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"How many levels of Polyamory are you on"
"I don't know, 1 or 2?"
"You are like baby, watch this".

https://old.reddit.com/r/polyamory/comments/9f141f/our_current_poly_constellation_38_interconnected/

OP saves future STD epidemiologists some work with a handy graph

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swinger-in-denial has an ounce of sense; is ashamed

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"i'll start the wiki!"

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https://archive.is/ACazD
 
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swinger-in-denial has an ounce of sense; is ashamed
Cptsd, autism, depression, being an asshole, and being LOW ENERGY. Is buttmad they can’t get more poly action. These people.

The chart itself is more like “hey somebody I fuck fucked somebody else or knows somebody online who fucks other people.” There should be a website to track stuff like this. Maybe call it Eskmo.
 
Cptsd, autism, depression, being an asshole, and being LOW ENERGY. Is buttmad they can’t get more poly action. These people.

The chart itself is more like “hey somebody I fuck fucked somebody else or knows somebody online who fucks other people.” There should be a website to track stuff like this. Maybe call it Eskmo.

More depressingly, the alleged minimum level for entry on the "Map" is "boyfriend" status or higher.
 
My husband is a fetishist
Aka husband was a virgin when they married and claims to be asexual because he loves buttplugs more than his wife.
So I'll get right in to it: I've been married for seven years, and in that time we have never been monogamous. I think part of my reticence to try monogamy at all was that:

  • we married young (both early early 20s) because we were from different countries and it made things easier
  • he was essentially a virgin when we married, but had some strange sexual proclivities (rubber fetishism, collars, buttplugs)
  • we are both bisexual
I really think my husband is an awesome guy and I love who he is as a person. We get along and have similar goals. Over time, however, I've had more and more of a feeling of physical revulsion when he tries to touch me. There are a few reasons for this, but I think I've been a bit of a frog in boiling water, and things have finally boiled over.

  • when we did have sex more often, he always wanted to have "gear" on: whether it's latex clothing, or a collar. When we have had conversations about taking some of this out of the bedroom occasionally, he initially breaks down and agrees, but then it starts to creep back in: with or without my consent.
  • he makes very effeminate sounds during sex and he likes to take a submissive role. I wouldn't mind power playing but the fact that he is always submissive actively turns me off.
  • he has had a number of homosexual encounters and this does not turn me on in any way. When he talks about them it turns me off. Before anyone says "oh he's just gay," I'll correct you and say "he's a fetishist": the gender of his sex partner matters a lot less than the gear.
  • he never really shows interest in my body: he gets excited and has a high sex drive, but doesn't know how to turn me on. If he does engage in foreplay, it's pretty rote and doesn't really show any knowledge of my anatomy or responses. If he is going down on me, it has to be accompanied by some roleplay about him being submissive, or fetish gear
  • he has never said my name, or told me he loved me during sex. To him, sex is something "dirty."
  • I find myself recoiling involuntarily if he tries to kiss my neck or spoon me because I am afraid it will lead to him wanting me to have sex. Often having sex with him has meant things like me putting on a rubber glove and stimulating him anally, which doesn't turn me on at all (in fact it actively turns me off). He gets excited about any kind of sex regardless, but clearly he wants these things.
Over the past three years I've also had a boyfriend, who was a longterm friend before we started dating. The sex with the boyfriend is amazing: we really connect emotionally, he engages in a lot of foreplay and puts my pleasure first. He even gets harder and more excited when I tell him I love him. I'm really invested in having and keeping that kind of sexual connection: after three years it just keeps getting better.

Now I have two main problems:

  1. since I am finally getting the kind of intimate sex I have been desperately craving, I don't have any desire to indulge my husband sexually whatsoever. I find myself recoiling involuntarily if he tries to kiss my neck or spoon me because I am afraid it will lead to him wanting me to have sex. This involuntary response has been growing for a few years and I finally had to tell my husband I no longer want a sexual relationship, and that I might want a divorce.
  2. right now, my boyfriend wants us to be sexually monogamous and eventually get married because our relationship is the most... comprehensive I would say (we have both the emotional and sexual connection). He doesn't mind that I'm married right now and gets along with my husband very well, but in terms of our "public facing" life where we are not "out" as poly, he wants to be my primary partner. Right now, I'd like to be sexuallymonogamous with him as well.
My question to this sub is this:

I love and care about my husband and I want to support him in getting whatever he wants out of life, but I don't want a sexual relationship with him. Is it worth it to stay together in other ways and encourage him to meet people who share his desires? Do I owe him sex in some way? I feel like I've "done my time" so to speak after years without intimacy as I understand it (although it has been intimacy as he understands it). Does anyone have any experience with managing boundaries and a relationship with someone who has staunch fetishistic desires, when you yourself are quite vanilla?

TL;DR: I'm poly and married. I have been Good, Game, and Giving in doing things that don't turn me on for my fetishist husband, but it's made me feel an almost Pavlovian revulsion. How do I help my husband, but also keep my boyfriend -- who gives me the sex I crave -- happy in the long term.
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Imagine moving every year and having to bring tons of dildos through customs
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So I lightly googled bipolar disorder and polyamory and go figure, im not the only one who thought there would be overlap. Manic episodes of BPD include increased sex drive and making rash decisions without regard to self as well as huge boosts in energy and mood. Sounds a lot like new partner energy. Depressive episodes give us the lack of motivation and sadness we know and love from the poly sub forum.
 
My husband is a fetishist
Aka husband was a virgin when they married and claims to be asexual because he loves buttplugs more than his wife.
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this shit is fetishists.txt. he's not asexual, his porn-addled brain doesn't understand anything that's not masturbation anymore. he's satisfied with nothing but his "fetish objects" because he doesn't understand sex as something that bonds two people; his wife's needs are little more than an obstacle to living an onanistic humiliation fantasy

the running theme with these people is their need to MINDKILL the completely correct intuition that they're dealing with incorrigible, sexually broken partners. she can tell the husband sees her as little more than another butt plug, but to acknowledge that would probably be kinkshaming or some shit...so instead of cutting him out of her life immediately, she wants to do the stupidest possible thing and keep the idiot around to "help" him (i.e. convince herself he's actually capable of recognizing her humanity)
 
this shit is fetishists.txt. he's not asexual, his porn-addled brain doesn't understand anything that's not masturbation anymore. he's satisfied with nothing but his "fetish objects" because he doesn't understand sex as something that bonds two people; his wife's needs are little more than an obstacle to living an onanistic humiliation fantasy

the running theme with these people is their need to MINDKILL the completely correct intuition that they're dealing with incorrigible, sexually broken partners. she can tell the husband sees her as little more than another butt plug, but to acknowledge that would probably be kinkshaming or some shit...so instead of cutting him out of her life immediately, she wants to do the stupidest possible thing and keep the idiot around to "help" him (i.e. convince herself he's actually capable of recognizing her humanity)
I get the feeling she’s going to leave the husband for the boyfriend and they’ll end up a regular monogamous couple. If they’re poly and he’s requesting monogamy and she’s down for it, they’re not poly they were just in unfulfilling relationships beforehand. I hope she can disconnect from the fetishist and go be with the boyfriend. It’s not disturbing like that one commenter said that the boyfriend assumed they’d get married after she left the husband. They’re discussing being in a committed, monogamous relationship and that usually leads to marriage.

Poly ends up protecting people like the husband because to them she’s being a bad partner by not submitting to his needs and never getting hers fulfilled by her husband. My polyshit friend’s boyfriend was like that. She didn’t find the strength to break away though.
 
The "mapkeeper"; Jesus Christ. Everytime one of these 37 other gay dudes nails someone new he has to update the pictograph, I imagine he's going to be busy for a while.

EDIT :

Oh my god this guy is a gold mine.
https://old.reddit.com/r/soylent/comments/5xur2v/happiness_is_a_drawer_full_of_soylent_at_your_desk/
oh man we've had this guy on the thread before where he was doing the soyboy face at the dinner table with a bunch of other dudes, including the guy wearing the blue tshirt in this photo. i said blue tshirt guy is too damn old for this. i am getting the impression that gay poly dudes are somewhat more attractive than straight ones, what do y'all think?
 
The "mapkeeper"; Jesus Christ. Everytime one of these 37 other gay dudes nails someone new he has to update the pictograph, I imagine he's going to be busy for a while.

EDIT :

Oh my god this guy is a gold mine.
https://old.reddit.com/r/soylent/comments/5xur2v/happiness_is_a_drawer_full_of_soylent_at_your_desk/

Bloody hell. Poly soylent devotee sounds like the worst person to try and have a conversation with.

I guess I’m not smart enough to understand how outdated my actualized relationship and human food are.
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/polyamory/comments/9flb6d/married_poly_couple_dead_bedroom_whats_next/ - A thread about a man who apparently doesn't know what a wife is supposed to be and has never heard of a roommate and/or a good friend.

https://www.reddit.com/r/polyamory/comments/9fjvvl/would_you_break_up_with_your_polyamorous_partner/ - Another relationship saved by polyamory.

https://www.reddit.com/r/polyamory/comments/9fjvd1/stressrant/ - A one-time cry for help on the poly boards. (JK it's been an issue for 22 days apparently https://www.reddit.com/r/polyamory/comments/99eltg/depression_and_disappearing/)

https://www.reddit.com/r/polyamory/comments/9fjlye/changing_dynamics_unsure_how_to_proceed/ - A poly redditor is unaware he's being slowly dumped and likely was cheated on. ("I found a new guy I've been thinking about since we've started dating; let's do poly and you should move out").

https://www.reddit.com/r/polyamory/comments/9fiuy6/a_confusing_time_that_needs_assistance/ - Another marriage on the down slope as a wife spends time away from her husband to make out with the Chad level 8 Warrior from the DND club. Also, her husband apparently married her and then started doing for a full year and is the proud owner of this classy-ass tattoo (https://imgur.com/a/gdgdV#xnz74x9)
 
Why even have a relationship for that long if she's not sexually attracted to him?

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But in seriousness, I imagine they got married and then felt trapped in the marriage. It sounds like the other aspects of the marriage were fine save for some sexual comparability and it also sounds like they don't realize you can have a good non-sexual relationship with other people and those people are called good friends.
 
OP saves future STD epidemiologists some work with a handy graph
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In the immortal words of Common Filth, "this is a really complicated way of saying 'all these people have herpes.'"

Though I'm on the fence on how poly this actually is; it seems like there's a couple guys with colons more compromised than Zinnia Jones' (that one in New York, JFC) and everyone else is just gay Eskimo brothers.
 
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