10/9/14 - Chris owes Ebay money; wants cash only for the BMW

[warongiygas]

Another thought I've had recently. I believe it's the FBI who actually investigates large sums of money coming into and out of banks. I thought it was somewhere between $8,000-10K that if you suddenly got into a bank account they'd flag you and investigate to make sure you weren't doing anything illegal.

Even if OPL actually got someone ween or stupid enough to buy the car, then the funds would still be frozen temporarily while it's investigated. That's all we'd need is his unholy 3/4 lesbianness raging about the feds!

Kind of off-topic, but deposits of more than $10, 000 are flagged (not frozen) by the bank because of potential tax fraud. That's why they didn't catch Kent Hovind right away.

But anyway, I really don't think Chris will ever even see $10, 000.

 

[Stud2Stud]

Any consideration for payments he'll have to make in the future are overwhelmed by autism and an overwhelming impulse for immediate gratification.

I'm far from understanding the mind of an autistic person such as OPL, but I really would love to understand what went wrong. I mean, Chris seems to be entirely unable to understand the impact of his behaviour on others' opinion about him, which his quite obviously his autism at work, but does this also make him unable to understand the concept of "There is something I will have to pay in the future, so I shouldn't spend all my money on stuff right now"? This is, like, the third time he was blindsided by some random payment that came as a surprise to nobody but him.

I just wonder how many more times we will witness this same song and dance in the future...

 

[Coldgrip]

It's a combination of untreated autism, unchecked ego, and shitty parenting. With each of those things exacerbating the other problems he has.

 

[Himawari]

Kind of off-topic, but deposits of more than $10, 000 are flagged (not frozen) by the bank because of potential tax fraud. That's why they didn't catch Kent Hovind right away.

But anyway, I really don't think Chris will ever even see $10, 000.

$10,000 in currency - checks are fair game, I actually just processed a check deposit of over 17K without triggering the report. There can be an extended hold on check deposits over a certain amount, but it's not anything that gets reported to the US Treasury.

I'm not sure how specific I'm allowed to get when talking about this stuff, but yes, $10K is the limit for cash transactions. Anything over that and we're immediately prompted to file a report with FinCEN.

Even if the Chandlers were to break up their $15K cash deposit (the one that will never exist) over multiple days, they'd very likely still have a different report filed on them for suspicious activity.

 

[ON 190]

I just wonder how many more times we will witness this same song and dance in the future...

Until the heat-death of the universe, my friend. If there's anything that can rival entropy, it's The 'Tism.

 

[Thetan]

Wasn't Chris supposed to be taking a break after making those medallions?

It's entirely possible that Barb is seeing the medallions as a viable source of income and she's leaning on Chris to produce more.

 

[Anchuent Christory]

Didn't they already purchase the new cars with the money they are assuming they'll get from the old ones?

Possibly, but I also think Chris just assumes that people buying Ebay stuff from him will continue indefinitely, so there's always going to be cash flowing into his account.

 

[SuperJ]

Why is everyone assuming that they would deposit the money in a bank? Assuming that they were to somehow get $15K (now entering the same fantasy land that the Chandlers live in) for the car, if they were to then deposit said $15K into the bank, they would only have themselves to blame for the eventual Federal banhammer. That's as idiotic as declaring money won from a bookie. Maybe I'm giving Barb too much credit, but even her tenuous grasp on reality would keep her from making such an asinine cash deposit...right?

 

[DeadMansHand]

I'm far from understanding the mind of an autistic person such as OPL, but I really would love to understand what went wrong. I mean, Chris seems to be entirely unable to understand the impact of his behaviour on others' opinion about him, which his quite obviously his autism at work, but does this also make him unable to understand the concept of "There is something I will have to pay in the future, so I shouldn't spend all my money on stuff right now"? This is, like, the third time he was blindsided by some random payment that came as a surprise to nobody but him.

Chris and Barb don't seem to understand (or simply ignore) the fact that his sales aren't going to remain at whatever level they're at currently. So he uses money from PayPal (or Barb takes it) fully expecting more orders to come in. When they don't, he panics and starts Facebook begging.

It's more likely that Barb grabbed some of the Paypal cash and left Chris holding the bag. Because she needs cash for mysterious barbage expeditions, Anbesol, and delicious soft .

I just wonder how many more times we will witness this same song and dance in the future...

It'll happen over and over again until Chris stops selling on Ebay, or all Barbs teeth fall out and no one can understand what she's yelling about anymore.

 

[Thetan]

Not trying to wander too far OT here, but I'd like to point out that ebay offers a number of sellers guides that explain the basics of selling, including managing funds (and putting enough aside to cover fees and postage). These guides can be found via a simple search.

It would be nice if one of the people that Chris actually listens to would point this out to him. These people always seem to turn up to give him useless ass-pats, but when he could actually benefit from some good advice they're nowhere to be found.

 

[Himawari]

Why is everyone assuming that they would deposit the money in a bank? Assuming that they were to somehow get $15K (now entering the same fantasy land that the Chandlers live in) for the car, if they were to then deposit said $15K into the bank, they would only have themselves to blame for the eventual Federal banhammer. That's as idiotic as declaring money won from a bookie. Maybe I'm giving Barb too much credit, but even her tenuous grasp on reality would keep her from making such an asinine cash deposit...right?

Well, that depends. If they have an automatic bill pay system set up that automatically deducts from their bank account then they're gonna need at least some of that cash deposited. It will definitely be needed for Chris' eBay fees, it's not like he can just go up to their doors and hand them a wad of cash.

 

[MrsFrizzle]

I love that we're talking about the possibility that someone might give them $15,000 in cash for that car. We might as well be talking about what would happen if Chris magically gave birth to a unicorn baby.

 

[Slush]

So Chris' solution to high eBay seller fees is to rack up more seller fees by selling his drawings?

Because we all know that even if he did sell a drawing or two, he wouldn't save money from that sale for those seller fees, and the cycle will continue like a horrendous ouroboros.

If he sold $300 in drawings to cover the $300 eBay bill, he would only have to pay $30 in fees at the end of the next selling period. That would buy enough time for the tugboat to come in.

Still, he's an idiot for not putting the $300 aside to begin with. SMH.

 

[Kacho]

I love that we're talking about the possibility that someone might give them $15,000 in cash for that car. We might as well be talking about what would happen if Chris magically gave birth to a unicorn baby.

Or a bear.

 

[Stud2Stud]

Not trying to wander too far OT here, but I'd like to point out that ebay offers a number of sellers guides that explain the basics of selling, including managing funds (and putting enough aside to cover fees and postage). These guides can be found via a simple search.

Well, that's what I was wondering about earlier. Does he simply forget these fees or does he think they do not apply to him due to the autism or is he just silly enough to not care about them? In which case no guide will help him. Especially since the concepts of "Hey, I do need money to ship these things" and "Oh wait, Ebay wants some fees in the future" shouldn't be all that alien to Chris. At least I thought so. Someone brought up he might just think he is going to continually sell products so he can spend all his money now since in due time, there will be a new influx of money and he always just asks for money if this dream fails. I do not think so, I get the feeling while Chris does indeed expect more sales, he still completely ignores costs in the future for whatever reason, be it autism or else.

It would be nice if one of the people that Chris actually listens to would point this out to him. These people always seem to turn up to give him useless ass-pats, but when he could actually benefit from some good advice they're nowhere to be found.

I'm wondering the same thing, but to be fair, we know how Chris usually reacts to well-meant advice. No matter how direly he needs it, he's quick to disregard it, calling you out for crossing the truthful hurt line or whatever the term was.

 

[Mr. Troll12345]

When you think of it, was it really necesarry for Chris to get a BMW instead of a regular and more affordable used car?

 

[Stud2Stud]

When you think of it, was it really necesarry for Chris to get a BMW instead of a regular and more affordable used car?

Chris recently got a 2010 Ford Focus. The BMW was Bobs car and they owned it for godbear knows how long.

 

[Butterballs]

Well, that's what I was wondering about earlier. Does he simply forget these fees or does he think they do not apply to him due to the autism or is he just silly enough to not care about them?

It's a throw between he keeps forgetting about the fees, and he expects there to be a constant, steady stream of money in his Paypal account. Either way, he/Barb feels comfortable spending it all as soon as it arrives.

Like, mostly I think he just keeps terrible track of the dates when bills are due but when he's reminded I think he just expects to be able to pay them with future eBay money, rather than keeping a portion of it bye for the fees.

 

[NiggoFiggo]

Damn I always thought ebay took thier slice out time you made the sale. I never used ebay but Im pretty sure they probably had a page or 2 about it but we all know chris doesnt have time to read fine print. Or he was planning to use future sales to pay the old sales and continue the cycle, which would be stupid but this is chris sooooooooo

 

[_blank_]

Wow, Chris must be using his money fast. Dude makes 3k in a month and already doesn't have enough to pay off a $300 bill. I'd like to believe that might be because he was so adamant about paying off other deals... but that bit of optimism died the first go-round when Chris made 2k and blew half of it on anime and toys.

Funny thing is, I was hoping that Chris might've learned his lesson with his medallions vs. his drawings: more people are interested in paying to smaller, cheaper items (aka, a $30 medallion) instead of blowing up their bank accounts for one novelty item (aka his $150-$200 drawings). This is meant towards his BMW- instead of trying to make all of his money off of the chance that Mr. Moneybags would be coming along and be willing to fork over five times the amount for that car than what it's worth, it would be wiser to try and Craigslist/Ebay smaller items like his games collection or... whatever he and Barb salvaged from 14BLC... at reasonable prices.

So yeah, it's Chris. I'm basically just writing this shit out to work out simply saying, "God dammit, Chris. Again?!"