Carl Benjamin / Sargon of Akkad / Akkad Daily / The Thinkery / @not_sargon / @WarPlanPurple - Leader of the "Liberalists" & Droning Pseudo-Intellectual Boomer anti-SJW Activist, Applebees Waiter, Mass Shooter Whiteknight

[KillThemCrackasBabies]

when Sargon says he's "a liberal" he means in the sense of economic and philosophical liberalism, not "a liberal" in the sense of somebody like Maxine Waters or Rachel Maddow.

Right, a libertarian.

it's also worth considering his stances on social issues: he's pro gay marriage, loves his porn and weed, and anti-religion.

Much like a Libertarian.

I understand the UK doesn't have the exact same political spectrum as the U.S., but he's surely aware of what Libertarians are, and how closely he aligns with them. It seems like trying to spice that up for the British -as opposed to stubbornly sticking with the "real liberal" and "classical liberal" shit- would just save time and frustration, even if his gimmick as of late is "saving true liberalism" or whatever the fuck he said in that video about the Liberalists.

his main reason for opposing immigration is because of its effect on the working class and not any of the reasons traditionalist right-wingers would give, like preserving the culture of the homeland or preserving demographics. he mostly just tries to pander to those people because he's too opposed to social justice causes to keep anyone else as his audience. he courts the right-wing, then, as you say, turns around and shits on them calling them far-right or nazis

Most Conservatives and U.S. Republicans don't have a problem courting Nazis, and when they're called on it they dismiss it and never acknowledge it again. Again, to me, it just seems like unneeded effort being put in that could be better spent making his actual political alignment come across as better. U.S. Libertarians have zero hesitation in telling you who they are and what they believe, Sargon strikes me as someone who thinks he has to cleverly disguise what he thinks to try and sway undecideds and in turn it looks less convincing.

 

[protomartyr]

Red Panels isnt a good example of a thoughtful libertarian. Red Panels isnt a good example of anything.

Wasn't he a little fashy? I seem to remember some dodgy shit in his webcomic.

Right, a libertarian.



Much like a Libertarian.

I understand the UK doesn't have the exact same political spectrum as the U.S., but he's surely aware of what Libertarians are, and how closely he aligns with them. It seems like trying to spice that up for the British -as opposed to stubbornly sticking with the "real liberal" and "classical liberal" shit- would just save time and frustration, even if his gimmick as of late is "saving true liberalism" or whatever the fuck he said in that video about the Liberalists.

It's an issue of moderation really. They're working from the same philosophical foundation, both in the lower right quadrant of your typical political compass and championing the concept of individual rights over those of the state or collective. People who label themselves libertarian just tend to be more "extreme" in that conviction.

 

[Abominacione]

Nigger what.

In the U.S. he'd be a Libertarian. Libertarians are a center-right ideology.

remember the "marxist sargonism" debacle? i dont think setting a wage cap for ceos and splitting the remnants to employees is libertarian, he seems to pick points here and there, consistency is not his forte, so i dont know if he's a socialist or just dumb.

 

[SuperDeeDuper]

remember the "marxist sargonism" debacle? i dont think setting a wage cap for ceos and splitting the remnants to employees is libertarian, he seems to pick points here and there, consistency is not his forte, so i dont know if he's a socialist or just dumb.

people need to keep in mind that this is a thread about a guy whose political thought never went deeper than "lol god not real" until gamergate happened. in other words, he has been left-wing for most of his life. all this stuff he says about capitalism and stealth libertarian talking points now is just a way for him to trigger other lefties.

 

[Toucan]

Wasn't he a little fashy? I seem to remember some dodgy shit in his webcomic.

It wouldnt surprise me. Libertarians would gladly offer their asses to be fucked by an autocratic military state and many that i know have a rather suspect fetish for nazi uniforms, if you know what I mean. Even Ayn Rand had an unhealthy love of police and military forces when she wrote Atlas Shrugged. She was prepared to let scores of innocent people die in that book because they were "parasites" leeching off a system but the military and the police, you know the ones that uphold the same system she opposed, are afforded the utmost respect and there is even a few paragraphs devoted to sucking their dicks because they "protect us" from outsiders.

So long as they are allowed to smoke weed and polish the barrels of their guns in starbucks libertarians really dont care if Hitler himself rose from the Moscow river and took power.

Also. A book that Carlgon should read (for real not just the synopsis on wikipedia) is Che Guevara's motorcycle diary. He lays out very clearly that the people of the world are mostly politically inert. Most people will never make an attempt to change the system of operation around them even if it makes their lives miserable and there are only so many people in the world who are willing to do something about it, and even fewer still who will be succesful.
The point of it all is that there comes a point when pontificating about this or that issue becomes useless, like trying to set Helium on fire, and actual political or violent action is needed to change the way of the world. My recommendation is that sargon stops complaning , get up off his ass and do something real for once, throw yourself in front of the Queens horse or form a militia, do something other than wallow in your own fucking smugness!

 

[YW 525]

"I didnt accuse them, I just said people told me they were and reported that fact without any qualification beyond saying they were obsessed with me"

How he got away with that one is beyond me.

He got away with it because most of his fans fancy themselves intellectual thinkers, when in reality they can barely order fast food in a competent fashion. Or they're teenagers.

 

[Hierophantis]

Guys, Sargon is a libertarian when arguing against people more statist than him and a social democrat when arguing against people more right wing than him, a chauvinist when arguing against progressives and a universalist when arguing against the altright.

 

[Draza]

Guys, Sargon is a libertarian when arguing against people more statist than him and a social democrat when arguing against people more right wing than him, a chauvinist when arguing against progressives and a universalist when arguing against the altright.

So pretty much all over the place and won't pick a side he truly stands on.

 

[SuperDeeDuper]

He got away with it because most of his fans fancy themselves intellectual thinkers, when in reality they can barely order fast food in a competent fashion. Or they're teenagers.

his fans are the perfect example of dunning-kruger, they take sargon at his word on everything and basically see him as their "politics daddy" who they can rely on to get all their talking points and analysis from, so they don't do any investigation of their own. if you want proof of this, take a trip into his new discord server or the "republic of kekistan" server and ask these people about what they believe or challenge them on specific issues. they have nothing original to say and just parrot whatever they think sargon would say

Guys, Sargon is a libertarian when arguing against people more statist than him and a social democrat when arguing against people more right wing than him, a chauvinist when arguing against progressives and a universalist when arguing against the altright.

this is what irks me the most about centrists is that they never seem to have any consistent stances. they will say "i am a mix of both sides" but this is an extremely reductionist way of looking at politics because it implies that they are only two sides to choose from. so when faced with the reality that politics is much more complex than this, "centrists" are forced to chameleon themselves to suit whoever they're talking to by posing as whatever is in opposition to the stance they're trying to criticize.

sarg'n could just adopt a specific stance that actually describes their worldview and then argue from that set of positions but that would require him to actually commit to something beyond "triggering people" like it's 2015

 

[Grand Lunar]

Well, looks like Sargon caved to the demands of certain UKIP reps and will politely self censor with the phrase "the N word" from now on like a good boy. But how will the free speech movement ever survive without such an important edgy boi to troll those SJWs?

 

[Carcinogenesis]

Well, looks like Sargon caved to the demands of certain UKIP reps and will politely self censor with the phrase "the N word" from now on like a good boy. But how will the free speech movement ever survive without such an important edgy boi to troll those SJWs?

And yet he told everyone on The Weekend Chimpout how he'll keep being an edgelord who talks about white niggers. He practically doubled down on those comments.

 

[Grand Lunar]

I actually didn't know that Sargon had glasses. Learn something new everyday, but I am a bit surprised that he doesn't wear them more often to try and appear smarter.
(source: https://youtu.be/jo__86W6mxI?t=1s)

 

[Burning Fanatic]

Guys, Sargon is a libertarian when arguing against people more statist than him and a social democrat when arguing against people more right wing than him, a chauvinist when arguing against progressives and a universalist when arguing against the altright.

So a political chameleon of sorts?

 

[Lysol]

Well, looks like Sargon caved to the demands of certain UKIP reps and will politely self censor with the phrase "the N word" from now on like a good boy. But how will the free speech movement ever survive without such an important edgy boi to troll those SJWs?

Real bang-up job he did there with the whole "infiltrate and co-opt" plan, huh.

So a political chameleon of sorts?

Less like a chameleon, more like somebody wearing one of those camouflage shirts that say "You can't see me!" on the front.

 

[Hierophantis]

So a political chameleon of sorts?

more just an opportunist. It's easy to criticize things, and this lets him always critique other people's ideas by selecting the kinds of issues they dont concern themselves with

 

[TheMayorofHerbertville]

people are still posting in this thread? Seriously?! I think its time we close this thread. Sargon has been through enough and hes earned our admiration and respect for years to come. Time to close this thread down.

 

[Pikimon]

people are still posting in this thread? Seriously?! I think its time we close this thread. Sargon has been through enough and hes earned our admiration and respect for years to come. Time to close this thread down.

Sargon is fat which means that he's automatically a lolcow

 

[killmeme]

people are still posting in this thread? Seriously?! I think its time we close this thread. Sargon has been through enough and hes earned our admiration and respect for years to come. Time to close this thread down.

'Our admiration'? And for what.

 

[vhstape]

people are still posting in this thread? Seriously?! I think its time we close this thread. Sargon has been through enough and hes earned our admiration and respect for years to come. Time to close this thread down.

only thing that needs to be closed is that poll, very clear he is a big old lolcow by now

 

[Esgee]

Q: "How do you point out Jewish Identity groups without engaging in what would be considered identity politics?"

Sargon: "Jews have to give up identity politics."

Nazi status = CONFIRMED.