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What the fuck was the plan for obtaining water? Seems like they had the beginning of a plan for shelter, septic tank, bedding, cooking, etc but not water. In a desert.
Greta Gustava Martela / Kjel Anderson & Nina Chaubal / Niraj Chaubal - Stole $350k+ from Trans Lifeline, kill count of 2+ from negligence, Founders of Sisterwood/La Zorra.
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They were going to hire someone to drill for it, but apparently have no clue whether it's actually there or not.
The guys they were going to hire informed them they actually need water to drill for water and where were they planning on getting that, and on top of that, their vehicles would sink in the sand and how did they plan on dealing with that?
The troons had no idea and acted like they were smarter than the people who actually do that shit for a living.
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Anyone that questions Greta's motives, beliefs, or even her vision of La Zorra receives rather harsh words or action in response. We've seen this on social media and with her side trip to hassle Null.
It wouldn't surprise me if Saline or the others who had construction trade skill pointed out important details to Greta such as the need for proper stabilization and sanitation and what resources would be necessary for those only to have Greta bite their heads off and insist everything be done her way. Whether Saline and company left on their own or were forced out, I believe they feel better off not having to deal with the stress of Greta hindering, stymieing, and flat out obstructing their efforts to make LaZorra as structurally sound as possible.
We know from their time at TLL that Greta & Nina did little to nothing associated with the hotline's day to day operations. Yet, they drew a generous salary and possibly other reimbursements for their cross-country wandering while the lower-level people were expected to keep the company running.
As such, it wouldn't be surprising that Greta expected everyone she recruited to help set up La Zorra to provide their time, knowledge, and resources for free with nothing of value being offered in consideration - not even a simple thank you. Most people that ask a buddy to help them with a construction or renovation project would show some gratitude and offer some combination of pay and one or more meals and beverages of choice to make the time sacrifice worthwhile.
When Greta didn't get as many troons knowledgeable in construction trade to help with La Zorra, it was almost comical to see her schmoozing with Fire, ADF, and other troon NEETs who avoid strenuous activity at all costs. Did Greta really think these people would find it a good idea to come out to the desert and perform strenuous labor in the desert and do it simply because she asked? It's one thing to do no-effort activities that include blindly liking, agreeing with, or signal boosting social media posts. It's another thing to actually do something tangible that requires physical effort. That said, I wonder how mad Greta is that more troons didn't drop everything and blindly answer her call for free labor to help build La Zorra. Saying no to her usually comes with consequence.
Are we going to talk about what the fuck this is supposed to be?
Count me in with those that believe the shape to be a model of one of the geodesic-style domes proposed as structures to provide any or all of: housing, storage, or pot-producing facilities.
Further, I believe that Greta or Nina even posted pictures of triangular or hexagonal segments intended to make up these domes. Like everything else associated with the project, however, it turned out to be an incomplete mess of a pipe dream that never really appeared to viable from the get-go.
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I dunno, man. I see dead shit on the road in the desert with flies and maggots on it all the time. But whatever. Flies or not, the place is a disgusting shithole.
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Hotel Trannyfornia.
Carrion is probably more useful to flies than processed human food. I would think it'd retain water better. But that's just my armchair opinion.
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Weren't there also cases of leprosy and bubonic plague in that neck of the woods? I seem to recall hearing some years back that rodents were carrying fleas that had the plague. Can't remember where I heard the leprosy was coming from though.
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The only other animal that carries leprosy is the armadillo.
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Honestly, it's a shithole, but I've seen much, much worse. Part-time, year-round, long or short term, "homesteads" frequently end up this bad and worse. You have to be on your game to maintain a tidy rural shack. At least it's in the desert, and not in an uninhabitable swamp like Georgia.
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To call it a homestead would mean someone has to actually live there. It's literally just a steel container baking in the sun and sometimes Greta shows up their to strew some trash around.
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LOL my land in GA is way more inhabitable than this. Food can be grown it's more temperate
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Where? I've seen a homeless guy's basement squat heated by the redirected heat from a street level steam vent with a half-full 55 gallon drum of piss that was better than that.
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Please tell us more about when you lost your virginity.
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Given the odds of their exploration turning into a Troony version of The Hills Have Eyes, I'm recommending the Kiwi Field Agent get some sort of medal for bravery.
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I can't say I'm surprised but wow, it literally looks like a homeless crackhead/junkie squat, not a place where people who supposedly have their shit together live or even camp. Are there bears or other large carnivores in the area? I'd actually be more concerned about that than rattlesnakes since snakes will generally leave you alone as long as you leave them alone and watch where you step/place hands/etc, while as things like bears and coyotes can and will attack especially if they've been habituated to humans (and leaving trash out where they can get it and in general attracting them to human dwellings is a great way to do that). Hell even the foxes might be an issue if one has rabies or another disease or picks a fight with their dog. Plus rodents, which can carry Lyme and other diseases.
And hell, didn't they mention La Troona is in the range of an endangered tortoise? Tortoises will often try to eat anything colorful thinking it's a fruit or flower, so one could end up eating some garbage by mistake and end up sick or dead as a result.
Seriously, they could at least pick up some trash bags from the dollar store to put the trash in and haul the bags out and dispose of them properly when they go back to town. Or burn the trash. Anything other than just throwing it aimlessly around desert.
EDIT: the snakes could still be an issue with the dog, since unless the dog has had snake avoidence training or they keep a close eye on it at all times (both of which I doubt) it could end up picking a fight with a rattlesnake and loosing. I want to believe that Greta and Nina at least know better than to mess with rattlesnakes themselves, but you never know. People can be amazingly stupid when it comes to snakes.
And hell, didn't they mention La Troona is in the range of an endangered tortoise? Tortoises will often try to eat anything colorful thinking it's a fruit or flower, so one could end up eating some garbage by mistake and end up sick or dead as a result.
Seriously, they could at least pick up some trash bags from the dollar store to put the trash in and haul the bags out and dispose of them properly when they go back to town. Or burn the trash. Anything other than just throwing it aimlessly around desert.
EDIT: the snakes could still be an issue with the dog, since unless the dog has had snake avoidence training or they keep a close eye on it at all times (both of which I doubt) it could end up picking a fight with a rattlesnake and loosing. I want to believe that Greta and Nina at least know better than to mess with rattlesnakes themselves, but you never know. People can be amazingly stupid when it comes to snakes.
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Hantavirus and bubonic plague (as mentioned by @Coldgrip ), both carried by rodents and endemic to the area, are likely candidates, though. So their filthy habits are literally life-threatening.
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This is the loot.
Ah, the rare ikea headdress; +2% dr, +3 to urban charm, retails at a reasonable $5 or 10 caps.
For real though it looks like an ikea lamp shade to me.
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You promised these kids Krabby The Clown,You forgot a pic Null
But all I saw was
Troony The Scammer.
It looks like the kind of place that you'd find a dead body buried under.
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It's the Mojave Desert. I don't think there are going to be bears. There are definitely coyotes in the region.
Rattlesnakes would be attracted by the rats, ground squirrels, and other prey they're attracting by being filthy slobs leaving garbage all over the place, since at least some of that stuff is edible. So would coyotes. They could literally end up with bubonic plague just by being foul, filthy troons.
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Armadillos have hairy bellies. It's really kind of startling to see it, like when they're dead on the side of the road.
Can't imagine any bears in the desert. But probably coyotes. That dog of theirs is going to end up as a coyote snack.
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Coyotes out there are not going to be habituated to people. If anything they'll be extra cautious because the few people they encounter are likely to shoot at them.