Carl Benjamin / Sargon of Akkad / Akkad Daily / The Thinkery / @not_sargon / @WarPlanPurple - Leader of the "Liberalists" & Droning Pseudo-Intellectual Boomer anti-SJW Activist, Applebees Waiter, Mass Shooter Whiteknight

[TheMayorofHerbertville]

I don' think Sargon cares one way or the other about immigrants anymore. What I bet he DOES care about is his REAL NAME being posted in the title of this thread. I don't think he is a public figure on the level of Oprah or Caitlin Jenner, so one wonders why he is treated like he is on that level, he should be treated like one of us, with the same privacy afforded there too.

 

[Lysol]

I don' think Sargon cares one way or the other about immigrants anymore. What I bet he DOES care about is his REAL NAME being posted in the title of this thread. I don't think he is a public figure on the level of Oprah or Caitlin Jenner, so one wonders why he is treated like he is on that level, he should be treated like one of us, with the same privacy afforded there too.

He has showings at theaters for fuck's sake, he's definitely a public figure.

 

[soy_king]

He has showings at theaters for fuck's sake, he's definitely a public figure.

What's the point of arguing? The dude's either trolling or whiteknighting. Either way, it's just pure :autism:.

 

[Pikimon]

Doxing Sargon is just me expressing my freedom of speech, I'm sure Sargon would have no issue with me expressing my freedom of speech.

 

[Toucan]

I don' think Sargon cares one way or the other about immigrants anymore. What I bet he DOES care about is his REAL NAME being posted in the title of this thread. I don't think he is a public figure on the level of Oprah or Caitlin Jenner, so one wonders why he is treated like he is on that level, he should be treated like one of us, with the same privacy afforded there too.

Dude he fucking goes on speaking tours and interviews under his real name. Vee and Louis La Vau use his real name all the time.

Regarding Kraut if he ever does come back i cant imagine why he would try to be as someone said earlier a liberalist attack dog. I dont know why he would have any loyalty for Sargon after he was effectively thrown under the bus by him.

 

[BobManly]

@TheMayorofHerbertville

Spoiler: Why are you doing this?

I have been attacked many times by trolls and moderators stemming from E.D. and even have an article made about me on that site. One of the things they accused me of was "Oh this guy is a psycho, he will surely shoot up a school", and yet I find out that one of there own did the very thing they were always accusing me of.

I am well educated, not wealthy, but doing ok and if I were to compare myself to the lifestyles of the people I have seen behind E.D. I would say I am a God.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/william-edward-atchison-fuckyou.37309/page-17#post-3494430

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/william-edward-atchison-fuckyou.37309/page-17#post-3491133

 

[Diabeetus]

@TheMayorofHerbertville

Spoiler: Why are you doing this?

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/william-edward-atchison-fuckyou.37309/page-17#post-3494430

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https://kiwifarms.net/threads/william-edward-atchison-fuckyou.37309/page-17#post-3491133

So, either @TheMayorofHerbertville is actually Sargon or it's some idiot pretending to be Sargon. Either way, it's pretty stupid what he's doing.

Regarding Kraut if he ever does come back i cant imagine why he would try to be as someone said earlier a liberalist attack dog. I dont know why he would have any loyalty for Sargon after he was effectively thrown under the bus by him.

Yeah, that's another thing. Kraut does not forgive or forget, even when it's over something that's completely false and untrue. This is the same guy that made Aydin Paladin (one of his biggest fans) cry three seperate times on a Warski stream because he thought she was a spy. Kraut can't get over anything. If he can't show mercy for someone who was once his top fucking dickrider that didn't actually do anything wrong, what makes anyone think he'd forgive Sargon?

 

[Toucan]

Yeah, that's another thing. Kraut does not forgive or forget, even when it's over something that's completely false and untrue. This is the same guy that made Aydin Paladin (one of his biggest fans) cry three seperate times on a Warski stream because he thought she was a spy. Kraut can't get over anything. If he can't show mercy for someone who was once his top fucking dickrider that didn't actually do anything wrong, what makes anyone think he'd forgive Sargon?

While I would like you to be right a cynical part of me suspects that kraut will go on to prove himself another Sargon cock kisser. Sargon has a weird ability to inspire undying loyalty in some of his followers and from listening to the tapes of Kraut when he was confronted by sargon on discord he immediatly felt like a child that had been told off and completly submitted to Sargons criticisim while everyone else in the chat was saying fuck him.

 

[Diabeetus]

While I would like you to be right a cynical part of me suspects that kraut will go on to prove himself another Sargon cock kisser. Sargon has a weird ability to inspire undying loyalty in some of his followers and from listening to the tapes of Kraut when he was confronted by sargon on discord he immediatly felt like a child that had been told off and completly submitted to Sargons criticisim while everyone else in the chat was saying fuck him.

Plus, if he came crawling back to Sargon, he would 100% welcome him with open arms. He'd give Kraut the biggest bear hug in history, like a father would hug his son after he won the Little League game. I think Sargon sees Kraut as nothing but a useful idiot, and if you want useful idiots to be on your side, you need to be nice to them.

I feel that Kraut's temper, in the end, would make him throw Sargon in the trash, but I wouldn't be suprised if he started blowing him again.

 

[Toucan]

Plus, if he came crawling back to Sargon, he would 100% welcome him with open arms. He'd give Kraut the biggest bear hug in history, like a father would hug his son after he won the Little League game. I think Sargon sees Kraut as nothing but a useful idiot, and if you want useful idiots to be on your side, you need to be nice to them.

I feel that Kraut's temper, in the end, would make him throw Sargon in the trash, but I wouldn't be suprised if he started blowing him again.

Perhaps you are right. Perhaps Kraut sees Sargon as a sort of salvation, a means to a rehabilitation and a reintegration into a group. I have said it before but i think it would be very interesting to interview Kraut, either directly or through more sneaky means, and see what he has to say about Sargon and his involvment in the doxxing drama.

 

[soy_king]

Yeah, that's another thing. Kraut does not forgive or forget, even when it's over something that's completely false and untrue. This is the same guy that made Aydin Paladin (one of his biggest fans) cry three seperate times on a Warski stream because he thought she was a spy. Kraut can't get over anything. If he can't show mercy for someone who was once his top fucking dickrider that didn't actually do anything wrong, what makes anyone think he'd forgive Sargon?

You're also talking about whether Kraut would choose to help JF Gariepy and Coach Red Pill. At that rate, it's more a question of who he hates more, and my money is on the French Rapist.

 

[SuperDeeDuper]

And there have been a few rumblings about how "the altright does it too so it was okay" which could provide justification. For the record the evidence is pretty bad. The main point was that Ruin's leaks had Kraut's address somewhere in them...but someone pointed out he lives in Germany and would have said his address in German (he was ordering food) so nobody but Kraut would have known this if it was never mentioned. It certainly never came up when the drama was unfolding, it seems to be retroactively a point of contention when it had no impact.

they are dusting off the drama six months later to try and rewrite history by flipping all the accusations onto the people who called them out. sherratt has been going around saying he "outed ruin as a doxer" but the truth is he didn't even show any evidence, it's just a claim being made. the fact that kraut has had his information out for a couple of years now makes it seem dubious to me because it's not like you can't get someone's address with their name.

While I would like you to be right a cynical part of me suspects that kraut will go on to prove himself another Sargon cock kisser. Sargon has a weird ability to inspire undying loyalty in some of his followers and from listening to the tapes of Kraut when he was confronted by sargon on discord he immediatly felt like a child that had been told off and completly submitted to Sargons criticisim while everyone else in the chat was saying fuck him.

You're also talking about whether Kraut would choose to help JF Gariepy and Coach Red Pill. At that rate, it's more a question of who he hates more, and my money is on the French Rapist.

kraut will never turn on sargon because sargon is his only real chance at rehabilitation. jim's videos on kraut have hundreds of thousands of views a piece, he would need someone with a big platform to run damage control for him so that the narrative can be flipped.

vee mentioned yesterday on warski live that kraut "wants to make a video to clear his name" which will be funny to watch because the evidence is damning. a new mega link with all the zeph and zoom leaks has been going around on /cow/ with specific notes about where the evidence is. turns out, kraut is on tape giving everyone CRP's info in a DM group, there was an entire server dedicated just to CRP, and the recordings of the main server show people talking about PII. the DM groups, the CRP server and the main server all had overlap in terms of userbase. they think they are going to weasel their way out of it by pointing out that the dox was passed around behind the scenes even though this doesn't contradict anything kraut was accused of doing.

from /cow/:
https://mega.nz/#F!EiIgDA5A!6W7n1OLlMQYAQCR9gFJXvg
https://ghostbin.com/paste/anbcc/raw

 

[Grand Lunar]

Redid political compass test. Ended up about 3/4 down the libertarian scale, and like 1/2 a square to the left. Sounds like he should probably stop saying that he's part of the economic left, since he's pretty much dead center now.

 

[Toucan]

Redid political compass test. Ended up about 3/4 down the libertarian scale, and like 1/2 a square to the left. Sounds like he should probably stop saying that he's part of the economic left, since he's pretty much dead center now.

He is caught somewhere between 'Bernie woulda won' and 'what if the child consents?'

 

[Lysol]

vee mentioned yesterday on warski live that kraut "wants to make a video to clear his name"

We're all going to be waiting in perpetuity for that video. There's absolutely nothing that he can spin, or twist, to try to save face post-mortem - he got caught red-handed. If he is "working" on a video to "clear his name" at the moment, I'm sure that the production process currently consists of him starting the script, furrowing his brow, then crumpling up the piece of paper and adding it to the pile.

It's been far, far too long since it happened for him (and anyone involved) to try to cover their asses now, the dust has settled and - for better or worse - people have taken their stances on what happened.

 

[Grand Lunar]

We're all going to be waiting in perpetuity for that video. There's absolutely nothing that he can spin, or twist, to try to save face post-mortem - he got caught red-handed. If he is "working" on a video to "clear his name" at the moment, I'm sure that the production process currently consists of him starting the script, furrowing his brow, then crumpling up the piece of paper and adding it to the pile.

It's been far, far too long since it happened for him (and anyone involved) to try to cover their asses now, the dust has settled and - for better or worse - people have taken their stances on what happened.

A while ago, I made a temporary pledge to Kraut (which I eventually deleted) purely to read his patron only posts and see what he was up to. He was posting about releasing another video back in March, before saying it had been moved back to April. Then he quietly dropped it and never posted about it again from what I could see.

He also says that his claim to "feel like (he) is becoming a monster" had nothing to do with the supposed doxxing (he still denies all the claims), but was instead about him feeling like his paranoia had led to him shunning people who were actually on his side or at least weren't ill intention-ed (maybe he's talking about Aydin Paladin here, I don't know).

If he does return it will probably either be another business as usual video, attempting to pretend the drama never happened, or as you said a video doubling down on all the lies told thus far. He's actually still got a fair amount of support on Patreon despite inactivity though (316 per video), so if he dropped all of this and just moved on he actually might have enough fans left to make it worthwhile.

As for Sargon's role, he's publicly said that he's still friends with Kraut, and will probably at least be friendly with him if he returns (though Kraut has said that he told Sargon not to help him, because it would only end badly for Sargon). If IBS were still around, Kraut's return could hurt Sargon and other people associated with him, but now that all the faux-outrage drama is dead I'm not sure anyone would even care anymore.

 

[Hierophantis]

they are dusting off the drama six months later to try and rewrite history by flipping all the accusations onto the people who called them out. sherratt has been going around saying he "outed ruin as a doxer" but the truth is he didn't even show any evidence, it's just a claim being made. the fact that kraut has had his information out for a couple of years now makes it seem dubious to me because it's not like you can't get someone's address with their name.

Not even that, in the last Metokur video on Kraut at 24 minutes he says he gathered the damn info and showed it around.

The only intelligent thing they've done is seed the idea that Ruin leaked Kraut's address because you cant disprove it without wading through hours of audio. And when I listened to the audio 6 months ago I dont recall it at all, but I do recall him speaking to people either irl or on the phone in German (which I doubt Ruin would understand)

He also says that his claim to "feel like (he) is becoming a monster" had nothing to do with the supposed doxxing (he still denies all the claims), but was instead about him feeling like his paranoia had led to him shunning people who were actually on his side or at least weren't ill intention-ed (maybe he's talking about Aydin Paladin here, I don't know).

If he does return it will probably either be another business as usual video, attempting to pretend the drama never happened, or as you said a video doubling down on all the lies told thus far. He's actually still got a fair amount of support on Patreon despite inactivity though (316 per video), so if he dropped all of this and just moved on he actually might have enough fans left to make it worthwhile.

He apologized to JF over skype and copped to looking for info on people. He's trying revisionist history on you. And there was the 'appology' video he deleted where he said "yea doxing did happen BUT IT WAS ALL ZEPH"

He's done this before, a lot, pretending to change.

I cant say I am surprised the sanctimonious Carl Benjamin is willing to look the other way on Kraut again. He did before

https://youtu.be/dl3jeuZ7Ujs?t=22m40s

 

[Diabeetus]

but was instead about him feeling like his paranoia had led to him shunning people who were actually on his side or at least weren't ill intention-ed (maybe he's talking about Aydin Paladin here, I don't know).

This tweet says otherwise.

If you or anyone else does not know, Kraut is referencing the Warski stream where he and Aydin, among others, argued over Kraut's bullshit. Aydin reiterated several times that she "really liked Kraut", mostly during her fits of frustration and sadness. Kraut would berate her everytime she said this.

These sort of direct, quote blows are one of Kraut's go-tos for ripping someone apart. I don't think he'd do this sort of thing to someone he feels sympathy for.

The only way I could see that interpretation of the Patreon post is if this brief Twitter spat happened before it was posted. Otherwise, I can't really see that.

 

[SuperDeeDuper]

Not even that, in the last Metokur video on Kraut at 24 minutes he says he gathered the damn info and showed it around.

The only intelligent thing they've done is seed the idea that Ruin leaked Kraut's address because you cant disprove it without wading through hours of audio. And when I listened to the audio 6 months ago I dont recall it at all, but I do recall him speaking to people either irl or on the phone in German (which I doubt Ruin would understand)

yup, and even though the onus is on them to prove it, the accusation is so salacious that people are just believing it at face value because of how shocking it is. at least, when it comes to lefties who are buying into it

And there was the 'appology' video he deleted where he said "yea doxing did happen BUT IT WAS ALL ZEPH"

 

[Grand Lunar]

Well, looks like the plan to takeover an co-opt UKIP is still in full swing.
(Email supposedly detailing Sargon's rejection is apparently confirmed fake.)