Disaster Twitter bans misgendering and deadnaming in pro-trans move - The troon ride never ends

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/11/23/twitter-misgendering-deadnaming-trans/
Twitter has prohibited misgendering and deadnaming on its platform in an effort to curtail anti-trans abuse.

The social media company has changed its rules to ban the practices and has warned that any user who deliberately targets a trans person in these ways may face permanent suspension.

These offensive techniques—which involve using the wrong gender to refer to a trans person or a trans person’s old name—are often used on Twitter to insult and erase trans people’s identities and right to exist.

In Twitter’s updated terms of service, the company states: “We prohibit targeting individuals with repeated slurs, tropes or other content that intends to dehumanise, degrade or reinforce negative or harmful stereotypes about a protected category.

“This includes targeted misgendering or deadnaming of transgender individuals.”

The move, which was made in late October but only broadly noticed on the platform on Friday (November 23), also involved adding a section in which Twitter acknowledges that LGBT+ people suffer abuse online more than most.

“We recognise that if people experience abuse on Twitter, it can jeopardise their ability to express themselves,” the paragraph begins.

“Research has shown that some groups of people are disproportionately targeted with abuse online.

“This includes; women, people of colour, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, intersex, asexual individuals, marginalised and historically underrepresented communities,” it continues.

“For those who identity [sic] with multiple underrepresented groups, abuse may be more common, more severe in nature and have a higher impact on those targeted.”

The social media giant has also created a new section of its terms of service, called “Consequences,” in which explains the actions it is pledging to take against offenders.

Twitter has promised to permanently suspend any account which either breaks the rules too many times or is “engaging primarily in abusive behaviour.”

Users who are “deemed to have shared a violent threat” will also be banned from the platform, the company has stated.

Many Twitter users have praised the change, which they hope will lead to more abusive accounts being suspended or banned completely.

One tweeted: “nb deadnaming and misgendering are now prohibited on Twitter. which is very good news!”

Another said: “Excellent news everyone: Twitter has finally updated their TOS such that misgendering/deadnaming a trans person is against the site’s rules. Happy hunting.”

“I was skeptical (because it’s twitter) but yeah, the TOS is pretty clear. Repeated misgendering and/or deadnaming is specifically listed. Excellent,” tweeted yet another fan of the policy shift.

However, there was also hesitancy from many who doubted that the changes in Twitter’s terms of service would be enforced when abusive users were reported.

One such user wrote: “Good start. We’ll have to see if reporting is meaningful or the policy enforced.”

Another tweeted: “like they’ll ever enforce it seriously.”

And a different user commented: “apparently twitter updated its rules to specify that targeted deadnaming and misgendering of trans people isnt allowed but im calling it now that they wont enforce this rule.”
Somebody ought to tell Jack that 1984 wasn't supposed to be an instruction manual
 
I kinda regret never being on twitter, because this would be a wonderful time to have my account go down in flames.

Also, can you go on a "deadnaming" spree using your regular account name, then immediately after say you've transitioned, so any screenshots of your deadnaming are deadnaming you? I mean, it's a bit hard to wrap one's mind around the time-travel like shenanigans that go on when revising history, but I've done this out on the white board several times now, and it looks like it should work, if my calculations are correct.
 
I kinda regret never being on twitter, because this would be a wonderful time to have my account go down in flames.

Also, can you go on a "deadnaming" spree using your regular account name, then immediately after say you've transitioned, so any screenshots of your deadnaming are deadnaming you? I mean, it's a bit hard to wrap one's mind around the time-travel like shenanigans that go on when revising history, but I've done this out on the white board several times now, and it looks like it should work, if my calculations are correct.
All these leftists tech companies selectively enforce. Twitch used to have little in the way of their TOS and it was never really enforced unless someone didn't like you specifically. Now they have a extremely broad TOS rules that they enforce unless they like you. You are pretty well protected by these companies no matter your actions as long as you are On The Right Side Of History. Or a filthy turkroach likes staring at your tits.
 
The problem with Twitter is the character limit discourages people to cite sources or come up with real, solid arguments, and if they do they have to sextuple post like a sperg. So it's just devolved into morons making broad-ass statements and crying about how the broad ass statements actually mean something else than the intended meaning because they're so goddam broad.

It's a complete garbage fire of a system.
 
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There's no category of name-changers that's protected in any way other than this. I mean, when you change your name, in many places you have to put a notice in the newspaper--it's public record, and to make sure you're not defrauding anyone.

Saying Charlie Sheen's birth name is Carlos Estevez is fine. Saying Mitch McConnell's actual first name is Addison is fine. Saying Mohammed Ali was born Cassius Clay is fine. Saying Hillary Clinton's birth surname was Rodham, and her husband's birth surname was Blythe, is fine. We acknowledge that sometimes people change their names because they get married, or are adopted, or convert to another religion, or want to seem more white, or just prefer their middle name over their first name, and that's okay--but they're not hiding it. They're not pretending like Past Them that was named something else is dead.

That's the thing that always gets me - there's a serious denial of reality that is encouraged. It sorta reminds me of how thinking all your problems will go away if you lose a shit ton of weight is considered a red flag for an eating disorder. This feels similarly unhealthy because changing your name doesn't (and shouldn't) mean that anything you did under your previous name never happened, and even further, that person either died or never existed.

I mean, people are fucking assholes sometimes, and I think banning people for deadnaming is basically banning people for being an asshole. If you banned everyone who caused emotional distress, there wouldn't be a Twitter to begin with.
 
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That's the thing that always gets me - there's a serious denial of reality that is encouraged. It sorta reminds me of how thinking all your problems will go away if you lose a shit ton of weight is considered a red flag for an eating disorder. This feels similarly unhealthy because changing your name doesn't (and shouldn't) mean that anything you did under your previous name never happened, and even further, that person either died or never existed.

I mean, people are fucking assholes sometimes, and I think banning people for deadnaming is basically banning people for being an asshole. If you banned everyone who caused emotional distress, there wouldn't be a Twitter to begin with.

It's just yet another crock of shit where troons blow up some minor slight into the worst thing that happened to anyone ever.
 
That meme really only works when the NPC's are espousing opinions that are in-line with the establishment (for want of a better word).
I don't really agree only because you can argue that the "establishment" is whatever circle or bubble you can comfortably exist in and block out dissenting views. Twitter isn't the government but it's still huge. A forum like Resetera or SA aren't nearly as big but they're still "the establishment" within their tiny little zone.

Kiwi Farms doesn't punish people for wrongthink, but the reason for that is not because it's impossible. Arguing that "well it's not the government" is where the cucks get their "it's a private business they can do what they want" empty-headed dismissal.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/29/opinion/twitter-deadnaming-ban-free-speech.html

How Twitter’s Ban on ‘Deadnaming’ Promotes Free Speech
Trans people are less likely to speak up if they know they’re going to be constantly told they don’t exist.


In September, Twitter announced changes to its “hateful conduct” policy, violations of which can get users temporarily or permanently barred from the site. The updates, an entry on Twitter’s blog explained, would expand its existing rules “to include content that dehumanizes others based on their membership in an identifiable group, even when the material does not include a direct target.” A little more than a month later, the company quietly rolled out the update, expanding the conduct page from 374 to 1,226 words, which went largely unnoticed until this past week.

While much of the basic framework stayed the same, the latest version leaves much less up for interpretation. Its ban on “repeated and/or non-consensual slurs, epithets, racist and sexist tropes, or other content that degrades someone” was expanded to read: “We prohibit targeting individuals with repeated slurs, tropes or other content that intends to dehumanize, degrade or reinforce negative or harmful stereotypes about a protected category. This includes targeted misgendering or deadnaming of transgender individuals.”

The final sentence, paired with the fact that the site appeared poised to actually enforce its rules, sent a rumble through certain vocal corners of the internet. To trans people, it represented a recognition that our identity is an accepted fact and that to suggest otherwise is a slur. But to many on the right, it reeked of censorship and “political correctness.”

Twitter is already putting the policy into effect. Last week, it booted Meghan Murphy, a Canadian feminist who runs the website Feminist Current. Ms. Murphy hasn’t exactly supported trans people — especially trans women. She regularly calls trans women “he” and “him,” as she did referring to the journalist and trans woman Shon Faye in a 2017 article. In the run-up to her suspension, Ms. Murphy tweeted that “men aren’t women.” While this is a seeming innocuous phrase when considered without context, the “men” she was referring to were trans women.

Kenan Malik argued that banning misgendering will shut down debate on trans issues and strike a blow to free speech. But in fact, the content free-for-all chills speech by allowing the dominant to control the parameters of debate, never letting discussion proceed past the pedantic obsession with names and pronouns.

I tend to be somewhat shy about media appearances, especially when it comes to TV. In the back of my mind, whenever I’m invited on, I wonder whether I’ll be able to discuss the day’s topic or whether I’m going to get roped into a debate over my own existence. I know many trans people who feel the same. If this isn’t harassment, I don’t know what is. Aside from the harm it does to trans people, it also impedes the free flow of ideas and debate, in the same way that conservatives often accuse student protesters of shutting down speech on college campuses.

Sometimes, as the logic behind the campus speaker argument would dictate, we have to set parameters on speech if we want to actually have a debate on the issues, which, in the case of trans people, are certainly not in short supply.

This Town Once Feared the 10-Story Waves. Then the Extreme Surfers Showed Up.
Many Ways to Be a Girl, but One Way to Be a Boy: The New Gender Rules
Justin Trudeau’s Official Home: Unfit for a Leader or Anyone Else


There’s another free-speech argument in favor of Twitter’s policy. Consider what the conservative commentator Ben Shapiro wrote about the propensity to label President Trump “racist” in a January editorial for National Review:

Is this framework useful? Perhaps Trump is a racist. Perhaps not. Either way, we can have a productive conversation about whether particular Trump statements or actions are racist. But we can’t have a productive conversation that starts from the premise that Trump is a racist overall, and that every action he takes and every statement he makes is therefore covered with the patina of racism. That conversation is about insults, not truth.

Mr. Shapiro, who is himself a critic of trans individuals and policies that support us, makes an excellent argument for finding a productive framework for useful conversation. Just as we can’t actually address the merits of any particular policy proposed by Mr. Trump if our focus is solely on the man himself, we can’t address the merits of policies that affect trans people if debate starts from the premise that trans people are and will always be whatever happens to be stamped on our original birth certificates. And as Mr. Shapiro notes, while there may or may not be truth to the statement that Mr. Trump is a racist, any discussion had through that lens will be “about insults, not truth.”

If we want more and better speech on this topic, even among trans critics, Twitter’s policy gives us the framework we need to reset our thinking. To date, we’ve put semantics over substance.

Take the discussion following The Times’s Oct. 21 report that the Trump administration was contemplating changes to federal policy that would effectively have trans people “defined out of existence.” The response from trans people and our allies was that “we won’t be erased”; the response from social conservatives tended to be that the administration was making the right call.

In both cases, the focus was almost universally on whether or not trans women are actually women and trans men are actually men. Rather than having a robust discussion about what practical effects a change to the Department of Health and Human Services definition of sex and gender might have — for instance, it could give rise to even more rampant discrimination than trans people already face, an uptick in gender-specific exclusions from insurance policies and more — we found ourselves mired in the same stalemate.

Sadly, this is what passes for “debate” on trans issues: less a look at what any proposed policy would actually accomplish and much more of a focus on trans people as a concept.


But we’re not concepts, ideologies or philosophical questions to be pondered. We’re human beings, and we’re more than eager to engage in good-faith discussion about policies that affect us: what role trans people can or should play in the military, what rules should exist on the topic of trans athletes, what steps trans people should have to take to update our legal identity documents or what needs to be done to ensure the safety and privacy of all people in sex-segregated spaces like bathrooms or shelters.

@ParkerMolloy) is a Chicago-based writer and editor at large at Media Matters for America.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/29/opinion/twitter-deadnaming-ban-free-speech.html

How Twitter’s Ban on ‘Deadnaming’ Promotes Free Speech
Trans people are less likely to speak up if they know they’re going to be constantly told they don’t exist.


In September, Twitter announced changes to its “hateful conduct” policy, violations of which can get users temporarily or permanently barred from the site. The updates, an entry on Twitter’s blog explained, would expand its existing rules “to include content that dehumanizes others based on their membership in an identifiable group, even when the material does not include a direct target.” A little more than a month later, the company quietly rolled out the update, expanding the conduct page from 374 to 1,226 words, which went largely unnoticed until this past week.

While much of the basic framework stayed the same, the latest version leaves much less up for interpretation. Its ban on “repeated and/or non-consensual slurs, epithets, racist and sexist tropes, or other content that degrades someone” was expanded to read: “We prohibit targeting individuals with repeated slurs, tropes or other content that intends to dehumanize, degrade or reinforce negative or harmful stereotypes about a protected category. This includes targeted misgendering or deadnaming of transgender individuals.”

The final sentence, paired with the fact that the site appeared poised to actually enforce its rules, sent a rumble through certain vocal corners of the internet. To trans people, it represented a recognition that our identity is an accepted fact and that to suggest otherwise is a slur. But to many on the right, it reeked of censorship and “political correctness.”

Twitter is already putting the policy into effect. Last week, it booted Meghan Murphy, a Canadian feminist who runs the website Feminist Current. Ms. Murphy hasn’t exactly supported trans people — especially trans women. She regularly calls trans women “he” and “him,” as she did referring to the journalist and trans woman Shon Faye in a 2017 article. In the run-up to her suspension, Ms. Murphy tweeted that “men aren’t women.” While this is a seeming innocuous phrase when considered without context, the “men” she was referring to were trans women.

Kenan Malik argued that banning misgendering will shut down debate on trans issues and strike a blow to free speech. But in fact, the content free-for-all chills speech by allowing the dominant to control the parameters of debate, never letting discussion proceed past the pedantic obsession with names and pronouns.

I tend to be somewhat shy about media appearances, especially when it comes to TV. In the back of my mind, whenever I’m invited on, I wonder whether I’ll be able to discuss the day’s topic or whether I’m going to get roped into a debate over my own existence. I know many trans people who feel the same. If this isn’t harassment, I don’t know what is. Aside from the harm it does to trans people, it also impedes the free flow of ideas and debate, in the same way that conservatives often accuse student protesters of shutting down speech on college campuses.

Sometimes, as the logic behind the campus speaker argument would dictate, we have to set parameters on speech if we want to actually have a debate on the issues, which, in the case of trans people, are certainly not in short supply.

This Town Once Feared the 10-Story Waves. Then the Extreme Surfers Showed Up.
Many Ways to Be a Girl, but One Way to Be a Boy: The New Gender Rules
Justin Trudeau’s Official Home: Unfit for a Leader or Anyone Else


There’s another free-speech argument in favor of Twitter’s policy. Consider what the conservative commentator Ben Shapiro wrote about the propensity to label President Trump “racist” in a January editorial for National Review:

Is this framework useful? Perhaps Trump is a racist. Perhaps not. Either way, we can have a productive conversation about whether particular Trump statements or actions are racist. But we can’t have a productive conversation that starts from the premise that Trump is a racist overall, and that every action he takes and every statement he makes is therefore covered with the patina of racism. That conversation is about insults, not truth.

Mr. Shapiro, who is himself a critic of trans individuals and policies that support us, makes an excellent argument for finding a productive framework for useful conversation. Just as we can’t actually address the merits of any particular policy proposed by Mr. Trump if our focus is solely on the man himself, we can’t address the merits of policies that affect trans people if debate starts from the premise that trans people are and will always be whatever happens to be stamped on our original birth certificates. And as Mr. Shapiro notes, while there may or may not be truth to the statement that Mr. Trump is a racist, any discussion had through that lens will be “about insults, not truth.”

If we want more and better speech on this topic, even among trans critics, Twitter’s policy gives us the framework we need to reset our thinking. To date, we’ve put semantics over substance.

Take the discussion following The Times’s Oct. 21 report that the Trump administration was contemplating changes to federal policy that would effectively have trans people “defined out of existence.” The response from trans people and our allies was that “we won’t be erased”; the response from social conservatives tended to be that the administration was making the right call.

In both cases, the focus was almost universally on whether or not trans women are actually women and trans men are actually men. Rather than having a robust discussion about what practical effects a change to the Department of Health and Human Services definition of sex and gender might have — for instance, it could give rise to even more rampant discrimination than trans people already face, an uptick in gender-specific exclusions from insurance policies and more — we found ourselves mired in the same stalemate.

Sadly, this is what passes for “debate” on trans issues: less a look at what any proposed policy would actually accomplish and much more of a focus on trans people as a concept.


But we’re not concepts, ideologies or philosophical questions to be pondered. We’re human beings, and we’re more than eager to engage in good-faith discussion about policies that affect us: what role trans people can or should play in the military, what rules should exist on the topic of trans athletes, what steps trans people should have to take to update our legal identity documents or what needs to be done to ensure the safety and privacy of all people in sex-segregated spaces like bathrooms or shelters.

@ParkerMolloy) is a Chicago-based writer and editor at large at Media Matters for America.
Hang on... censoring speech makes more free speech? Do these people not understand what freedom is?
I guess you'll be free if you say and think the right things.
 
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/29/opinion/twitter-deadnaming-ban-free-speech.html
How Twitter’s Ban on ‘Deadnaming’ Promotes Free Speech
Trans people are less likely to speak up if they know they’re going to be constantly told they don’t exist.


In September, Twitter announced changes to its “hateful conduct” policy, violations of which can get users temporarily or permanently barred from the site. The updates, an entry on Twitter’s blog explained, would expand its existing rules “to include content that dehumanizes others based on their membership in an identifiable group, even when the material does not include a direct target.” A little more than a month later, the company quietly rolled out the update, expanding the conduct page from 374 to 1,226 words, which went largely unnoticed until this past week.

While much of the basic framework stayed the same, the latest version leaves much less up for interpretation. Its ban on “repeated and/or non-consensual slurs, epithets, racist and sexist tropes, or other content that degrades someone” was expanded to read: “We prohibit targeting individuals with repeated slurs, tropes or other content that intends to dehumanize, degrade or reinforce negative or harmful stereotypes about a protected category. This includes targeted misgendering or deadnaming of transgender individuals.”

The final sentence, paired with the fact that the site appeared poised to actually enforce its rules, sent a rumble through certain vocal corners of the internet. To trans people, it represented a recognition that our identity is an accepted fact and that to suggest otherwise is a slur. But to many on the right, it reeked of censorship and “political correctness.”

Twitter is already putting the policy into effect. Last week, it booted Meghan Murphy, a Canadian feminist who runs the website Feminist Current. Ms. Murphy hasn’t exactly supported trans people — especially trans women. She regularly calls trans women “he” and “him,” as she did referring to the journalist and trans woman Shon Faye in a 2017 article. In the run-up to her suspension, Ms. Murphy tweeted that “men aren’t women.” While this is a seeming innocuous phrase when considered without context, the “men” she was referring to were trans women.

Kenan Malik argued that banning misgendering will shut down debate on trans issues and strike a blow to free speech. But in fact, the content free-for-all chills speech by allowing the dominant to control the parameters of debate, never letting discussion proceed past the pedantic obsession with names and pronouns.

I tend to be somewhat shy about media appearances, especially when it comes to TV. In the back of my mind, whenever I’m invited on, I wonder whether I’ll be able to discuss the day’s topic or whether I’m going to get roped into a debate over my own existence. I know many trans people who feel the same. If this isn’t harassment, I don’t know what is. Aside from the harm it does to trans people, it also impedes the free flow of ideas and debate, in the same way that conservatives often accuse student protesters of shutting down speech on college campuses.

Sometimes, as the logic behind the campus speaker argument would dictate, we have to set parameters on speech if we want to actually have a debate on the issues, which, in the case of trans people, are certainly not in short supply.

This Town Once Feared the 10-Story Waves. Then the Extreme Surfers Showed Up.
Many Ways to Be a Girl, but One Way to Be a Boy: The New Gender Rules
Justin Trudeau’s Official Home: Unfit for a Leader or Anyone Else


There’s another free-speech argument in favor of Twitter’s policy. Consider what the conservative commentator Ben Shapiro wrote about the propensity to label President Trump “racist” in a January editorial for National Review:

Is this framework useful? Perhaps Trump is a racist. Perhaps not. Either way, we can have a productive conversation about whether particular Trump statements or actions are racist. But we can’t have a productive conversation that starts from the premise that Trump is a racist overall, and that every action he takes and every statement he makes is therefore covered with the patina of racism. That conversation is about insults, not truth.

Mr. Shapiro, who is himself a critic of trans individuals and policies that support us, makes an excellent argument for finding a productive framework for useful conversation. Just as we can’t actually address the merits of any particular policy proposed by Mr. Trump if our focus is solely on the man himself, we can’t address the merits of policies that affect trans people if debate starts from the premise that trans people are and will always be whatever happens to be stamped on our original birth certificates. And as Mr. Shapiro notes, while there may or may not be truth to the statement that Mr. Trump is a racist, any discussion had through that lens will be “about insults, not truth.”

If we want more and better speech on this topic, even among trans critics, Twitter’s policy gives us the framework we need to reset our thinking. To date, we’ve put semantics over substance.

Take the discussion following The Times’s Oct. 21 report that the Trump administration was contemplating changes to federal policy that would effectively have trans people “defined out of existence.” The response from trans people and our allies was that “we won’t be erased”; the response from social conservatives tended to be that the administration was making the right call.

In both cases, the focus was almost universally on whether or not trans women are actually women and trans men are actually men. Rather than having a robust discussion about what practical effects a change to the Department of Health and Human Services definition of sex and gender might have — for instance, it could give rise to even more rampant discrimination than trans people already face, an uptick in gender-specific exclusions from insurance policies and more — we found ourselves mired in the same stalemate.

Sadly, this is what passes for “debate” on trans issues: less a look at what any proposed policy would actually accomplish and much more of a focus on trans people as a concept.


But we’re not concepts, ideologies or philosophical questions to be pondered. We’re human beings, and we’re more than eager to engage in good-faith discussion about policies that affect us: what role trans people can or should play in the military, what rules should exist on the topic of trans athletes, what steps trans people should have to take to update our legal identity documents or what needs to be done to ensure the safety and privacy of all people in sex-segregated spaces like bathrooms or shelters.

@ParkerMolloy) is a Chicago-based writer and editor at large at Media Matters for America.
Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. We were always at war with WHITE CIS MALE SHITLORDS.
 

"How Censorship is Free Speech"

Lol no.

And this is from the New York Times. And people wonder why "fake news" is a thing.

Hang on... censoring speech makes more free speech? Do these people not understand what freedom is?
I guess you'll be free if you say and think the right things.

At some point, the other side is so fucking insane that communication is impossible and you just have to kill them.
 
Twitter was already a shithole, but this?... This is probably the final nail in the coffin. Keep in mind, this opens the flood gates for reporting people you don't like, claiming to be a transgender (Whether truth or falsehood), and saying they deadnamed or misgendered you.

I get the feeling that Twitter will be joining Myspace in the swamps of obsolescence within a couple of years. Twitter is already hemorrhaging actual users as is (We aren't counting bots or alt accounts), so this should be the silver bullet.
 
1) Be male feminist. Grope/send dick pics/sexually assault women.
2) Women name and shame on Twitter.
3) You troon out, claim that their proof is harassment because it features your birth name and that'll literally murder you 498,706 times.
4) Accusers banned from Twitter.

This has already happened, except it wasn't a male feminist. Jonathan "is it weird to ask a 10-12 year old girl for a pad? Or a tampon?" Yaniv (thread) has used these new tranny delusion rules to nuke Twitter and Wordpress accounts detailing his insanity. This is despite the fact that he's so clearly a man most of his active social media accounts still use his masculine "dead name."

Murderers, rapists and pedophiles rejoice. You've just found your second shot at life.
 
I get the feeling that Twitter will be joining Myspace in the swamps of obsolescence within a couple of years. Twitter is already hemorrhaging actual users as is (We aren't counting bots or alt accounts), so this should be the silver bullet.

I think most social media is headding that way, there are a few Celebrities who used to be balls the wall fans of Social media are opening saying "Well you know it hasn't been that great" and are leaving platforms especially twitter.
 
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I think most social media is headding that way, there are a few Celebrities who used to be balls the wall fans of Social media are opening saying "Well you know it hasn't been that great" and are leaving platforms especially twitter.

It's really become impossible to be woke enough to satisfy the slavering hordes of SJW shitbags, especially since they keep changing what woke is. Miss a memo and you're shit forever.
 
It's really become impossible to be woke enough to satisfy the slavering hordes of SJW shitbags, especially since they keep changing what woke is. Miss a memo and you're shit forever.

Very true and a lot of them don't have the spine to stand up to any backlash, take Adam Savage he tries to be Woke but makes normal jokes or movie referances that are innocuious and then get's RRRRREEEEEEE'd at and appologises when he just should take a stand and say "Nope it's a joke, you find it funny or you don't" having said that he's part of the "Maker" (the arduinos an cosplay kind) community and that's prety much infested at this point.
 
It's really become impossible to be woke enough to satisfy the slavering hordes of SJW shitbags, especially since they keep changing what woke is. Miss a memo and you're shit forever.
Unless you’re a black woman or tranny. They can do no wrong.
 
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