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Chelsea Cain is very butthurt she was thrown out of the comics industry and, while trying to blame Marvel & CG, knows it was her shit comic and work product. Not many of her garbage supporters/SJW/Feminists wanted to buy her shit comic. If there was a market for SJW comics they’d be selling well and CG wouldn’t be effective
I think the bast part about the whole Cain debacle is that, the more she talks and whines and bitches, it's become increasingly more obvious that she wasn't even thrown out of the industry or even Marvel so much that she completely nuked the bridge the second she didn't get her way. She even mentions that Marvel was more than willing to give her another goddamn book when anyone else would've been kicked to the curb for such a lousy work ethic, but because it wasn't this specific "fuck you dad" bullshit #woke book, Marvel is now the devil.

So far I think the most enlightening thing she's said is the quote below. It really paints a clear picture that Marvel truly is run by spineless fags and basically bent over backwards to humor her and cater to her, (probably because she has a history at causing a big stink when she doesn't get her way, like that time she accused her publisher of preventing her book from being on the NYT Best seller list because of misogyny and her broken leg), only for her to throw a massive tantrum when her book started getting panned by the thing Marvel couldn't control: the general public.
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Can't wait to see how she burns Image next when nobody wants to read Bloody Twat Vomit: The Series.
 
I think the bast part about the whole Cain debacle is that, the more she talks and whines and bitches, it's become increasingly more obvious that she wasn't even thrown out of the industry or even Marvel so much that she completely nuked the bridge the second she didn't get her way. She even mentions that Marvel was more than willing to give her another goddamn book when anyone else would've been kicked to the curb for such a lousy work ethic, but because it wasn't this specific "fuck you dad" bullshit #woke book, Marvel is now the devil.

So far I think the most enlightening thing she's said is the quote below. It really paints a clear picture that Marvel truly is run by spineless fags and basically bent over backwards to humor her and cater to her, (probably because she has a history at causing a big stink when she doesn't get her way, like that time she accused her publisher of preventing her book from being on the NYT Best seller list because of misogyny and her broken leg), only for her to throw a massive tantrum when her book started getting panned by the thing Marvel couldn't control: the general public.


Can't wait to see how she burns Image next when nobody wants to read Bloody Twat Vomit: The Series.
I am still trying to figure out why, of all characters, she went with Mockingbird. Was that a Bendis thing or did I miss something?

Anyways, color me surprised that all these YA writers are about as emotionally mature as a teenager. It's kind of disturbing to see a woman Cain's age acting like this but she's not the only one. We probably could have a Community Watch thread just for YA novelists.
 
I think the bast part about the whole Cain debacle is that, the more she talks and whines and bitches, it's become increasingly more obvious that she wasn't even thrown out of the industry or even Marvel so much that she completely nuked the bridge the second she didn't get her way. She even mentions that Marvel was more than willing to give her another goddamn book when anyone else would've been kicked to the curb for such a lousy work ethic, but because it wasn't this specific "fuck you dad" bullshit #woke book, Marvel is now the devil.

So far I think the most enlightening thing she's said is the quote below. It really paints a clear picture that Marvel truly is run by spineless fags and basically bent over backwards to humor her and cater to her, (probably because she has a history at causing a big stink when she doesn't get her way, like that time she accused her publisher of preventing her book from being on the NYT Best seller list because of misogyny and her broken leg), only for her to throw a massive tantrum when her book started getting panned by the thing Marvel couldn't control: the general public.


Can't wait to see how she burns Image next when nobody wants to read Bloody Twat Vomit: The Series.

I just wanna know if that is all it takes to get a job at Marvel? Cause if so, give me Cuckbulski's number so i can call and pester him about how I am latino, and I should write for a Latino Marvel hero, cause representation. I have never ever written for a comic company, etc. Nor am I competent at being a writer of any genre in general, but why should that stop me?
 
I am still trying to figure out why, of all characters, she went with Mockingbird. Was that a Bendis thing or did I miss something?

Anyways, color me surprised that all these YA writers are about as emotionally mature as a teenager. It's kind of disturbing to see a woman Cain's age acting like this but she's not the only one. We probably could have a Community Watch thread just for YA novelists.
My best guess? For self-insert purposes. It's been a pattern with all of these chucklefucks that they either gravitate towards characters that look similar to them (or at least how they see themselves) or if that fails then they change the character design to look more like how they see themselves. Same thing happened with Kate Leth & Hellcat, Kate Leth & Vampirella, Kelly Sue Deconnick & Captain Marvel, Gabby Rivera & America, and most recently Ewing & Iron Heart. Even if the only thing Cain and Mockingbird really have in common is that they both happen to be blonde, that was clearly enough for Cain to completely hijack the character and start inserting her own personal "cute" quirks like her surface-level understanding of science or her obsession with corgis.

Plus, as you said, she's a 40 year old woman acting like a 13 year old. I also wouldn't be surprised if this is her "how do you do, fellow kids" mid-life crisis.
 
My best guess? For self-insert purposes. It's been a pattern with all of these chucklefucks that they either gravitate towards characters that look similar to them (or at least how they see themselves) or if that fails then they change the character design to look more like how they see themselves. Same thing happened with Kate Leth & Hellcat, Kate Leth & Vampirella, Kelly Sue Deconnick & Captain Marvel, Gabby Rivera & America, and most recently Ewing & Iron Heart. Even if the only thing Cain and Mockingbird really have in common is that they both happen to be blonde, that was clearly enough for Cain to completely hijack the character and start inserting her own personal "cute" quirks like her surface-level understanding of science or her obsession with corgis.
It would also explain why so many of them go for new characters or D-Listers. None of them actually read comics or respect the medium so they just browse Wikipedia until they find a blank enough slate to hijack. And clearly nobody at Marvel gives a fuck if they mess around with a character to the point that they become an unrecognizable mess. After all, one of the key executives there is the guy who mandated Spider-Man making a deal with Satan to get a divorce.
 
Chelsea Cain / February 05 1972 (46 years old)
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Origin Story
I always knew I would grow up to write gory thrillers.

That’s a lie.

The truth is that I wanted to grow up to be a firedog. There was a vintage fire truck at the park we used to go to when I was a kid and I just really liked the idea of riding on the back of it, ears perked, black and white fur tickled by the wind. My parents were hippies, so didn’t want to limit my potential by telling me that I couldn’t grow up to be a Dalmatian.

I never did get a job as a firedog, so in that sense I’ll always be a failure.

My mother wanted me to grow up to be a potter. We had a clay spinning wheel for a while in the backroom of an apartment we rented, and I have to admit I was pretty good at creating lopsided earthenware pen vases, if you like that sort of thing.

But in retrospect I always had a fascination with the macabre.

It started with the pet cemetery. A kitten of mine was hit by a car and I buried her in an elaborate ceremony under the Rhododendron bush in our front yard in Bellingham, Washington. Then, walking home from school a few months later, I came across a dead bird. I picked it up, put it in my lunchbox, carried it home and buried it under the Rhododendron. I found eight more dead birds that week. They all went into the cemetery. Who knows what kind of bird epidemic was sweeping through my town. I guess I’m lucky I didn’t catch bird flu.

Eventually kids in the neighborhood started hearing about the cemetery and would appear at my door cradling their dead pets. By the end of that year I had buried fifteen birds, three cats, a hamster, a rabbit, a chicken, and about a dozen gold fish. Each corpse was laid in a shoebox, cushioned with toilet paper, and presented with a piece of costume jewelry from a collection that someone had given me. I would then bury the box and say a few words to whoever was present. I had a special vintage ladies hat I would wear for the occasion. It was black, with white silk flowers piled on it, and a torn black net veil.

I was not an ordinary child.

At the time I was very interested in the Green River Killer. He was our local serial murderer. They found his first victims in 1982. I was ten years old. He went on to kill dozens of women, mostly prostitutes, many of them teenagers. It was the first time that I was aware that there was that sort of danger in the world—That you could go out one day, and they might find you the next day, dead, naked in a river. His main killing ground was about an hour and half from the town I grew up in. But I still thought about him when I was walking my dog alone at night. I followed the stories in the newspaper and I knew that there was a task force assigned to catch him. I liked that idea—a team of professionals who were working really hard to keep me safe from the bogeyman.

I still wasn’t thinking about writing gory thrillers. Though I will admit that, in seventh grade, I got 40 pages into a novel about a female PI. I typed the entire thing in a cursive font. I thought it looked fancy.

Journalism. That was my college goal at the University of California, at Irvine. I didn’t know anyone who wrote books, and after the firedog disappointment, I wanted to be realistic about my professional aspirations.

I even went to graduate school in journalism at the University of Iowa where I wrote a column for The Daily Iowan, dyed my hair dark red and stared reading Sylvia Plath. Literary towns will do that to you.

But there was one thing about journalism that I didn’t like at all: talking to strangers. Writing books, on the other hand, requires talking to far fewer people. And Iowa City, home of the lauded Iowa Writers Workshop, was full of people writing books.

So I wrote a few too.

That’s a lie.

I moved from Iowa to Portland to New York and back to Portland with brief stays in Florida and Pennsylvania, and in the process wrote a dozen books over the next ten years.

But I only published a few.

The rest were really, really bad.

Don’t worry. I had a real job. I was a creative director for a PR firm. (My hair was very blond at this point.) Then I fell in love with the clerk at my local video store, and in the throes of an identity crisis (I had dyed my hair red again), I retired from PR at the grizzled age of 31. I married the video store clerk and a year later, pregnant with my daughter, I was up late at night and I came across an episode of Larry King Liveabout the Green River Killer.

They had caught him in 2001, nearly twenty years after his first victims were discovered, and he had a name: Gary Ridgway. I hadn’t thought about the Green River Killer or that case in years, but there, live on TV, were the cops from the task force I remembered as a kid. I recognized them from the newspapers photographs that were burned into my mind. They had spent their careers looking for this guy. And they had caught him. Finally.

I was safe.

And I thought to myself: gory thriller!

That would be fun to write.

(You find that you have lot of time on your hands when you suddenly are not drinking because you are pregnant.)

So I wrote HEARTSICK. Having begun a book while pregnant and finished it with a baby in the house, I can tell you it is a feat that cannot be adequately praised.

But I guess that I shouldn’t be surprised to find myself writing thrillers. It does bring together many of my interests: forensic pathology, medicine, damaged heroes, dead pets, Nancy Drew, TV cops shows, my home of Portland, Oregon, and having an excuse to be alone in a room for long periods. Sometimes I think being a thriller writer might be as fun as being a firedog.

But I guess I’ll never know for sure.
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Contact Chelsea’s Publicist

Sarah Reidy | Senior Publicity Manager | Simon & Schuster
1230 Avenue of the Americas | New York, NY 10020 | T. 212-698-7008
sarah.reidy@simonandschuster.com | @sarah_reidy

Or, for inquiries related to the Archie Sheridan/Gretchen Lowell series:

Hector DeJean
Minotaur Publicity Manager
St. Martin's Press
175 5th Avenue, 15th Floor
New York, NY 10010
email


Contact Chelsea’s Agent
The Joy Harris Literary Agency, Inc.
156 Fifth Avenue, Suite 617
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I just wanna know if that is all it takes to get a job at Marvel? Cause if so, give me Cuckbulski's number so i can call and pester him about how I am latino, and I should write for a Latino Marvel hero, cause representation. I have never ever written for a comic company, etc. Nor am I competent at being a writer of any genre in general, but why should that stop me?
The most important question is, do you have the same haircut as latino superhero?... No?...

Well then you're fired you misogynistic incel!
 
I am still trying to figure out why, of all characters, she went with Mockingbird. Was that a Bendis thing or did I miss something?

Anyways, color me surprised that all these YA writers are about as emotionally mature as a teenager. It's kind of disturbing to see a woman Cain's age acting like this but she's not the only one. We probably could have a Community Watch thread just for YA novelists.
The YA community is positively fucked with social justic weirdos and minority promoting. They will destroy an author and their book if it doesn’t meet their diversity bingo or doesn’t check all the right boxes. Double so if the author doesn’t hire one of them to pre-screen the manuscript and make sure it’s sufficiently woke.

It’s pretty gross what’s happened to that community. It’s extemely toxic on twitter and tumblr.
 
The YA community is positively fucked with social justic weirdos and minority promoting. They will destroy an author and their book if it doesn’t meet their diversity bingo or doesn’t check all the right boxes. Double so if the author doesn’t hire one of them to pre-screen the manuscript and make sure it’s sufficiently woke.

It’s pretty gross what’s happened to that community. It’s extemely toxic on twitter and tumblr.
It's so bad that Vulture wrote an article about YA twitter drama last year.
 
The YA community is positively fucked with social justic weirdos and minority promoting. They will destroy an author and their book if it doesn’t meet their diversity bingo or doesn’t check all the right boxes. Double so if the author doesn’t hire one of them to pre-screen the manuscript and make sure it’s sufficiently woke.

It’s pretty gross what’s happened to that community. It’s extemely toxic on twitter and tumblr.

I remember reading an interview with the owner of a small publisher that primarily dealt with children’s books. They proudly talked about how they forced an author to change their main character from a white boy to a brown girl as a condition of signing them up.
 
It’s almost like you’re proud about being listed with violent psychopaths, a literal sexual harasser, a fat millionaire who could barely crowdfund his comic, a lady who just loves the attention, an unfunny cat lady and multiple #MeToos just waiting to happen:View attachment 550365https://twitter.com/ErikJLarsen/status/1044325390221594624 https://archive.fo/lrYNf
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It’s almost like CG doesn’t care what politics someone follows or something?
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Erik just make porn, you know you want to and you don’t need to justify it. Just don’t sperg out when you can’t sell it:
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It reminds me of this:

Does anyone else notice that the “Racist Misogynistic” Comicsgaters “Hate list” is 100% the Whitest White People ever seen, and is fairly evenly split male/female/other?

Those Bigoted Nazi’s!!!

My best guess? For self-insert purposes. It's been a pattern with all of these chucklefucks that they either gravitate towards characters that look similar to them (or at least how they see themselves) or if that fails then they change the character design to look more like how they see themselves. Same thing happened with Kate Leth & Hellcat, Kate Leth & Vampirella, Kelly Sue Deconnick & Captain Marvel, Gabby Rivera & America, and most recently Ewing & Iron Heart. Even if the only thing Cain and Mockingbird really have in common is that they both happen to be blonde, that was clearly enough for Cain to completely hijack the character and start inserting her own personal "cute" quirks like her surface-level understanding of science or her obsession with corgis.

Plus, as you said, she's a 40 year old woman acting like a 13 year old. I also wouldn't be surprised if this is her "how do you do, fellow kids" mid-life crisis.

You are actually 100% correct. But not for the reasons that you think. And the SJW’s would freak out if they were ever told what is really going on there. Because it gets to the core differences between boys and girls, going back to toddler ages. And it very clearly indicates that yes these is a difference between male and female, and the comic product produced by them will by biological nature be substantially different.

Let’s step away from comics for a moment and talk about toys. We all know how the SJW’s have been claiming that there is no such thing as gendered toys. That kids are the same and boy and girls play is environmental behavior. So there should be no pink and blue toy aisles. The great claims that little boys and little girls are the same and interchangeable. And there are all sorts of “Academic Studies” supposedly claiming this. (Often Swedish). These studies are all badly funded and based on extremely small sample groups. 20-30 kids tops.

Well back in 2012 Lego, the brick people, looked at the wreckage of 25 years of failing to sell toys to girls, and decided to find out why. So they formed a research department and decided to find out how kids play. They poured tens of millions of dollars into it. Sample sizes were 10,000+. They spent 2 years researching. And then they published an internal top secret report on their findings. In 2015 Lego lent from the #3 toy maker to #1 by a broad margin. Their products were on fire. Their newly released Friends line for girls was selling faster then they could produce it. While every feminist and every media rag bitched and moaned about how horrible it was.

Now Lego’s actual reports, their research, is a top secret. An actual accurate study of how kids play is a license to print money for a toy company. It’s the secret formula. But they have spoken a little bit about their findings;

Core to what they found is past 3 or 4 boys and girls play very very differently. One of the biggest differences Lego noted was how each plays with the mini figures. Boys become the character of the figure that they are playing with. So if a boy is playing with a Spider-Man figure, he the boy, becomes Spider-Man. Girls project themselves into the figure. So any figure the girl is playing with becomes the girl. And making the character resemble themselves is important.

See where this is going. Boys take on the persona of the character being portrayed. Girls project themselves into the character and change the character to match and reflect themselves. Got that? Now go read OneManBlinds post again, keeping that core biological play instinct in mind. See the pattern? See how the same thing is occurring. And it is likely a huge part of the dissonance. Comics are at heart very much a boys form of storytelling. And while the female writers may be very good writers, stepping into that boys storytelling while telling it as a girl creates that subtle dissonance that results in the dull cardboard stories we see. They can’t help but project themselves into the toys, the characters. But that doesn’t work for comic characters. It kills them. The reader needs to be able to project the character into themselves. But nobody wants to project Kate Leth or Chelsea Cain into themselves. That way lies madness and alcoholism. But we’re not allowed to point this out because Muh Soggy Knees.
 
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The sad thing is reading the anti-CG twitter supergroups is actually more entertaining than the actual comic product being published by Marvel and DC these days.

And I know I keep harping on how clueless these morons are about business, while telling us we know nothing about “their” industry... but they make it so fucking easy. This clown is freaking out, “how can we call EVS the biggest thing in comics if he only has 8,500 customers! They won’t come back next month!” The dude just brought in half a million $$$ us, on what he up front calculated production costs to be ~$5000. He brought this in directly. No middle man. That’s 10-20 years worth of earnings for most industry professionals. He could live for 10 years on that alone. And that’s a Graphic Novel sale, of which the big publishers are lucky to sell 5k these days. He literally made nearly 1000 points margin on his book. Show me any other comic pros that have accomplished better? I’ll give you maybe Robert Kirkman and Rumiko Takahashi. But not many others.

Same thing with Richard C Meyer. He managed to sell 2 books for a combined $500,000 within a three month period. And the first has started reaching customers hands this week. A crowd funded project that went from solicitation to delivery in under 6 months. At maybe 500 points margin. And guess what? This unknown dude that is literally a walking driving publicity factory and controversy magnet? With two IP’s, both of which are nice simple and straightforward, yeah somebody is going to option those. Heck I could see Blumhouse grabbing up Iron Sights and just hoping the crowds of protesting soy warriors show up to attract eyeballs and media attention. “The Comic They Don’t Want You To Read! The Movie They Don’t Want You To See! The Story Too Triggering For Your Gender Studies Professor!” Someone will make millions off of that.
 
I just wanna know if that is all it takes to get a job at Marvel? Cause if so, give me Cuckbulski's number so i can call and pester him about how I am latino, and I should write for a Latino Marvel hero, cause representation. I have never ever written for a comic company, etc. Nor am I competent at being a writer of any genre in general, but why should that stop me?

Shit, you're not the only one. I'm a disabled non-neurotypical female with possible questionable Asian background ... but I have experience in the publishing industry, so I'm guessing that leaves me out. Alas. :(

As for Our Boi Zack and EVS, I wish them godspeed. There may be spergs around them, but they seem like genuinely okay dudes, if a little weird themselves sometimes. May they drink long and deep of the soyboy tears.
 
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