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How much money could Chris make as a full-time Twitch streamer through subs and bits if he had the capacity to stick to a schedule?
 
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Well, if there's a physiological cause to it (scrambled noggin because of something in utero), that's a little more legitimate in my eyes than something that's purely mental.

I couldn't in good conscience support mangling healthy organs for an issue that's purely in one's head.

But if it's a disorder that's tied to a physical brain thing, like neurology or something like that, something that's impossible to cure, I'm willing to listen to treatments that can mitigate the suffering. Including surgery or hormones.

Edit: Though I don't believe we'll ever find that proof. Trannies have buttfucked the system with their goofy politics, so it can't function objectively.
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I get your point, but what's the difference?

Most (if not all) mental illnesses have neurological aspects (often involving altered brain chemistry or altered brain structures) but we don't indulge their diseases, because that never helps anything. It usually just makes things worse. From depression to schizophrenia, anxiety to OCD, I can't think of a non-transient mental illness that doesn't involve neurological differences.

Regardless of neurological differences, why only trans people? Personally I think that "buttfucking" they did with their politics is the entire reason they're not committed for saying some of the delusional shit they say.
 
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I always felt like Chris's troonism was less about him wanting to be a woman, and more about him wanting to escape being a man (or to escape the expectations he saw as going along with being a man), and find something to pin his problems on (used to be "autism/people treat me bad because autism", now its the same except replace autism with troonism).

His autism always had him focussed on his narrow, simplistic ideas about the genders (like in his "message to the future" video with the "be true to your original gender" stuff. Or all the "Brute Male Jerks" vs "Pure, Sweet gal-pals" stuff), so after all the troll shit from '07 to 2010, when he asked himself "Why is my life such a mess? Why does erryone treat me so mean?" his best answer was "must be because I like MLP and am so nice and sweet to everyone, therefore not male, therefore must be female".

Not to say he "isn't really trans", exactly. IMO a lot of the high rate of autism/tranny crossover is probably from similar reasoning, and if the whole idea of "real trans" is kinda weird if you ask me- he's not presenting a male anymore, so fine he's "real trans", I guess. But looking at his ideas about women, from the comic and from what he's said over the years, and its hard not to see escape (from conflict, responsibility, etc) as being a big factor in his realization that he's a woman.

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I get your point, but what's the difference?

Most (if not all) mental illnesses have neurological aspects (often involving altered brain chemistry or altered brain structures) but we don't indulge their diseases, because that never helps anything. It usually just makes things worse. From depression to schizophrenia, anxiety to OCD, I can't think of a non-transient mental illness that doesn't involve neurological differences.

Regardless of neurological differences, why only trans people? Personally I think that "buttfucking" they did with their politics is the entire reason they're not committed for saying some of the delusional shit they say.
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Because [1] the current year psych establishment believe treating trans people as whatever gender is effective treatment. I'm not sure what the data says either way on trannys tbh, but I doubt thats the case for other mental illnesses. [2] Treating someone in a frock and a lipstick as a woman (and most trannys pass way better than Chris does; they'll at least pass as an ugly chick or an effeminate-looking man) is a lot easier, less confronting and less drama than telling a depressive "Yeah, you probably should off yourself" or telling a schizophrenic "You know, I'm pretty sure the aliens ARE planting thoughts in your head" and [3] troonism is different to most mental illnesses, in that depression, schizophrenia, etc are usually episodic; the sufferer is OK for a month or two, then they're suicidal, or hearing voices or whatever for a month or so. Troons are just troons 24/7, so indulging them is much more straightforward.

Not even getting into the "trans is a mental illness" thing, I think calling trans people "he/she" vs telling a schizophrenic "yeah, that's totally Satan you're hearing in your head" is a tough comparison to sell. Just on a practical level they're a whole different thing.
 
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Mathas said:
I get your point, but what's the difference?

Most (if not all) mental illnesses have neurological aspects (often involving altered brain chemistry or altered brain structures) but we don't indulge their diseases, because that never helps anything. It usually just makes things worse. From depression to schizophrenia, anxiety to OCD, I can't think of a non-transient mental illness that doesn't involve neurological differences.
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Exactly this. We don't indulge their diseases specifically because it doesn't help in those situations. Letting someone who feels they were born in the wrong body live out their life in the right body is substantially soothing. But anxious people don't feel any less anxious to be told their anxieties are all justified.

There's a cost/benefit tradeoff to all treatments and it's more benefit than cost with transgenderism. Basically what @Snuckening said.

This is the theory, of course. The specifics are highly debatable. But I think the theory is sound (pending better studies and data), I'm just not convinced transgenderism is physiological as opposed to purely mental or delusional.
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Regardless of neurological differences, why only trans people? Personally I think that "buttfucking" they did with their politics is the entire reason they're not committed for saying some of the delusional shit they say.
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Well, we don't really commit people against their will for purely being crazy anymore. We haven't in decades.

I don't know, I'm not thinking the political fuckery was the initial reason why transgenderism started being taken seriously. It's a rare phenomenon, but it exists. They've been investigating the topic throughout the 1900's, even when gay rights was not a thing and the police were still beating up gays with nightsticks.

The earlier standards for ethical treatment of transgenderism were pretty reasonable, if you believe that transgenderism is a legit thing. It involved making sure the person lived as the target gender for years, therapy to see if they can get the tranny feelings to go away, starting them off on hormones before surgery, etc.

It was all pretty thorough. Crazy trannies, however, started screeching about gatekeeping.
 
I know Chris drove to Cleveland and back that one time, and has driven hours to stores he's not banned from, but Too Many Games is a five and a half one way trip from Ruckersville according to Google. Chris strikes me as the type of traveler to drive slowly and make frequent stops, not to mention the route goes through three major metro areas, so realistically he's looking at twelve hours round trip, minimum. The stress that will cause, in addition to thinking TMG will not be the all inclusive hugbox crowd Bronycon was, leads me to think Chris is going to have a less than pleasant time.
 
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I know Chris drove to Cleveland and back that one time, and has driven hours to stores he's not banned from, but Too Many Games is a five and a half one way trip from Ruckersville according to Google. Chris strikes me as the type of traveler to drive slowly and make frequent stops, not to mention the route goes through three major metro areas, so realistically he's looking at twelve hours round trip, minimum. The stress that will cause, in addition to thinking TMG will not be the all inclusive hugbox crowd Bronycon was, leads me to think Chris is going to have a less than pleasant time.
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It's not like he has anything else to do all day though
 
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Buck Mullet said:
I know Chris drove to Cleveland and back that one time, and has driven hours to stores he's not banned from, but Too Many Games is a five and a half one way trip from Ruckersville according to Google. Chris strikes me as the type of traveler to drive slowly and make frequent stops, not to mention the route goes through three major metro areas, so realistically he's looking at twelve hours round trip, minimum. The stress that will cause, in addition to thinking TMG will not be the all inclusive hugbox crowd Bronycon was, leads me to think Chris is going to have a less than pleasant time.
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I remember reading somewhere that he drives really badly. Don't know if he is driving to the EXTREME or just obviously very stupidly.
 
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deeman said:
I remember reading somewhere that he drives really badly. Don't know if he is driving to the EXTREME or just obviously very stupidly.
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He drives slowly like an old person. And he does dumb shit like swerve to hit things for shits and giggles. And he's easily distracted.

He'll probably be fine because it's mostly highway.
 
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