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Damn! I used to know half of these YouTubers OP listed. I'm so disappoint to Philip D. And Boogie I'm not surprised since he supported Alex Jones getting ban. But he's no better than him by supporting this scam. What a world these big YouTubers had gotten themselves into.
 
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If you make money from advertising something, without putting in the effort of having full knowledge of what your advertising because like, 'money is money,' you must be pretty fucking retarded. You should go make money as a tradesmen or something, and stop trying to put food on the table with your 'content.'

If all it takes is money for someone to turn a blind eye, that someone belongs on the moon.
 
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This was great to watch live, can't wait to see what you guys find out. That Joel dude is going to be getting some interesting emails sooner or later.
 
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Not surprisingly, reading the actual terms of use on the site clues you the fuck in that they're not interested in your health, it's just a chat platform that's propped up to look like it'll save your life. You'd get better results by sending a friend request to a psychiatrist on Facebook.

https://www.betterhelp.com/terms/

"THE PLATFORM DOES NOT INCLUDE THE PROVISION OF MEDICAL CARE, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, OR OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES BY US. As operators of the Platform, our role is strictly limited to facilitating the communication between you and the Counselor and to enable the provision of the Counselor Services. It is up to you to consider and decide whether these services are appropriate for you or not."

"THE PLATFORM IS NOT INTENDED FOR DIAGNOSIS, INCLUDING INFORMATION REGARDING WHICH DRUGS OR TREATMENT THAT MAY BE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU, AND YOU SHOULD DISREGARD ANY SUCH ADVICE IF DELIVERED THROUGH THE PLAFORM."

And one of my personal favorites, since remember: This service is advertised to help people with typically suicidal thoughts.

"IF YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT SUICIDE OR IF YOU ARE CONSIDERING TO TAKE ACTIONS THAT MAY CAUSE HARM TO YOU OR TO OTHERS OR IF YOU FEEL THAT OR ANY OTHER PERSON MAY BE IN ANY DANGER OR IF YOU HAVE ANY MEDICAL EMERGENCY, YOU MUST IMMEDIATELY CALL THE EMERGENCY SERVICE NUMBER (911 IN THE US) AND NOTIFY THE RELEVANT AUTHORITIES. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE, CONFIRM AND AGREE THAT THE PLATFORM IS NOT DESIGNED FOR USE IN ANY OF THE AFOREMENTIONED CASES AND THAT YOU MUST NOT USE THE PLATFORM IN ANY OF THE AFOREMENTIONED CASES."

These are some really squeaky clean terms for someone who is so darn concerned about your precious little feels. It's a con job to squeeze nickles out of people who feel completely isolated and alone and who need serious professional help.
 
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Better helps parent company -> https://www.creatorhealth.org/ (Has 2 other consoling sites affiliated as well)

The site is hiding information in the back end IE not visible need to view page source.
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Stuff hidden -> probably more https://www.creatorhealth.org/feed.xml

Archive -> https://web.archive.org/web/20181003063531/https://www.creatorhealth.org/feed.xml
 
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I've done just a little bit of digging and found something interesting it seems as though the founder of the site has ties with google as early as 2013. I found this image on his twitter This suggests to me he could be giving the information he finds for google especially with it being reported that depressed people are an excellent target for advertisement.
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here's a link to his twitter http://archive.today/1501k
 
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Autopsy said:
I'm inclined to believe they priority-list high profile individuals to give them fantastic service and the bad reports from others are in part due to excess number of buyers to therapists. It's easy to lose perspective of the difference between *your* great experience and everyone else's poor one on a digital medium; there used to be a few websites like that built explicitly to fuck with people's heads.
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This seems the likely scenario to me - give your influencers a session or two with an actual provider so the service looks legit. All your "friends" have the same story, and the referral money is good, its actually helping people, so why not shill.

The company is shit, but as of today I'm not feeling like anyone on the plug list today is a bad person or thinking less of them. What they do now that this shit starting to break open is what will be telling.

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If you make money from advertising something, without putting in the effort of having full knowledge of what your advertising because like, 'money is money,' you must be pretty fucking exceptional. You should go make money as a tradesmen or something, and stop trying to put food on the table with your 'content.'

If all it takes is money for someone to turn a blind eye, that someone belongs on the moon.
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The line is a bit more blurry with "influencers" who are trying to organically shill for things, but I think expecting them to thoroughly research everything is expecting a bit much. I settle for due diligence. But its easy to just read the material they send you, spend a few minutes on the website, and say "this looks legit" and be just as hoodwinked as the people they are shilling to.
These people are part of networks, and there is probably a naive expectation that your network isn't going to send you something that's an out right scam.

The next week or so is what's going to determine if I lose respect for these folks.
 
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Pewdiepie proves yet again that he is actually the most mature person on Youtube. Here's Pediepie's full video on the matter.

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I'd like to point out that this "licensed therapist" is participating in diagnosing someone from afar, something you are NEVER SUPPOSED TO DO in mental healthcare. I'm pretty sure a non psychologist/psychiatrist isn't even qualified to diagnose someone. Not sure how that red flag wasn't caught right off the bat.

Another gripe I have with this is that the face to face interactions people have with therapists would be a major part of the therapy and a major component in cluing the therapist into what is really going on. A depressed person having to get presentable and make it to an appointment could actually be an important part of treatment.

Finally in what world is 35 a session some kind of super cheap steal even for something that is at best a LCSW over the phone when you could see an in network psychologist or psychiatrist for about that much if you have halfway decent health insurance. I know in network specialists can be hard to find, but the "cheap" price thing is a farce. I remember pushing back on this point on one of the vids I saw about it last year. Most universities (I mention this because it seems like their target demo) offer free counseling with a psychologist and require you to maintain pretty decent healthcare if you don't get on their plan (which is usually quite good and relatively inexpensive)
 
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Mr Care said:
A lot of people here seem to be very forgiving towards some people with giving them the benefit of the doubt. If they were stupid enough to advertise this service, they deserve to be put over the coals
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You'd hope that they'd have at least done the bare minimum of research on the company, especially after the disaster that was Candid.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...
 
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I see a regular counselor but not very often (supposed to be weekly but she gets so booked that it ends up being more like twice a month) so I thought I would try this out. I got rejected. I assume because I was too depressed. I was heartbroken at first but now I'm glad that I was rejected by these scam artists.
 
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Amberlynn Reid shilled for them until people put her on blast about online counselors not being able to dx you like she claimed they did.

ETA: I never could stand Shane Dawson and his ilk makes sense why H3H3 is now adding to crying about Depreshuns.

It's fucked up what they are doing to people who are genuinely hurting and in pain and desperately need help.
 
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Is this like WebMD 2.0 where you read an article and diagnose yourself? Or is this armchair therapy from some guy on a skype screen?
 
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A lot of people here seem to be very forgiving towards some people with giving them the benefit of the doubt. If they were stupid enough to advertise this service, they deserve to be put over the coals
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While this is true for most of them, Simpleflips for the longest time had a policy of "if you feel down and depressed just talk to me and i'll see if I can help you". With him growing so massively it's likely this company saw this and just simply offered to help take the burden off his back with their service. Under such circumstances I think it's for more acceptable as he's clearly shown he actually wants to help.

Most of these fucks though? yeah fuck it if they're not in on the scam itself I doubt they would mind the exploitation at hand.
 
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