Mystery Science Theater 3000 and Rifftrax

[Devilish Jack o Lantern]

Copy I got was titled "RiffTrax Live - S06E20 - MST3K Reunion.mp4". Various groupings of casts riff bits of stuff, Joel and New Guy take on an industrial short about how there's apparently some money in doing barber work for women and it might be a thing for you barbers to try.

thanks a bunch mate.

 

[Devilish Jack o Lantern]

since I can't see the New MS3TK series because my Netflix isn't in a country that provides the show and my VPNs have not been working for a while now; I would like to know from anyone who has watched the new season what they think and if it's worth watching.

 

[DiscipleOfTheLie]

since I can't see the New MS3TK series because my Netflix isn't in a country that provides the show and my VPNs have not been working for a while now; I would like to know from anyone who has watched the new season what they think and if it's worth watching.

I was extremely hesitant about watching it. I was honestly expecting it to be shit but I'm two episodes in and I'm digging it. It's got it's issues but they are issues that'll be hammered out in time. For how quickly they shot all the footage it's impressive. It's worth at least checking out if you're a fan.

 

[Daisuke Jigen]

I've been a mstie for around 6 years now and my love for the show has only grown. My aunt and uncle are also huge msties, and that's great because its given me something to bond with them over.

I still need to watch the Netflix series. My feelings toward it aren't unique, I've been hesitant and not as excited as you'd expect a fan to be.

 

[XYZpdq]

I finished the first episode.
It's an episode of MST3k.

Kinga Forrester needs to turn up the "mad" by several magnitudes. Other than that it's not bad at all.

Also the new arrangement for the close song is nice. Very EPCOT Center sounding.

 

[Wraith]

There area a lot of movies I just refuse to see. I'm not a Harry Potter fan, and I despise Twilight for reasons. However I use Rifftrax as a way to get myself exposed to these things that I otherwise never would.
My best friend and I went through both series I just mentioned a few weeks ago, only with Rifftrax, and even with their humor, it wasn't easy.

 

[Varg Did Nothing Wrong]

I like the old MST3K, but most Rifftrax'ed films have left me feeling kind of meh. This new MST3K reboot with Joel (the worse of the two hosts) is turbo-meh, to me.

A really unfortunate side effect of MST3K being so popular in the 90's is all the 20-30-something spergs on Youtube / That Guy with the Shitty Pseudonym / and so on, who think they're just as funny as the writing team of MST3K doing riffs on crap and being totally shit at it.

 

[AnOminous]

I like the old MST3K, but most Rifftrax'ed films have left me feeling kind of meh. This new MST3K reboot with Joel (the worse of the two hosts) is turbo-meh, to me.

A really unfortunate side effect of MST3K being so popular in the 90's is all the 20-30-something spergs on Youtube / That Guy with the Shitty Pseudonym / and so on, who think they're just as funny as the writing team of MST3K doing riffs on crap and being totally shit at it.

MST3K was awesome when it was small-time stuff and you realized there were people out there, who somehow got a slot on TV, who were doing what you already did with your friends watching shitty movies, but were better and funnier at it.

I first found out about this shit one Thanksgiving where I was with my brother sharing a hotel room during unused time for an extended family gathering and basically had a couple days to blow, and there was a Turkey Day Marathon of this shit on some station, and we'd bought a couple cases of beer for the whole thing and in the non-extended-family part of it, we just drank constantly and watched this shit that we'd never seen before and had a blast.

Now that every dumbshit autist on the Internet has done their own take on this riffing thing, it almost feels like MST3K is ripping itself off secondhand. It's just impossible to get that same feeling again.

 

[The Nothingness]

MST3K was awesome when it was small-time stuff and you realized there were people out there, who somehow got a slot on TV, who were doing what you already did with your friends watching shitty movies, but were better and funnier at it.
...
Now that every dumbshit autist on the Internet has done their own take on this riffing thing, it almost feels like MST3K is ripping itself off secondhand. It's just impossible to get that same feeling again.

As the quote from Pet Semetary goes, "Sometimes, dead is better."

 

[XYZpdq]

Finally catching up on some of Season 11.
Hitler Coffee was a good invention exchange.

 

[XYZpdq]

Watch some Rifftrax

I can understand disliking Season 11, but suggesting Riff "how fucking lazy can we get" trax?

 

[XYZpdq]

Continuing to blast through Season 11, I finished Carnival Magic. Very good movie for MST3k. Not just bad, but bad in ways movies usually don't think to be.

 

[RumblyTumbly]

The movie selection for the new season on Netflix was unbelievably good. You would think they got through all the crap during a 10 season run, but man did they dig up some gems. We got a Star Wars knock off, some kaiju films, bad fantasy adventure films, a disaster film, and then other stuff that was just down right bizarre like Cry Wilderness and Carnival Magic.

The riffing of the movies was on point and felt true to the spirit of MST3K. The host segments were a mixed bag. Some worked, and some didn't, but then again, the old show was that way too. The main reason I was there was for the movie and the mocking of said movie, so as long as that stuff is on point, then I'm all good.

Probably the hardest thing for me was getting used to the robots new voices, especially Servo. But after a couple episodes, I got used to it.

 

[Commander X]

The riffing in Nu-MST3K felt a little strained at times, and perhaps they could have slowed down the riffs a bit because at times it felt like watching Mystery Fast Talking Theater but they had some great movie choices and some good riffs.

One of my favorite moments was from the lame disaster film Avalanche, where rescue teams manage to compound the disaster just by driving to and from the scene of the avalanche. One of the rescue trucks loses a first aid box:

CROW: That wasn't even caused by the avalanche! They're just completely incompetent!
JONAH: They should change the name of this movie from Avalanche to just General Catastrophe.

Then a police car following the truck swerves to avoid the box left in the middle of a street, loses control, slams into a pedestrian and crashes through a storefront.

TOM: Oh, so now we're seeing collateral deaths from the idea of an avalanche?
CROW: What's next, someone cutting their finger on the newspaper reading about it?

 

[Someone in a Tree]

The recent season felt like the most representative MST3K season as far as the movie selection was concerned. You got monster movies (Reptilicus, Yongary), failed kids movies (Cry Wilderness, Carnival Magic), a Christmas movie, a Hercules movie, old fashioned sci-fi (The Time Travelers, The Land that Time Forgot), and it brought the long overdue disaster movie to the MST3K oeuvre (Avalanche). One of the titles for next year was leaked, and it's one that people have been wanting to see on the show for some time. Without giving it away, Paul Rudd might be excited about its inclusion.

 

[XYZpdq]

he long overdue disaster movie to the MST3K oeuvre

If you need more MST disaster movies they covered City On Fire and SST Deathflight back in KTMA. Far enough into the show's run that all three are in the theater and active the whole movie.

Biggest thing that didn't work for me in Season 11 was the "somebody shows up in a spaceship and talks with the gang" host segments. Without the basic gag of the Hexfield Viewscreen and the forced perspective stuff they lose a lot of the charm.

But yeah with the marching orders going in of "Widescreen and color only" I wasn't sure they'd find good material.

Time Travelers was driving me crazy because I had seen it ten years back and distinctly remembered a different ending from the one on MST3k. There were a few movies on this season I'd already seen.

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

I like the old MST3K, but most Rifftrax'ed films have left me feeling kind of meh. This new MST3K reboot with Joel (the worse of the two hosts) is turbo-meh, to me.

A really unfortunate side effect of MST3K being so popular in the 90's is all the 20-30-something spergs on Youtube / That Guy with the Shitty Pseudonym / and so on, who think they're just as funny as the writing team of MST3K doing riffs on crap and being totally shit at it.

Brad Jones did the best Riffs in my opinion.

 

[Someone in a Tree]

Regarding MST3K's unfortunate impact on the greater Internet reviewer trend, I have often said that most of these people (usually but not exclusively connected to Channel Awesome) know how to play the notes but have no idea how to play the music. Part of the problem is that very few of them seem to understand why MST3K worked. Even when heaping disdain on the movie, the MST3K crew very rarely left the impression that they felt they were above the movie. I don't know if this was a result of their innate Midwestern-ness or just the quality of their writing. Also, looking back, very few of their jokes were dogpiling on how bad the movie was. Unless the movie was constantly finding new ways to fail, that approach would get really old really fast. Most of these The Blank with the Blank posers are smug motherfuckers who find minute ways to say something sucks for twenty minutes before directing you to their Patreon page.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

Any of you guys going to attend the live show tour?

 

[XYZpdq]

Any of you guys going to attend the live show tour?

Thinking about it.
Cheap seats at the stop near me are $40 with an extra $20 for parking so I'm not as enthusiastic as I might otherwise be. Who's on the card? I saw something about Joel on it. Joel/Jonah as a pair did some decent riffing on that anniversary show before Season 11. iirc S11 the bots were puppeted and voiced separately so I'm not sure how well that would transfer to live compared to Trace and Kevin.

I was lucky enough to see one of the This Island Earth shows they did at the first Conventio-Con as the movie's beta test, so I already got "MST live" in a pretty tough-to-top way.