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[BrunoMattei]

Phillip Defranco can pretend he's an old school youtuber, but really he's just the Last Week Tonight-esque sequel to a shitty obscure comedy channel. He can't even muster up a take half as decent as pewdiepie, who does a news segment without a research team alone in his basement.

DeFranco is more of a ripoff of Ze Frank. Have a single camera, closeup on the face, a lot of jump cuts, and cover current news.

 

[Zebedee]

Which would at best be a slap on the wrist fine. False advertising is a speeding ticket for big companies. You really need to get them either in fraud or contractual breach. i.e, them doing and saying things explicitly against their stated TOS.

Also true, but the social effect of people realising that they were being deceptive may actually cause them to lose a lot of money.

After all the consumer votes with their wallet.

 

[Mcniggered]

This is fucked up, but I've never once thought about paying money for a service that I know should be done in-person. Of course this is me with money and connections talking, but even some dude you've played Overwatch with for the past 3 years would be a better counselor than some name of a "professional" on a screen.

I totally believe that some YouTubers indeed suffer from depression, whether caused by YouTube (in the same strain that social media can exacerbate certain feelings of anxiety, low self-worth, etc.) or having been present before they created a channel, but I just don't see the logic in buying counseling on the Internet or through an app. That's not how therapy fucking works, that's never how it worked. You need someone to sit you down and have a few sessions with you in person. They need to see you, study your behaviors, get to actually know you, not what you put in a text message. If anything, these sorts of apps should be supplementary to your therapy, not the sole source of it.

I guess a bit of this ire is directed towards people who think that their mental illness can be fixed with a mouse click. It can't, and in some extreme cases it will get worse unless there is medical intervention involved. For those who cannot afford the doctor's appointments, I do not have a solution other than find someone to just talk things through with. Talk therapy wasn't all the rage in Freud's day for nothing.

I'm willing to give the people who bought into this the benefit of the doubt. Normally I'd just feel the same way you do about it but in this case it's not that shocking that people would readily accept this. I've known several people in the past who have gone out of their way to seek therapists and therapy overall, some even going miles out of their way in a few cases, only to find little to no real help because of the therapist not being suited for them or costs being too high. The language is all there that's the right kind of friendly and inviting for an all too familiar case, especially since a lot of people with mental issues don't like to be open about them because of the social stigma of how things like depression aren't real or that they should suck it up.

 

[Gym Leader Elesa]

It's fucked for sure, but people with mental illnesses get too much attention and pity as is. So I can't wait to endure weeks of media about how this is another holocaust against madmen who can't make their own beds.

It would be nice if they found someway to shut down Betterhelp or punish it's creators, though. Regular psychiatry is fucked enough and the U.S. system is already broken as is. Leave the retards alone, Jesus.

 

[SeaPancake]

I'm willing to give the people who bought into this the benefit of the doubt. Normally I'd just feel the same way you do about it but in this case it's not that shocking that people would readily accept this. I've known several people in the past who have gone out of their way to seek therapists and therapy overall, some even going miles out of their way in a few cases, only to find little to no real help because of the therapist not being suited for them or costs being too high. The language is all there that's the right kind of friendly and inviting for an all too familiar case, especially since a lot of people with mental issues don't like to be open about them because of the social stigma of how things like depression aren't real or that they should suck it up.

You're right. There are probably a number of people that saw this as their last chance because the in-person thing didn't work out. Sucks all around, in the end.

 

[CharlesBarkley]

It's really a shame I cant mass e-mail all those complainers and be like:

"Hey faggot and nigger sad sacks. Go do some heavy lifting at the gym. Bam, all your problems solved. Also quit watching shitty YouTube stars. No need to pay me, donate $10 to docs without borders or something."

Dunno how people live off exploiting dummies like this, tho.

 

[hambeerlyingnreed]

Better Help is connected with a LGBT specific website called Pride Counselling



Most of the questions on the intake are the same, but some differences are:



Plus a question about "do you want to be linked to a counselor in the LGBT community" that I accidentally clicked before screenshotting.

There are multiple language options if you choose to be paired with a queer therapist:


FAQ:

 

[melon]

op does need a good updating

Please add this:
Archive Link

This might be :autism:, but I think it might be a good idea to archive Philly D videos involving BetterHelp. If any kind of investigation commences, you can bet he will shoah that so fast.

I realise I'm able to update the OP now, so I'll try and get on that when I get home. Unfortunately, I didn't add the image link, but I can try to fix that up. I can add in some extra archive links, an update of BetterHelp's shady privacy policies, Teladoc info, other dox, and a section on the current ShillyD/Pewdiepie stuff if that's right with everyone.

Let me know if I'm missing anything.

 

[dick_phelps]

Pewdiepies vid got copyright struck, Jesus christ people don't want people pointing this shit out

 

[melon]

Pewdiepies vid got copyright struck, Jesus christ people don't want people pointing this shit out

By 'Pewdiepie CMS'? Someone know what that means? Last post before I go.

 

[hambeerlyingnreed]

Pewdiepies vid got copyright struck, Jesus christ people don't want people pointing this shit out

Yeah, but how is it possible to infringe on your own copyright?

Unless it had to do with the 00001 second clip of some random Youtuber saying "Better Help" or Hamber mooing about her video being 'stolen'

(edit to delete screenshot because Ninja-ed)

@melon I think CMS stands for Content Management System

 

[ES 148]

By 'Pewdiepie CMS'? Someone know what that means? Last post before I go.
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Almost definitely a fake company made for the purpose of striking.

 

[ure_mum]

By 'Pewdiepie CMS'? Someone know what that means? Last post before I go.
View attachment 563529

It sometimes completely boggles my mind how pewds, the guy with the most subs on Youtube and who has always given the site the benefit of the doubt even when they completely shit on him, needs to walk on eggshells around ""controversial"" topics. He'll get the video up again soon enough, but Youtube should have his back over these dumb strike issues from literal whos.

 

[hambeerlyingnreed]

If people are interested in watching the deleted Pewdiepie video, here it is.

 

[Wallace]

I'm willing to give the people who bought into this the benefit of the doubt. Normally I'd just feel the same way you do about it but in this case it's not that shocking that people would readily accept this. I've known several people in the past who have gone out of their way to seek therapists and therapy overall, some even going miles out of their way in a few cases, only to find little to no real help because of the therapist not being suited for them or costs being too high. The language is all there that's the right kind of friendly and inviting for an all too familiar case, especially since a lot of people with mental issues don't like to be open about them because of the social stigma of how things like depression aren't real or that they should suck it up.

One of the main benefits of proper psychotherapy is having someone who can be an objective point of reference for you to talk about your problems to. They're good at pointing out cognitive distortions and maladaptive coping behaviors, and then helping you move past them. Most internet friends, on the other hand, only offer e-hugs that have about as much therapeutic benefit as saccharine has nutrition. The therapist is going to point out things that you'd rather not admit to yourself. Facebook and Twitter friends will just enable you more.

 

[Voidoid]

 

[terry50]

Better Help is connected with a LGBT specific website called Pride Counselling

They are connected to a lot more than that, look at the source for www.betterhelp.com/start/
You've got www.regain.us, www.pridecounseling.com, www.teencounseling.com and www.faithfulcounseling.com.
Also, I wonder what this javascript does: "secret_assign_straights":true

 

[Xarpho]

Call it an unpopular opinion, but I'm willing to bet Pewds may have made an account here, as he has been popping up on our radar quite a bit recently. If not a member, he is at least proven to be a long time lurker. If he is it's a shame he can never come forward, mostly due to the idiots that follow his every action

Could you imagine it, though? Even linking to Kiwi Farms is probably already enough fuel to the fire to the "PewDiePie = Nazi" crowd to raise another stink, but a verified PDP account will be enough to have "POPULAR YOUTUBE PERSONALITY MEMBER OF HATE SITE" headlines ricochet across the Internet.

 

[hambeerlyingnreed]

I wonder what this javascript does: "secret_assign_straights":true

I think the secret_assign is a way to encrypt the password. Donno about the straights part.

 

[MetalParakeet]

This is fucked up, but I've never once thought about paying money for a service that I know should be done in-person. Of course this is me with money and connections talking, but even some dude you've played Overwatch with for the past 3 years would be a better counselor than some name of a "professional" on a screen.

I totally believe that some YouTubers indeed suffer from depression, whether caused by YouTube (in the same strain that social media can exacerbate certain feelings of anxiety, low self-worth, etc.) or having been present before they created a channel, but I just don't see the logic in buying counseling on the Internet or through an app. That's not how therapy fucking works, that's never how it worked. You need someone to sit you down and have a few sessions with you in person. They need to see you, study your behaviors, get to actually know you, not what you put in a text message. If anything, these sorts of apps should be supplementary to your therapy, not the sole source of it.

I guess a bit of this ire is directed towards people who think that their mental illness can be fixed with a mouse click. It can't, and in some extreme cases it will get worse unless there is medical intervention involved. For those who cannot afford the doctor's appointments, I do not have a solution other than find someone to just talk things through with. Talk therapy wasn't all the rage in Freud's day for nothing.

I think you underestimate the power of online therapy. There's plenty of legitimate services that offer therapy via webcam.

I'm talking legitimate insurance accepting, high success rate clinics.