Inactive John S. Bulla / @Paul45thomas / @BullaStephen / @StephenBulla - "God's only friend"

[RodgerDodger]

I wonder if Bulla's Mum ExParte petitioned him?

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I doubt if she would have to. It’s pretty clear his Mother had some measure of formal Power of Attorney and Civil Guardianship over him already. We don’t know much regarding John’s Prior incidents and conviction (s?). But I rathersuspect he was essentially declared incompetent in at least some regards, back then. His mother wouldn’t be filing anything “ex-parte”. She would appear to already be his advocate.

Given how quickly this happened, and without any formal court action, I suspect John already was viewed as incompetent, and faced either Civil Commital or Jail from the prior incidents. Remember that prior incident involved analy raping a child. There is a pretty clear path to ongoing danger to self/others there. I’m assuming there was not a need for a new formal hearing and ruling regarding this latest incident. Whatever was in place from the prior likely triggered, and everyone agreed it was probably better to put the incompetent lunatic in the nut house, rather than setting him up to be gang raped (sexually) by Salvadoran Gang Bangers.

I do have to wonder what will happen to him once his mother dies? Is their anyone else to assume guardianship? I know the PoA is transferred or granted to the facility to medicate him and provide the involuntary treatment, but I don’t think that is all encompassing or permanent?

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

I doubt if she would have to. It’s pretty clear his Mother had some measure of formal Power of Attorney and Civil Guardianship over him already. We don’t know much regarding John’s Prior incidents and conviction (s?). But I rathersuspect he was essentially declared incompetent in at least some regards, back then. His mother wouldn’t be filing anything “ex-parte”. She would appear to already be his advocate.

Given how quickly this happened, and without any formal court action, I suspect John already was viewed as incompetent, and faced either Civil Commital or Jail from the prior incidents. Remember that prior incident involved analy raping a child. There is a pretty clear path to ongoing danger to self/others there. I’m assuming there was not a need for a new formal hearing and ruling regarding this latest incident. Whatever was in place from the prior likely triggered, and everyone agreed it was probably better to put the incompetent lunatic in the nut house, rather than setting him up to be gang raped (sexually) by Salvadoran Gang Bangers.

I do have to wonder what will happen to him once his mother dies? Is their anyone else to assume guardianship? I know the PoA is transferred or granted to the facility to medicate him and provide the involuntary treatment, but I don’t think that is all encompassing or permanent?

If you go through the court documents there are references to him being evaluated by a psychiatrist to see if he was able to understand what was going on at the trial. Said psychiatrist presumably decided that he wasn't so he was involuntarily committed rather than being put on trial.

What is unclear is how long that applies. In a sane world if he's unable to understand what is happening in a trial they should keep him confined until such time that he is able to be tried and then try him. However I've got a nasty feeling that it's not like that - at some point the system will medicate him, declare him cured and let him out. At which point he'll stop taking his meds and go off the rails again.

 

[AnOminous]

However I've got a nasty feeling that it's not like that - at some point the system will medicate him, declare him cured and let him out. At which point he'll stop taking his meds and go off the rails again.

Depending on what exactly they found, they might not, although I suspect that is what is going to happen.

Florida has an "Involuntary Civil Commitment of Sexually Violent Predators Act" that allows civilly committing sex offenders indefinitely if they appear to be a risk to themselves or others. I'm not sure whether Bulla qualifies for that, but it would generally be indefinite. Of course, he appears to qualify for commitment just for general purposes because he's just that batshit crazy, so who knows?

Conceivably he could be locked up for life, but they don't like doing that because it's expensive even in a state-run snakepit.

 

[Raiken]

Auw man, i just learn of a real loon and he is already locked up.

 

[89elbees]

Auw man, i just learn of a real loon and he is already locked up.

I feel you. I found him about 2 weeks before he disappeared for almost a year in 2017. Feels like a truly missed opportunity (sexually)

 

[uncleShitHeel]

Well it's been weird watching the end of a saga.

It isn't my first, except this time it has a relatively happy ending and no geniuses died. (Sexually)

 

[Snuckening]

So he never got sentenced, just sent straight to the nut academy? How does that work? Was there a trial? And I saw the charges, but did we find out what actually happened- who were the kids he had access to?

(I did check a bunch of pages back, but couldn't find that shit; If the thread's going inactive, maybe the OP could have a bit about him getting locked up added on?)

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

So he never got sentenced, just sent straight to the nut academy? How does that work? Was there a trial?

There's no criminal trial because he's too nuts. You can't have a fair trial if the defendant is in looney land and can't even comprehend what's going on or contribute to his own defense.

And I saw the charges, but did we find out what actually happened- who were the kids he had access to?

Some nigga moment with a neighbor who thought it was a good idea to confront the crazy Florida Man while having his kids in tow. John apparently started chimping out and threatened neighbor+kids with a knife when neighbor said he was gonna call the police. Stop snitchin!

 

[AnOminous]

There's no criminal trial because he's too nuts. You can't have a fair trial if the defendant is in looney land and can't even comprehend what's going on or contribute to his own defense.

Which is why they usually stay the proceedings while getting the person treatment to the point they can participate meaningfully in their defense.

In this case, though, they flat out dropped the charges. That would mean they didn't just believe he was currently insane, but probably had an insanity defense for when he did the insane shit he was actually charged with, and/or they don't expect him to get better enough to be tried any time soon.

 

[DT 211]

Honestly this is what happens when you value jerking off alot more than actual sex
Let this be a lesson to all of you virgins

 

[RodgerDodger]

If you go through the court documents there are references to him being evaluated by a psychiatrist to see if he was able to understand what was going on at the trial. Said psychiatrist presumably decided that he wasn't so he was involuntarily committed rather than being put on trial.

What is unclear is how long that applies. In a sane world if he's unable to understand what is happening in a trial they should keep him confined until such time that he is able to be tried and then try him. However I've got a nasty feeling that it's not like that - at some point the system will medicate him, declare him cured and let him out. At which point he'll stop taking his meds and go off the rails again.

Depending on what exactly they found, they might not, although I suspect that is what is going to happen.

Florida has an "Involuntary Civil Commitment of Sexually Violent Predators Act" that allows civilly committing sex offenders indefinitely if they appear to be a risk to themselves or others. I'm not sure whether Bulla qualifies for that, but it would generally be indefinite. Of course, he appears to qualify for commitment just for general purposes because he's just that batshit crazy, so who knows?

Conceivably he could be locked up for life, but they don't like doing that because it's expensive even in a state-run snakepit.

But even then wouldn’t there still need to be something from the court regarding the Psych Evans findings? The Psychiatrists provide evidence that he is incompetent. But there still needs to be some formal court action declaring him incompetent. Not a hearing, but some order or finding from the Judge to acknowledge and affirm the eval. Does there not? I mean yeah, he’s been 2pc’d. But it still feels like something is missing. Which is why I think there was already something on the books with Bulla, and the Judge and DA just chose to view this as an extension of and within the domain of prior history, and just let whatever conditions were in place trigger without the need for further judicial action.

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

Will he have limited access to the internet? I assume they’d cut him off entirely.

 

[Done]

And I bet as long as John never tries to move back there, the neighbor will leave it alone.

I think given the statements we've heard about the state of his place, we shouldn't expect him to ever be allowed to come back in that particular spot. Doesn't preclude him from getting a place in the same neighborhood tho.

My favorite part of this saga is him discovering motel pay-per-view porno, that and the knife necklace.

So he never got sentenced, just sent straight to the nut academy? How does that work? Was there a trial? And I saw the charges, but did we find out what actually happened- who were the kids he had access to?

(I did check a bunch of pages back, but couldn't find that shit; If the thread's going inactive, maybe the OP could have a bit about him getting locked up added on?)

The police report is in the document dump I posted a few pages back. It's about 3-4 pages long iirc.

We also have multiple news stories (which are probably your best bet here, the police report is a very formal and dry read imo), plus we have @brainbleachneeded's additional testimony on the state of his house.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

But even then wouldn’t there still need to be something from the court regarding the Psych Evans findings? The Psychiatrists provide evidence that he is incompetent. But there still needs to be some formal court action declaring him incompetent. Not a hearing, but some order or finding from the Judge to acknowledge and affirm the eval. Does there not? I mean yeah, he’s been 2pc’d. But it still feels like something is missing. Which is why I think there was already something on the books with Bulla, and the Judge and DA just chose to view this as an extension of and within the domain of prior history, and just let whatever conditions were in place trigger without the need for further judicial action.

I'm not sure what you're looking for? There is such an order, it has either not been uploaded yet or it won't be uploaded because it may be exempt due to the mental side of things. That said, here's something that is available.

 

[The Lizard Queen]

I haven't kept up with this thread, and now it looks like it's all over. Oh well. Did he at least defeat the demons and get to fuck and marry Hillary Duff before this all went down? I figured he'd at least have gotten that far by now, since he seemed like such a great guy.

 

[Raiken]

But even then wouldn’t there still need to be something from the court regarding the Psych Evans findings? The Psychiatrists provide evidence that he is incompetent. But there still needs to be some formal court action declaring him incompetent. Not a hearing, but some order or finding from the Judge to acknowledge and affirm the eval. Does there not? I mean yeah, he’s been 2pc’d. But it still feels like something is missing. Which is why I think there was already something on the books with Bulla, and the Judge and DA just chose to view this as an extension of and within the domain of prior history, and just let whatever conditions were in place trigger without the need for further judicial action.

Could it be that the guy dropped the charges when it came to light he is far to nutty to go back into the real world? If ihad a chance to not see a guy ever again by doing so i would make a feast for the entire street.

 

[NQ 952]

I think given the statements we've heard about the state of his place, we shouldn't expect him to ever be allowed to come back in that particular spot. Doesn't preclude him from getting a place in the same neighborhood tho.

My favorite part of this saga is him discovering motel pay-per-view porno, that and the knife necklace.

The police report is in the document dump I posted a few pages back. It's about 3-4 pages long iirc.

We also have multiple news stories (which are probably your best bet here, the police report is a very formal and dry read imo), plus we have @brainbleachneeded's additional testimony on the state of his house.

Just the thought of a man so schizophrenic he's constantly looking past you wearing eyeglasses that are sewn into different frames and a knife necklace is possibly the most terrifying thing I can imagine.

 

[AnOminous]

But even then wouldn’t there still need to be something from the court regarding the Psych Evans findings? The Psychiatrists provide evidence that he is incompetent. But there still needs to be some formal court action declaring him incompetent. Not a hearing, but some order or finding from the Judge to acknowledge and affirm the eval. Does there not?

If there is, we wouldn't see it, because such proceedings are private. The most we'll see is his information on the sex offender site updated to put in a new mugshot and address, which might give some kind of clue.

Also he could have consented to it.

I'm not sure what you're looking for? There is such an order, it has either not been uploaded yet or it won't be uploaded because it may be exempt due to the mental side of things. That said, here's something that is available.
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Somewhere, there's probably something more verbose.

I'd guess the prosecutor didn't contest these findings anyway. Dude is obviously gone.

 

[AmpleApricots]

John always gave me the vibe of somebody who could actually hurt somebody else if the stars aligned correctly. Not even out of a bigger malicious plan mind you, just because he was that nuts. (Which is btw. all about personality and not even about schizophrenia in itself, Terry was quite nuts and he never gave me that vibe for example) I'm pretty sure he gave the specialists working with him the same vibe so if they're not forced by outside forces I'm sure he'll be gone for a long time. Then again the US mental health system looks like a total mess so who knows.

Also I'm pretty sure they'll wipe his brain clean with old-school neuroleptics, he will not get any of that fancy atypical stuff, mostly because he's probably easier to deal with that way and they are a lot cheaper. (see above re: mess) These medications are suspected to cause lasting damage, schizophrenia is degenerative and he's quite old so being in a facility is probably the best you could do for him to make him stay alive. What kind of life that is is a question for another day.

 

[mindlessobserver]

John always gave me the vibe of somebody who could actually hurt somebody else if the stars aligned correctly. Not even out of a bigger malicious plan mind you, just because he was that nuts. (Which is btw. all about personality and not even about schizophrenia in itself, Terry was quite nuts and he never gave me that vibe for example) I'm pretty sure he gave the specialists working with him the same vibe so if they're not forced by outside forces I'm sure he'll be gone for a long time. Then again the US mental health system looks like a total mess so who knows.

Also I'm pretty sure they'll wipe his brain clean with old-school neuroleptics, he will not get any of that fancy atypical stuff, mostly because he's probably easier to deal with that way and they are a lot cheaper. (see above re: mess) These medications are suspected to cause lasting damage, schizophrenia is degenerative and he's quite old so being in a facility is probably the best you could do for him to make him stay alive. What kind of life that is is a question for another day.

You just know some clerk and or shrink read this thread too before deciding to recommend committing the dude.