Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Creep3r]

Am I missing something or is this libertarians / economic conservatives, and in no way, shape, or form reflective of any platform the Democratic Party has held going back several decades at the very least?

You expect authors to do their research? Also most of that was how wookieepedia describes the Populists based on their actions from the book which the author herself probably didn't realize. Claudia Gray (the author) was also said to have been one of the creators of Holdo. So take that as you will.

"She's somebody who's a bit off-kilter, who sees the world through a prism most others don't understand. At first Leia thinks she's pleasant but weird, but as time goes on, it becomes apparent that there's much more to Holdo than you might guess when you first met her. We don't really have a lot of true oddballs in Star Wars, so it was fun to introduce one!"
―Claudia Gray, on Amilyn Holdo[src]

Holdo's appearance in Leia, Princess of Alderaan (also by Claudia) was received positively, with some readers comparing her to the character Luna Lovegood from Harry Potter.

Holdo confirmed for assburgers?

 

[mrdk_04]

Were those the same novels that introduced "Centrists" as a villain faction in Star Wars? Seriously, are all the new authors cut from the same cloth of hippie mediocrity as Chuck Wendig?

Can somebody compile a list of Chuck's wrongdoings and general stupidity?

I really don't understand why people involved in major parts of a big franchise can't just keep their mouth shut and not engage with negative attention whatsoever.
You're attacking a portion of your (potential) customers and spreading negative vibes.
I am convinced it has to do with extremely simplistic anglo politics, as I barely see it outside of that geosphere.
It's as if these people have never heard the most important adage of the internet: "Don't take the bait.".
They can't help but engage, diss and subsequently receive likes from their devotees, all in public no less.

A good example of how to handle such online presence would be Justin Roiland's twitter.
The man doesn't post daily, relates his tweets to his projects/work/events/POI, most tweets are accompanied by a file, he doesn't engage his own comment section, barely retweets & when he does he post a simple message,
merely expressing general emotions for people he admires and/or works with.
When Dan Harmon's twitter was still up, it was such an interesting case study of both approaches,
as they are both creators of the same show.

 

[Creep3r]

Can somebody compile a list of Chuck's wrongdoings and general stupidity?

I really don't understand why people involved in major parts of a big franchise can't just keep their mouth shut and not engage with negative attention whatsoever.
You're attacking a portion of your (potential) customers and spreading negative vibes.
I am convinced it has to do with extremely simplistic anglo politics, as I barely see it outside of that geosphere.
It's as if these people have never heard the most important adage of the internet: "Don't take the bait.".
They can't help but engage, diss and subsequently receive likes from their devotees, all in public no less.

A good example of how to handle such online presence would be Justin Roiland's twitter.
The man doesn't post daily, relates his tweets to his projects/work/events/POI, most tweets are accompanied by a file, he doesn't engage his own comment section, barely retweets & when he does he post a simple message,
merely expressing general emotions for people he admires and/or works with.
When Dan Harmon's twitter was still up, it was such an interesting case study of both approaches,
as they are both creators of the same show.

I think Chuck is more than exceptional enough to deserve his own lolcow thread, but I frankly wouldn't know where to start and mainly I'm just too lazy to do it since it would require compiling all his best tweets, history, screenshots of countless pages from all of his books and bigger walls of text than I'm used to. Basically being a lolcow farmer is delicate work that requires rearing and dedication in order to produce high quality milk.

But if anyone wants to start one up of him. Here's some pics:

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

I think Chuck is more than exceptional enough to deserve his own lolcow thread, but I frankly wouldn't know where to start and mainly I'm just too lazy to do it since it would require compiling all his best tweets, history, screenshots of countless pages from all of his books and bigger walls of text than I'm used to. Basically being a lolcow farmer is delicate work that requires rearing and dedication in order to produce high quality tard cum.

But if anyone wants to start one up of him. Here's some pics:

Well, if you had told me there's a guy with a more punchable face than Dobson's bearsona, I would have not believed you up till a few moments ago.

 

[Flexo]

 

[Tookie]

According to those who enjoyed novels like Wendig's shit and Bloodline, Centrists are actually supposed to be a stand-in for Republicans and "Populists" (the opposing political party) are Democrats.

Which is even more confusing since the New Republic turns out to be a decentralized, militarily weak, and incompetent EU-style organization that gets butt-fucked out of existence before even being shown on screen.

 

[RumblyTumbly]

All I've ever read from Chuck Wendig is the Star Wars Aftermath trilogy, which was pretty awful. The first book was particularly messy.

The structure of the book was so strange. He had a main story running throughout the novel, but then it would get interrupted with these "interludes" to show how the rest of the galaxy was reacting to the fall of the Empire. It was so jarring to have the story interrupted that I wasn't even sure what was important. It was a perfect case of wanting to have his cake and eat it too because it isn't a well structured narrative throughout, but it isn't an anthology series of stories either, so it just reads like a mess.

Its one of the worst Star Wars novel trilogies I've ever read.

 

[Creep3r]

Its one of the worst Star Wars novel trilogies I've ever read.

Yet many critics tried to avoid bashing it too hard after Chuck sperged out on Twitter labeling anyone who hated his book as a sexist bigot since he was "brave enough" to put women, minorities, LGBTBBQ, etc in lead roles within a "close-minded" franchise like Star Wars, which led to a rise in white knights and journos to shut down criticism and what probably led to so many refusing to review the books that came out after the first one since its so easy for scum like Wendig to ruin reputations with twitter crap like that. http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2015/09/07/star-wars-aftermath-reviews-news-and-such/

 

[RumblyTumbly]

Yet many critics tried to avoid bashing it too hard after Chuck sperged out on Twitter labeling anyone who hated his book as a sexist bigot since he was "brave enough" to put women, minorities, LGBTBBQ, etc in lead roles within a "close-minded" franchise like Star Wars, which led to a rise in white knights and journos to shut down criticism and what probably lead to so many refusing to review the books that came out after the first one since its so easy for scum like Wendig to ruin reputations with twitter crap like that. http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2015/09/07/star-wars-aftermath-reviews-news-and-such/

LOL.

Yeah, don't you just love how women, minorities, and LGBTQ+ characters are used as shields from criticism? The biggest joke is that I can't remember any of the characters names, including the gay ones, so, yeah, you failed Mr. Wendig.

Isn't that kind of demeaning? Oh yeah all you women, minorities, and gays, we'll make characters that look like you and act like you just so we can get away with writing something crappy and propping it up as progressive and meaningful.

I like to judge things based on quality, not whether or not it ticks off a full checklist of your identity politics requirements. Sorry, not sorry.

And hey, all non-cis-white straight males...you're being had! These people are manipulating you into liking something and giving it praise. A majority of the stories that have these characters in it are poorly written and terrible, but they are using you to shield themselves from the critics. You're being used as tools. All of you! Get woke...but like, ya know, for real this time.

 

[Your Weird Fetish]

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Padmé was horrible at her job and a very weak character.

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

The structure of the book was so strange. He had a main story running throughout the novel, but then it would get interrupted with these "interludes" to show how the rest of the galaxy was reacting to the fall of the Empire.

The same thing happens in Star Wars Ahsoka. To start the novel and after every fifth chapter, there are interstitial passages that cover other characters' points of views on different past events. Similar to the story you mentioned, I found this a distraction from Ahsoka's main story to the point I questioned the purpose of theses passages because little of the content - if any - directly related to the main story.

If i didn't know better, I'd say this sounds like the cookie cutter story format for all the novels being released under Disney's ownership of Star Wars.

 

[Sumdood]

It's explained in the novels and whatnot, because some idiot at Disney thought something that central to the setting wouldn't need to be addressed in the movies.

Essentially 5 years post-ROTJ the Empire surrenders, the New Republic is established, and the remaining imperial loyalists flee to the Outer Rim. The politicians leading the New Republic immediately demilitarize to differentiate themselves from the Empire and focus on rebuilding the Galaxy. The First Order grows over time, but the political leadership is too traumatized over the civil war to be willing to address the issue militarily. So Leia (who has the Churchillian role of being the politician screaming about the threat a rising dictator poses but no one will listen) funds her own paramilitary group to go sabotage First Order mobilization efforts, and that's the Resistance.

It's basically the inter-world war period if that period was overseen by exceptional hippies and Churchill conducting mercenary activity to sabotage Hitler was an open secret. And then, after Hitler blew up 4 Allied cities, they still didn't declare war.

Which is something that could be in a Star Wars movie, but the problem is that movie is the Holiday Special.

Geez, all that explanation does is open up more questions. Why not disband but keep a defense force for yourselves? Why not keep an at-call militia and all the hardware for times of need? Why not keep your badass military and just, oh I don’t know, NOT abuse the power maybe? The old republic didn’t have an army but that’s because they had fucking Jedi. That’s so fucking dumb.

But on the plus side, at least the name of the resistance makes 9% more sense

 

[BScCollateral]

The idea of a republic or democracy letting its military go to pieces in peacetime is ... well, there's precedent, so I'll go with it.

 

[Kyria the Great]

The idea of a republic or democracy letting its military go to pieces in peacetime is ... well, there's precedent, so I'll go with it.

Though disbanding an army is complete retarded

 

[BScCollateral]

Though disbanding an army is complete exceptional

The exceptionalism might be mitigated by the fact the standing Republic Army was founded by Palpatine. I could imagine a strong Republic army being a bit unpopular after the Civil War.

Right now, I don't believe Germany has any fighter aircraft able to sortie with NATO because of radio problems. The Royal Navy is out of missiles.

Of course, Europe can afford to be irresponsible and sponge off foreigners, but it's plausible the Republic's military might fall apart, because the Republic really, really sucks.

 

[Kyria the Great]

The exceptionalism might be mitigated by the fact the standing Republic Army was founded by Palpatine. I could imagine a strong Republic army being a bit unpopular after the Civil War.

Right now, I don't believe Germany has any fighter aircraft able to sortie with NATO because of radio problems. The Royal Navy is out of missiles.

Of course, Europe can afford to be irresponsible and sponge off foreigners, but it's plausible the Republic's military might fall apart, because the Republic really, really sucks.

Well even a token military force to instill basic military forces by each contributing planet, basic shit

 

[BScCollateral]

Hell, let's roll with it.

Have Leia in the Senate making a speech about the sorry state of the Republic's military and reminding everyone the First Order's forces are growing. Her opponent in the debate says "She sounds like her father."

 

[Elwood P. Dowd]

If i didn't know better, I'd say this sounds like the cookie cutter story format for all the novels being released under Disney's ownership of Star Wars.

Much to my surprise I'm kind of liking the Phasma novel. Very gimmicky narrative, but for all that it kind of works.

 

[WaltherPPGAY]

The same thing happens in Star Wars Ahsoka. To start the novel and after every fifth chapter, there are interstitial passages that cover other characters' points of views on different past events. Similar to the story you mentioned, I found this a distraction from Ahsoka's main story to the point I questioned the purpose of theses passages because little of the content - if any - directly related to the main story.

If i didn't know better, I'd say this sounds like the cookie cutter story format for all the novels being released under Disney's ownership of Star Wars.

It's something that Game of Thrones and other fantasy mainstays like Brandon Sanderson do quite a bit, so I would imagine it's just cheap imitation of said books to make them feel epic.

 

[Creep3r]

It's something that Game of Thrones and other fantasy mainstays like Brandon Sanderson do quite a bit, so I would imagine it's just cheap imitation of said books to make them feel epic.

This. Most of the "praise" nu-authors like Wendig got was from people comparing his books to Game of Thrones as though that somehow makes them good, and it's obvious he and so many other modern authors are trying their damnedest to just copycat the writing style of "trending books" rather than actually being inspired by other authors or relying on their own writing skill and (non-existent) creativity. And you can't trust modern book critics to call them out since its pretty much the same for all reviews concerning new books. It's either "Wow! Its just like Game of Thrones!" or "Wow! Its just like Harry Potter!" as though that's all anyone has ever read in this day and age (along with Ready Player One). Fuck. We've got critics who've never read anything outside of Rowling and Martin and hack authors who just copy big selling books and wing the rest with memes.