Star Wars, but he admitted that KOTOR2 comes across as way more bitter than he meant to at times.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

Well his mouthpiece in the game was a bitter, broken old woman.

Says a lot she's a far stronger female character than anything in the movies.

 

[Judge Holden]

Avellone didn't like parts of SW: the hypocrisy of the Jedi, the way The Force worked, Obi-Wan lying to Luke, etc.
He disliked certain aspects of a monomythical sci-fi movie series targeted towards children and responded by crafting one of the best written SW-stories to date.
The great thing about KOTOR 2 is that it's purely optional content, hidden behind a veneer of clunky controls, D&D- type gameplay, heavy atmosphere and an unfinished product.
It's this dark, mature, philosophical take on a galaxy far, far away and has no impact on the movies unless you actively seek it out and if you do, your perspective on SW is forever altered thanks to best girl Kreia.

With these new products I don't feel any of these people have even the faintest idea as to what made SW great, what can be done to expand on existing lore or what to present as new takes on the setting.
Either their creativity is curbstomped the moment they don't color between the lines, or they genuinely lack any creative insight.

I pity these new creators, so many great things have already been done with this property: Epic RPGs, Rainbow Six - SW Edition, Hack 'n Slash Ridiculousness, Samurai Skywalker Series, CGI Series, How To Train Your Jedi, SW Battlefield I&II, Flight Simulators, multitudes of comics, at least 3 great novels and an entirely new trilogy which gave rise to many of the aformentioned products and continues to be iconic to this very day.

I genuinely wonder if you could add more to this any more than has already been done, not that I think anyone should.
Leave the brand alone, let it fizzle out and remember it fondly.
I suppose "SW Jedi: Fallen Order" might be worth a shot, but considering it's published by EA, I doubt it.

I get what you are saying. So much EU shit thrown at the wall along with the occasional nugget of gold (i.e. KOTOR) means there are precious few original concepts left that can be used.

....on the other hand, in about 5 seconds I was able to come up with a concept that im pretty damn sure has never been explored in any Star Wars media.

That being the concept of the Jedi and Sith and the Force becoming utterly outclassed and obsolete thanks to advancing technology and science being able to easily nullify, counter, and surpass their abilities, bringing the whole concept of the force right back to that scene in A New Hope when dis nigga....
https://sneed-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/57/03/28/570328da1ba1e13c4aa14dade8e2e426.jpg
....was sneering in Darth Vader's face about how fucking pathetic he was and the force was in the grand scheme of things. Only now, that bad combover motherfucker's spiritual successor would actually be 100% correct, and the proverbial Vader would be left behind in the dirt.

From there the story could go in any different direction.
- It could be the Jedi and Sith having one final swan song and uniting to save the galaxy a final time before they fade away into irrelevancy
- It could be the force itself evolving to match how the galaxy was going in order to allow its will (for better and for worse) to be done by its jedi and sith champions
- Hell it could be a full on post apocalyptic story along the lines of "this hyper advanced science and tech inadvertently resulted in hyperspace itself going batshit hell crazy, leaving every planet almost completely isolated and all that advanced tech breaking down to ruin, and the jedi and sith rising again since their advantage has been solidly restored, and only they are able to navigate through the chaotic nightmare hyperspace has become" (only slightly ripped off from warhammer 40k)

Point is, if random fucktards like me can pull unused and not completely unsalvagable concepts out our asses in a few minutes, im fairly sure a professional writer can.

 

[mrdk_04]

I get what you are saying. So much EU shit thrown at the wall along with the occasional nugget of gold (i.e. KOTOR) means there are precious few original concepts left that can be used.

....on the other hand, in about 5 seconds I was able to come up with a concept that im pretty damn sure has never been explored in any Star Wars media.

That being the concept of the Jedi and Sith and the Force becoming utterly outclassed and obsolete thanks to advancing technology and science being able to easily nullify, counter, and surpass their abilities, bringing the whole concept of the force right back to that scene in A New Hope when dis nigga....
https://sneed-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/57/03/28/570328da1ba1e13c4aa14dade8e2e426.jpg
....was sneering in Darth Vader's face about how fucking pathetic he was and the force was in the grand scheme of things. Only now, that bad combover motherfucker's spiritual successor would actually be 100% correct, and the proverbial Vader would be left behind in the dirt.

From there the story could go in any different direction.
- It could be the Jedi and Sith having one final swan song and uniting to save the galaxy a final time before they fade away into irrelevancy
- It could be the force itself evolving to match how the galaxy was going in order to allow its will (for better and for worse) to be done by its jedi and sith champions
- Hell it could be a full on post apocalyptic story along the lines of "this hyperadvanced science and tech inadvertently resulted in hyperspace itself going batshit hell crazy, leaving every planet almost completely isolated and all that advanced tech breaking down to ruin, and the jedi and sith rising again since their advantage has been solidly restored, and only they are able to navigate through the chaotic nightmare hyperspace has become" (only slightly ripped off from warhammer 40k)

Point is, if random fucktards like me can pull unused and not completely unsalvagable concepts out our asses in a few minutes, im fairly sure a professionalwriter can.

That's sounds like a concept Obsidian may have thought of for KOTOR 3.
Who would want to make it, though?
It sounds like a beautiful end to SW, but you're pretty much burying the franchise's relevance if you produce such a thing.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but it seems like a final hurrah, not unlike Logan.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

That's sounds like a concept Obsidian may have thought of for KOTOR 3.
Who would want to make it, though?
It sounds like a beautiful end to SW, but you're pretty much burying the franchise's relevance if you produce such a thing.
Perhaps I'm wrong, but it seems like a final hurrah, not unlike Logan.

I was going to say this could work for Episode 9 as well if done right but since Rian Johnson had to be a raging cuck and fuck everything up with TLJ, that's never going to happen.