Law Justice Brett Kavanaugh Megathread - Megathread for Brett Kavanaugh, US Supreme Court Justice

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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/05/trump-picks-brett-kavanaugh-for-supreme-court.html

President Donald Trump has picked Brett Kavanaugh, a federal appeals court judge with extensive legal credentials and a lengthy political record, to succeed Justice Anthony M. Kennedy on the Supreme Court, NBC News reported.

Kavanaugh, 53, is an ideological conservative who is expected to push the court to the right on a number of issues including business regulation and national security. The favorite of White House Counsel Donald McGahn, Kavanaugh is also considered a safer pick than some of the more partisan choices who were on the president’s shortlist.

A graduate of Yale Law School who serves on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, Kavanaugh has the traditional trappings of a presidential nominee to the high court.


If confirmed, the appellate judge would become the second young, conservative jurist Trump has put on the top U.S. court during his first term. Kavanaugh's confirmation would give the president an even bigger role in shaping U.S. policy for decades to come. The potential to morph the federal judiciary led many conservatives to support Trump in 2016, and he has not disappointed so far with the confirmation of conservative Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch and numerous federal judges.

At times, he has diverged from the Republican party’s ideological line on important cases that have come before him, including on the Affordable Care Act, the 2010 health care law which Kavanaugh has declined to strike down on a number of occasions in which it has come before him.

Anti-abortion groups quietly lobbied against Kavanaugh, pushing instead for another jurist on Trump’s shortlist, 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Amy Coney Barrett, ABC News reported in the run-up to Trump’s announcement.

Kavanaugh received his current appointment in 2006 after five years in the George W. Bush administration, where he served in a number of roles including staff secretary to the president. He has been criticized for his attachment to Bush, as well as his involvement in a number of high-profile legal cases.

For instance, Kavanaugh led the investigation into the death of Bill Clinton’s Deputy White House Counsel Vince Foster, and assisted in Kenneth Starr’s 1998 report outlining the case for Clinton’s impeachment.

Democrats criticized Kavanaugh’s political roles during his 2006 confirmation hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

“Your experience has been most notable, not so much for your blue chip credentials, but for the undeniably political nature of so many of your assignments,” Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said at the time.

“From the notorious Starr report, to the Florida recount, to the President’s secrecy and privilege claims, to post-9/11 legislative battles including the Victims Compensation Fund, to ideological judicial nomination fights, if there has been a partisan political fight that needed a very bright legal foot soldier in the last decade, Brett Kavanaugh was probably there,” Schumer said.

Kavanaugh's work on the Starr report has been scrutinized by Republicans who have said it could pose trouble for the president as he negotiates with special counsel Robert Mueller over the terms of a possible interview related to Mueller's Russia probe. The 1998 document found that Clinton's multiple refusals to testify to a grand jury in connection with Starr's investigation were grounds for impeachment.

In later years, Kavanaugh said that Clinton should not have had to face down an investigation during his presidency. He has said the indictment of a president would not serve the public interest.

Like Trump's first nominee to the Supreme Court, Neil Gorsuch, Kavanaugh clerked for Kennedy. If he is confirmed, it will mark the first time ever that a current or former Supreme Court justice has two former clerks become justices, according to an article by Adam Feldman, who writes a blog about the Supreme Court.

Kavanaugh teaches courses on the separation of powers, the Supreme Court, and national security at Harvard Law School and Yale Law School, and does charitable work at St. Maria’s Meals program at Catholic Charities in Washington, D.C., according to his official biography.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ett-kavanaugh-nomination-by-a-28-point-margin

After a blistering confirmation battle, Justice Brett Kavanaugh will take his seat for oral arguments on the U.S. Supreme Court with a skeptical public, a majority of which opposed his nomination. However, Democrats may not be able to exploit this fact in the upcoming elections as much as they hope, because the independent voters overwhelmingly disapprove of their own handling of the nomination by a 28-point margin, a new CNN/SSRS poll finds.

Overall, just 41 percent of those polled said they wanted to see Kavanaugh confirmed, compared to 51 percent who said they opposed his confirmation. In previous CNN polls dating back to Robert Bork in 1987, no nominee has been more deeply underwater.

What's interesting, however, is even though Democrats on the surface would seem to have public opinion on their side, just 36 percent approved of how they handled the nomination, compared to 56 percent who disapproved. (Republicans were at 55 percent disapproval and 35 percent approval). A further breakdown finds that 58 percent of independents disapproved of the way the Democrats handled the nomination — compared to 30 percent who approved. (Independents also disapproved of Republicans handling of the matter, but by a narrower 53 percent to 32 percent margin).

Many people have strong opinions on the way the Kavanaugh nomination will play out in November and who it will benefit. The conventional wisdom is that it will help Democrats in the House, where there are a number of vulnerable Republicans in suburban districts where losses among educated women could be devastating, and that it will help Republicans in the Senate, where the tossup races are in red states where Trump and Kavanaugh are more popular.

That said, it's clear that the nomination energized both sides, and that the tactics pursued by the parties turned off independent voters in a way that makes it much harder to predict how this will end up affecting election outcomes.
 
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A very interesting quirk is that, at least up here in NY, outside the Manhattan Bubble, it's had the opposite effect: The Dem base is fucking pissed. There's a reason Schumer's about as well-liked as Crohn's Disease up here outside his rabid fanbase. The dude pathologically goes with shafting his own constituency, and the only reason he still has his job is because the DNC bankrolls anyone who dares primary challenge the selfish prick while strategically deplatforming any opposition in-party. That's the case for many, if not all of the establishment Dems, and while they're really big on going on about how they're going to improve shit, fact of the matter is that both sides of the electorate fucking hate them. It's only the party insiders that want them to be there, and that's not going to avail them forever if they keep fucking losing.

The only reason the likes of Upchuck Schumer and Andrew Cuomo are elected is because the NY GOP is a nonentity that makes zero effort to sustain it's own candidates. Hilldawg Clinton may as well have been kept out of the senate in 2000 had they shown even a modicum of spine, but they didn't. It's kind of a miracle the GOP still holds control of the state senate as it is.

Unless they get used to filling the void left by dying Neocohens with miqueltoast Blue Dogs, I don't see the Democrat party having much of a future. As you said, the establishment dinosaurs are useless, and the #woke blue check crowd isn't much different. In spite of their relative youth, the likes of Obama and Kamala behave in the same psychotic, unhinged manner as Pelosi and Mad Maxine Waters. We can also expect much of the same mental illnesses from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortex, assuming she doesn't end up torpedoing her 15 minutes of fame out of sheer :autism:, and it's very likely it will happen since Joe Crowley is still in the Working Families ticket.
 
It looks like they're pivoting away from the rapist angle and now are going for the alcoholic take. They have a supposed former classmate coming out of the wood works who claims he was usually passed out drunk at parties and she'll happily testify to the FBI about it. This is a change from the "he's a belligerent drunk rapist".

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1045636742836105217
http://archive.is/v6PZ6

On a more funny note, when Booker was grandstanding, a not amused Grassley held up his iphone at Booker to show how long he's been speaking:

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It looks like they're pivoting away from the rapist angle and now are going for the alcoholic take. They have a supposed former classmate coming out of the wood works who claims he was usually passed out drunk at parties and she'll happily testify to the FBI about it. This is a change from the "he's a belligerent drunk rapist".

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1045636742836105217
http://archive.is/v6PZ6

On a more funny note, when Booker was grandstanding, a not amused Grassley held up his iphone at Booker to show how long he's been speaking:

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Anyone else suddenly remembering the Kennedies?

....Just me then?
 
The only reason the likes of Upchuck Schumer and Andrew Cuomo are elected is because the NY GOP is a nonentity that makes zero effort to sustain it's own candidates. Hilldawg Clinton may as well have been kept out of the senate in 2000 had they shown even a modicum of spine, but they didn't. It's kind of a miracle the GOP still holds control of the state senate as it is.

Unless they get used to filling the void left by dying Neocohens with miqueltoast Blue Dogs, I don't see the Democrat party having much of a future. As you said, the establishment dinosaurs are useless, and the #woke blue check crowd isn't much different. In spite of their relative youth, the likes of Obama and Kamala behave in the same psychotic, unhinged manner as Pelosi and Mad Maxine Waters. We can also expect much of the same mental illnesses from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortex, assuming she doesn't end up torpedoing her 15 minutes of fame out of sheer :autism:, and it's very likely it will happen since Joe Crowley is still in the Working Families ticket.
We are nearly at the point where we all go whole hog into identity politics, or we all realise it's poisonous nature. We can't keep playing two different games. I'm not optimistic we will choose the second path.
 
Anyone else suddenly remembering the Kennedies?

....Just me then?
I'll do you two better....I've been around long enough to remember the keggers Andrew Jackson and John Tyler were holding on the White House lawn, it's an American tradition to mix your politics and justice system with whiskey and surleyness.
 
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Every time I think I've found rock bottom of the cuckservative commentariat, they show me a new low.
I don't want to make a long post because it'll be all :autism: and a-logging, so I'm just going to lay down a marker: at no point before the final vote (the actual final vote; if no such vote occurs due to outside events, I'll consider the cutoff point to be whenever Kav leaves the running) will Jennifer Rubin, Bill Crystol, Megan McArdle, or Russ Douthat say either/or: "Brett Kavanaugh has been exonerated" or "Republicans should ignore Democrats' demands and proceed with the vote." Like all the rest of the MSM, the controlled opposition's masks are slipping.

If I'm wrong, I'm giving KF $100.
Never Trumpers ain't worth getting mad about my friend.
If you feel yourself getting angry about them just remember that their lot in life is to be nothing more than the Left's dancing bears.
They have been throughly swept into the garbage bin of history. They have no audience and no influence.
So just ignore them.
 
So this has probably been suggested by now, but could Flake's flaking, perhaps, be borne of genuine fear for his life? Two shrieking dangerhairs cornered him in an elevator and NOBODY DID ANYTHING.

If one of them had a gun it would've been all over for him. I'd be looking over my fucking shoulder and listening for distant "FUCKING WHITE MALE"s for the rest of my life after that.
 
At first Friday afternoon I was pretty infuriated by the Democrats and that asshole Flake, but after thinking it over, I'm actually pretty optimistic. This can only help Trump. The longer it goes on and the more obstructionist and unreasonable the Senate Dems are, the more measured and sane Trump looks.

That aside, my impressions of the effects of these hearings are these: this is a naked power grab (barely) disguised as an issue of morality. I'm actually reminded of the politics of the late Roman Republic. Politicians routinely were accused of the most appalling and low crimes, everything from raping their own children to coprophragia. It was never true, of course. These allegations were designed to accomplish one thing and one thing only. They were meant to damage a rival's dignitas. Without dignitas, a man was held to be worthless, of no substance, not to be trusted with any power or responsibility in the public sphere.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dignitas_(Roman_concept)


TLDR, the Dems tried to destroy a man's dignitas. They have failed. One should bear in mind that Julius Caesar overthrew the entire established Roman political order and killed tens of thousands of fellow citizens over insults to his dignitas.
 
At first Friday afternoon I was pretty infuriated by the Democrats and that asshole Flake, but after thinking it over, I'm actually pretty optimistic. This can only help Trump. The longer it goes on and the more obstructionist and unreasonable the Senate Dems are, the more measured and sane Trump looks.

That aside, my impressions of the effects of these hearings are these: this is a naked power grab (barely) disguised as an issue of morality. I'm actually reminded of the politics of the late Roman Republic. Politicians routinely were accused of the most appalling and low crimes, everything from raping their own children to coprophragia. It was never true, of course. These allegations were designed to accomplish one thing and one thing only. They were meant to damage a rival's dignitas. Without dignitas, a man was held to be worthless, of no substance, not to be trusted with any power or responsibility in the public sphere.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dignitas_(Roman_concept)


TLDR, the Dems tried to destroy a man's dignitas. They have failed. One should bear in mind that Julius Caesar overthrew the entire established Roman political order and killed tens of thousands of fellow citizens over insults to his dignitas.
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Honestly I haven't been following this but all I know is that everyone I'm mutuals with or following (except for a small number of people) hate Kavanaugh and say he's guilty of his accusations.
I finally watched the highlights and wow, so far I'm seeing the complete opposite of what my friends and others are ranting about. This is a waste of time.
 
So this has probably been suggested by now, but could Flake's flaking, perhaps, be borne of genuine fear for his life? Two shrieking dangerhairs cornered him in an elevator and NOBODY DID ANYTHING.

If one of them had a gun it would've been all over for him. I'd be looking over my fucking shoulder and listening for distant "FUCKING WHITE MALE"s for the rest of my life after that.

Corner me in a fucking elevator, that's your happy ass. I don't care who you are. You have me in a position where I can claim actual fear for my life. And, for one, only one of us is leaving that elevator. A bit excessive? Maybe. But you see it on the street with these idiots. Show any genuflection and they think they can punch you. So, yeah, I think he's a coward.

"Your honor, they had me cornered in an elevator and I didn't know if they had someone else waiting to attack me since I couldn't get off and the floors kept going up. Ignore the multiple boot prints after death."

I guarantee the second one of these dumb fucks comes up and corners someone or assaults someone and they get fucking killed? It'll get around real-damn fast and it'll stop. It's only the fact these asses haven't had any consequences for their actions that they can still do it. You can't reason with lunatics.
 
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So this has probably been suggested by now, but could Flake's flaking, perhaps, be borne of genuine fear for his life? Two shrieking dangerhairs cornered him in an elevator and NOBODY DID ANYTHING.

If one of them had a gun it would've been all over for him. I'd be looking over my fucking shoulder and listening for distant "FUCKING WHITE MALE"s for the rest of my life after that.

Forgive my ignorance, but don't they have metal detectors and stuff in government buildings for this very reason?
 
Imho the Democratic Party should be completely disbanded and replaced with one that's much less corrupt and power hungry. Maybe a party filled with actual circus clowns. Chuckles might throw a pie in a senators face, but by god you won't see him leading a witch hunt on some innocent schmuck just because he can.
 
Ummm? Didn’t she, under oath, admit that she or her lawyer contacted the WaPo BEFORE the Senate? Or did I miss something major there?

Does nobody on the left realize the risk in all this to this woman? How many Trump admin people have been sandbagged by Mueller now on the charge of “lying to the FBI”? Well calling for an FBI investigation means the FBI WILL be talking to her. And any inconsistency in her story will set off all sorts of red flags. They want a clean timeline, which she seems incapable of providing. (Do note that the “accurate” timeline that the Dems are waving around comes from Kavanaughs records and recollections. Nothing she provided.) Mitchell was being generous when she said she would not have referred this matter for Prosecution or Investigation.

At least in the case of that Bloomberg article It's a lie by omission to make the reader feel a certain way. They technically aren't saying who contacted the press and gloss over it with the line "Journalists learned of the allegation." That kind of inconsistency isn't going to reflect back on Ford and nobody calls the media out for stuff like this.

"Ford says Journalist that she contacted caused her to go public.

When Journalists somehow found out about her story, because she contacted them repeatedly, She knew she would be forced to go public."

They want to establish, indirectly, that

1.) She is a victim, first by Kavanaugh then by the predatory Press. Feel sorry for her because her brave story is only causing more pain.
2.) This wasn't a media stunt because she was dragged into going public after the press found out, somehow.
3.) The allegations have to be true because it was a confidential correspondence with Senators that, somehow, leaked. They weren't allegations made to the press which are often sensationalist!

It's just extremely lazy on that Bloomberg writer's part since that one little point of who contacted the press completely destroys the narrative that she is a hero that was forced against her will to reluctantly go public with her private secrets.

Outside of this article though you are definitely right. All of the actual statements directly from her having inconsistencies of their own is going to be an issue for the FBI to look at.
 
The two screeching beaners who got in Flake's face in the elevator.

Yeah, they're Soros-funded anti-Trump political operatives who work for The Center for Popular Democracy Action Fund.

They were outraged because of the sexual assault claims you see. The really really really hate sexual assault, and they attack all men who are accused of... wait... no... pay no attention to that... focus on the bad white man...

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Just because I didn't see anyone post an archive of the slanderous USA Today article, here it is. I'm of the opinion that it's going to disappear if Kavanaugh gets confirmed so the Dems can try to claim that they weren't going batshit crazy.
The problem is you in NY outside the Manhattan Bubble are as politically irrelevant as Eastern California. The best thing you could have done was carve up or cut loose NYC years ago. Sell half of it to Jersey. Get it off your voter rolls. Until you do, you people North of Westchester are at best Serfs.
I'm more of a "raze the city and plow the residents under" man myself. Even at state level government, NYC makes it so that the state legislature is more left-leaning than it probably should be.
If you're not familiar with NY (and if so, I don't blame you; NY's politics are a fucking shit-show), the TL;DR is that we have a sort of weird mutation of the California situation where a tiny shred of our state dictates the majority of state policy due to districting and population distribution. The rest of the state fluctuates wildly in demographic and political affiliations, from outright red (much of upstate) to mostly blue (Central LI) to purple (Eastern LI) and while as a whole it's basically always at least leaned blue, the entire state isn't the NYC area and Albany. Like was joked about earlier in the thread, for the most part NY is hilariously unrepresentative of its own electorate (with much of the state having no meaningful impact on politics beyond the local level) and entirely at the whims of the small blocks of die-hard blue at the state level. It's why you can have a county-by-county breakdown that looks like this in 2016 and still have the senate race go to the Incumbent Dem.

By no means is my analysis a comprehensive breakdown, and I'm absolutely willing to acknowledge my own data on it might be incorrect.
I think the only thing I'd expand on about your post is that, looking at the counties that went blue when surrounded by red, you can pretty immediately tell why: Large urban population centers. Albany county goes blue because of Albany, Schenectady County goes blue because of Schenectady, Onondaga County goes blue because of Syracuse, Tompkins County goes blue because of Ithaca (another city I could do without), Rochester County goes blue because of Rochester, and Erie County goes blue because of Buffalo. Pretty much all of those besides Albany and Schenectady have the immediate explanation that those cities are surrounded by rural farmlands, which tend to vote Republican. Speaking from personal experience (though hopefully not powerleveling too hard) people in the suburban-to-rural areas around Schenectady and Albany just want to be left alone to a nearly antisocial degree, so the Dems current id-pol nonsense doesn't fly well with them.
 
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