Norm Macdonald has a show

God I love Norm. I hope it follows the format of his podcast, where basically Norm farts around with funny people and just talks about whatever bullshit he feels like, and when he has an unfunny guest he just fucks with them and makes them uncomfortable. The Gilbert Godfrey episode was so goddam funny.
 
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Ted_Breakfast said:
God I love Norm. I hope it follows the format of his podcast, where basically Norm farts around with funny people and just talks about whatever bullshit he feels like, and when he has an unfunny guest he just fucks with them and makes them uncomfortable. The Gilbert Godfrey episode was so goddam funny.
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Ah man, I never saw that one and the episode (along with all episodes of the show) has been deleted from the YT channel.
 
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he's in their cross hairs :(

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https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a23084063/norm-macdonald-defends-louis-ck-roseanne-barr/

Norm Macdonald has a new show; it's called, quite simply, Norm Macdonald Has a Show and it premieres September 14 on Netflix. Macdonald is also doing a lot of press for the new series, which is the streaming service's latest attempt at a late-night program. And naturally, with the world being the way it is—and with comedy as a whole trying to tackle the complications of our current culture wars, from Trumpian mania to the #MeToo movement—Macdonald has a lot of thoughts about some spicy hot topics. And that's fine. He's a comedian with a talk show, and that's his job.

And it's in a new interview with The Hollywood Reporter that Macdonald has aired a few of those controversial thoughts, namely about two of his controversial friends: Louis C.K. and Roseanne Barr. I don't need to give you much background here: Louis C.K. publicly admitted to sexually harassing female comedians; Roseanne Barr tweeted a racist comment about former Obama advisor Valerie Jarrett, which led to the cancellation of the Roseannereboot and launch a second reboot (watch The Conners this fall on ABC!) without the show's creator and star.

Macdonald has a personal connection to both of these comedians beyond just being professional peers; C.K. wrote the forward to his memoir, and Barr gave him his first TV writing job on the original iteration of Roseanne. So, naturally, Macdonald put his two publicly disgraced friends in touch as they faced personal and professional implosion:

Roseanne was so broken up [after her show's reboot was cancelled] that I got Louis to call her, even though Roseanne was very hard on Louis before that. But she was just so broken and just crying constantly. There are very few people that have gone through what they have, losing everything in a day. Of course, people will go, "What about the victims?" But you know what? The victims didn't have to go through that.
Hm.

Here's the thing: I'm not even mad, or annoyed, or surprised that Macdonald is defending C.K. and Barr. I feel like I'm supposed to be upset by the notion that their victims (specifically C.K.'s victims, as Barr never really harassed anyone, and Valerie Jarrett herself said she wasn't bothered) haven't gone through the hurt and pain that they face. I mean, it's fundamentally untrue, particularly in C.K.'s case; he literally assaulted women, which is still a controversial thing to say if my Twitter mentions tell me anything. (Many men disagree with me! And most anonymous dudes with cartoon avatars will probably see this post and tell me to kill myself or whatever.) Victims of sexual harassment and assault—even if it's something like being locked in a hotel room and forced to watch a man masturbate, which a lot of monstrous people think is not that big of a deal—have to live with that trauma forever. In the case of the women C.K. harassed, they spent nearly 15 years thinking about it while C.K. denied the stories publicly as simple gossip; he came out of his little nine-month comedy exile last month to perform at the Comedy Cellar, and the backlash was swift (and, I believe, justified).

But I digress.

You see, I am not mad at Norm Macdonald. I disagree with him, but I see what he's doing. He's a comedian, someone who pushes buttons and creates conversations; he also has some dear friends who fucked up and faced consequences for their fuck ups. We're in a weird time, surely, when we're enforcing punishments socially instead of legally—mostly because in the vast cases of sexual harassment, misconduct, and assault, the legal system doesn't actually function to protect victims and punish abusers. (Once again: Go ahead and tell me on Twitter that I'm wrong if you feel that way.)

But I have a job, too, just like Norm Macdonald, which is why I'm writing this. It's not because I want to. If it were up to me, I'd be writing about a lot of other things that didn't involve the subjects of sexual harassment and racism in the entertainment industry (and in the world at large). Oh, would I have the opportunity to instead write about something that Norm Macdonald did two decades ago that I enjoyed. (For example: his Burt Reynolds impression on SNL! That was funny. Or the David Letterman one. I still say "Uhh, ya got any gum?" and chuckle to myself.)

Norm Macdonald can be funny, and he can also be wrong. And that's fine. He's got a platform to say something, and so do many other people (including myself, and so do all of the strangers on the Internet who call me names when they disagree with me). But let's be honest here. Louis C.K. and Roseanne Barr are two wealthy people. They would likely receive second chances if they actually put forth effort to understand why many people believe what they did was wrong. Louis C.K hasn't done that; he essentially took a vacation. Roseanne Barr hasn't done it either; she has cried and yelled and gone on television to talk about her free speech being taken away (it wasn't) and claimed she's not a racist.

Second chances are earned! Even Norm Macdonald must believe that. And while his famous friends are having a shitty year, they haven't, as he suggests, "[lost] everything in a day." You can watch episodes of Louie and Roseanne on Amazon, Google Play, iTunes, Vudu, and YouTube (and many of C.K.'s specials on Netflix). You can pay for them, meaning C.K. and Barr make a little bit of money, too. Or you could instead be mad about what another famous person has said in an interview, or be mad at me. Up to you!

In the meantime, there are a lot of people making comedy—Norm Macdonald included—that fill in the gaps left open by these two ousted comics. Maybe instead of looking back and arguing over what will (or should) happen to them, we can put our focus to the countless other voices who are making efforts to move on and move forward.
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http://www.vulture.com/2018/09/norm-macdonald-defends-c-k-hardwick-roseanne-in-interview.html

Ahead of the premiere of his Netflix series Norm Macdonald Has a Show, Macdonald recently sat down for an interview with The Hollywood Reporter, and it’s jam-packed with the comedian’s thoughts on hot-button issues like Louis C.K., Roseanne Barr, Chris Hardwick, Hannah Gadsby and Nanette, Michael Che and Nanette, Jimmy Fallon’s infamous Trump interview, and #MeToo. It’s quite a doozy, but probably the biggest thing Macdonald reveals is that after ABC canceled Roseanne, Macdonald convinced C.K. to give Barr a call.

“She was just so broken and crying constantly,” Macdonald said. “There are very few people that have gone through what they have, losing everything in a day. Of course, people will go, ‘What about the victims?’ But you know what? The victims didn’t have to go through that.” As for what C.K. and Barr talked about during their call, Macdonald said they “were just giving any advice you could give to each other. There would be no way for me to even understand that advice, because who has ever gone through such a thing?”

When asked about the #MeToo movement, Macdonald brought up Chris Hardwick: “It used to be, ‘One hundred women can’t be lying.’ And then it became, ‘One woman can’t lie.’ And that became, ‘I believe all women.’ And then you’re like, ‘What?’ Like, that Chris Hardwick guy I really thought got the blunt end of the stick there,” he said. “The model used to be admit wrongdoing, show complete contrition, and then we give you a second chance. Now it’s admit wrongdoing and you’re finished. And so the only way to survive is to deny, deny, deny. That’s not healthy — that there is no forgiveness. I do think that at some point it will end with a completely innocent person of prominence sticking a gun in his head and ending it.”

Macdonald also waded into the debate over Hannah Gadsby’s Netflix special Nanette and Michael Che’s argument that it has brought about a trend he called “standup tragedy,” which isn’t stand-up at all. “I have never seen the Nanette thing because I never wanted to comment on it. But from what I have read about it, [Gadsby] is saying that comedy is now not about laughter,” Macdonald said. “And of course that’s a slap in the face of a traditional stand-up comedian who thinks that comedy by dictionary definition is about laughter … Nanette doesn’t sound like stand-up to me. That sounds like a one-woman show. And one-person shows are to me incredibly powerful. But it’s not stand-up comedy and it’s not the same thing.”

Head over to THR to read the full interview.
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BrunoMattei said:
Ah man, I never saw that one and the episode (along with all episodes of the show) has been deleted from the YT channel.
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Here you go. The Gilbert Gottfried episodes are linked below with the full channel as the last link. The channel seems to have most of the Norm Macdonald Live episodes amongst Norm's appearances elsewhere. Trying to sort them is a bit abysmal, but seeing as Netflix has been claiming any re-uploads to Youtube, this hasn't been a bad option to be able to watch Norm's old episodes.

https://d.tube/#!/v/ivans2/5d396u7n

https://d.tube/#!/v/ivans2/iuxpz8n2

https://d.tube/#!/c/ivans2
 
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yawning sneasel said:
Everyone he's interviewing is old and irrelevant. It'll be funny but no one will watch it.
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So it will be like Norm's other shows.

Too bad. He was the third best Weekend Update guy, after only Chevy Chase and Dennis Miller.

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Norm is perhaps the most middle of the road person, for them to be shrieking at him only proves there’s absolutely no point in moderating your stance.
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Or better yet, just talk to sane people, not crazies.
 
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