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I don’t think anyone really hates DSP. The sort of hate that keeps you up at night, I mean. The type of hate where if someone even mentions their name it ruins your day. I don’t think there’s anyone on this planet who get bummed out if someone says anything about Phil, with the exception of panda and she gets a pass because that’s a normal response when someone brings up an ex you wasted a lot of time dating.

I’ll even say Fred and the SoK brigade who stuck around don’t really hate the guy. Tevin only gets pissy about Phil when he’s drinking and Phil shits on him harder than usual and gets personal during a steam, but tevin gets over it pretty quick because the detractors throw money at him when Phil starts cutting a bit deeper than usual. You can tell when Tevin starts to feel bad about letting it get to him because he’ll do charity stuff or get active on mixer and leverage his detractor fame to do other stuff.

It’s not a question of black and white, or two extremes. I believe he has genuine fans, people who are apathetic, and people who have a good time making fun of him. I don’t believe people either love him or hate him, which seems to be the narrative he pushes.

Hate? No.
I'd say that DSP is actually one of my favorite channels on YT.
I never watch his streams or videos, but the TIHYDP compilations gave me hours and hours of enjoyment back in the day.
Also his antics always make my day, how can you hate such an entertaining trainwreck? :story:

The only thing i hate is when Phil mistreats his fans, abuses his power to hurt smaller channels and tries to scam people. But i don't hate Phil otherwise.
 
I mean I want to see DSP lose everything, but not because I hate him. His mental gymnastics are my favorite part of this performance and I can’t think of a better scenario than him finally failing and making one last plea to his few remaining fans, he’s either going to still be refusing to take blame, or will finally have to take a big bite of that humble pie. Either way I’ll get endless laughs out of it, though I’m personally hoping to see an old and bald Dark with 5 viewers blaming [insert head detractor here] for ruining his life.
 
Ninja was on the tonight show with Jimmy Fallon... That will annoy D$P

Random thoughts:
I think D$P would want to be famous and very well known / recognised on a large scale for his video game playing, and likely thinks that he should be a big deal

Obviously he is blind to how toxic, boring and unlikable his personality is; and how his gaming and social skills are comically bad. Example A:

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I can imagine an i/v with D$P:

Interviewer: So darksydephil, you are a streamer on twitch and YouTube right?

D$P: well yes *arrogant laugh* I'm a 10 year content creator on both platforms, and I've uploaded over 50,000 videos to YouTube. I'm probably the most prolific content creator on the internet.

Interviewer: ok right. That's a lot of video games. Haha. So outside of that what do you do for fun?

D$P: um...*nervous pause* well i...*snort* I Do a lot of things... Bills, running errands...

Interviewer: right... And I understand your moniker is the 'King of hate'? How did you get that name?

D$P: yes *goat laugh* well let me tell you about trolls...(10 mins later - has covered tevin, being phasitive, YouTube algorithms, taxes, tax attorney etc)
 
12/18/18 First Prestream - Final Fantasy IV Stream: Day 8 of The 9 Days of Streaming Begins

"Now, lets talk about the nitty gritty. Ladies and Gentlemen, as you guys can see, I'm sure. The channel has a RIDICULOUSLY high number of subs! The highest I actually hit was fifteen eighty-six, yesterday. Uh, we're at fifteeen eighty-three, right now. THAT'S mostly in part to EMERALD_SEVEN. Now, YES, there are the people who have been gifting subs and subbing themselves. But, Emerald_Seven came in and gifted an UNPRECEDENTED number of subs over the last WEEK, I would say. Probably four straight days he's been coming in, and *LIP SMACK!* gifting CRAZY amount of subs. First, he gifted, something like, FIVE HUNDRED Tier 1 subs! And over the last couple of days, he's gifted, like, THREE HUNDRED Tier 3 subs! Right? REALLY AMAZING! Obviously, this is a BIG step towards HELPING ME next year with my Tax Situation! Uhm, so, that's pretty awesome! And I'm very excited for, you know, HOPEFULLY, the fact that I can get through next year! We'll see! It's a good start! It's definitely, I'd say, I'm just estimating, because I actually DON'T KNOW how much I get from those Tier 3 subs. But I'm estimating at this point, I'm JUST UNDER halfway, to what I'm probably going to need for my Tax Situation. THAT'S A GOOD THING, man! That's a great thing, right? Uhm, so, PRETTY SWEET! And I want to say, OBVIOUSLY, thank you to Emerald_Seven for all of the support, and the help! Uhm. I, CERTAINLY, don't expect anything more. That's the thing, people are, 'Phil! When is Emerald_Seven coming back?' I don't know! LISTEN. This is just something that he's been doing, or SHE'S been doing, I don't know. Uhm, out of the kindness of their own heart, to help ME OUT, and, OBVIOUSLY, to help YOU GUYS OUT! Because, you guys have all been getting gifted subs recently. Uhm, I have no control over it! I don't know how it works! And *THROAT CLEAR* we'll see! You know? So, er, IF it happens again? AMAZING! If not? Well, at least it REALLY SIGNIFICANTLY helped me out at this point! And, I am happy about that! So, *LIP SMACK!* thank you very much to Emerald_Seven. You know, OBVIOUSLY, anyone else, who's been CONTRIBUTING, or who is planning on possibly CONTRIBUTING, uhm, in the next, you know, couple of weeks, because it's CHRISTMAS TIME! You know, Christmas events! Thank you very much for that in advance! Uhm, like I said, we've made major headway here! And we'll see what happens, you know, heading into 2019, uhm, with how my streams do and everything, that maybe I can actually get through this now! Because, we've got, PRETTY SIGNIFICANT HEAD START, at this point. Like I said, probably just under half! Of what I'm looking to raise, in order to get through this situation. And, and, THAT'S GREAT! Because, it happened within FOUR DAYS! PRETTY AWESOME, right?"

"If you would like to CONTRIBUTE, in my efforts to continue doing this for a living! Daily live streaming every single day, if I can! Uhm, and also, obviously get through my financial challenges that I'm going to have next year. There are many ways that you can contribute."
Does a plug segment.
"If you want to TIP ME, which, by the way, I should bring up, is COMPLETELY SEPARATE from any contribution that goes through Amazon or Twitch! If that is your preference, and *LEG SLAP* you don't want to do those kinds of contributions. And also, *THROAT CLEAR* TIPPING helps me tremendously! Because it's something I get right away! If you TIP ME, those are funds that can go straight towards things, like BILLS, *SMUG CHUCKLE* and other things! Okay? I want to say, thank you to ANYONE who considers TIPPING, because it does help so much! Thank you guys VERY MUCH in advance, for your help!"

"Shoutout to Slee E, who overnight TIPPED ME a dollar and said, 'Tweeted you a question on Twitter about your King of Hate website, NO RESPONSE.' Yes, Slee E, I hate to say this, but I get *sigh*, I wanna say *LEG SLAP*, in any given day, probably OVER A HUNDRED THINGS happen on my Twitter feed! And keep in mind, that's from POSITIVE PEOPLE! There's also a ridiculous amount of NASTY spams and insults, that I get from, basically, MENTALLY CHALLENGED PEOPLE who just like to be FUCKING ASSHOLES! Uhm, it's very hard for me to see and react to every single thing on Twitter. And, I, VERY VERY FREQUENTLY, miss things that people say to me on Twitter! So, I'm just saying this upfront, Don't Take It Personally! It has NOTHING to do with you! It's TOTALLY ME, being bombarded with a CRAP TON of stuff on a daily basis! All right? And, if you actually have something, that you would like a DIRECT RESPONSE about, uhm, doing it on a stream, like RIGHT NOW, is a good way. OR, if it's something that's private and you don't want to be public, you can always e-mail me, and I'll do my best to get back to you. Okay? Fair Enough? Apologies, that apparantly, there was something you wanted a response to and you didn't get it. Uhm, but hopefully, now this helps you out. Okay?"

"The problem is, the lighting is never good! Like, if I turn this light off. *Turns off lamp* I guess it's good for now. But if the sun goes away outside, then I gotta turn the light on again! I'll leave it like this for now, I guess. There's no ideal state of lighting, when I'm playing on PC. It just never is good! *LEG SLAP* There's no- I don't have a place for a lamp, or a good lamp over here, uhm, to make it look good. So, I know, it kind of sucks. I wish I could do better, but, that's just my shitty office setup here with my PC setup. *THROAT CLEAR* I told you Cookie was going to be back here. *Gestures behind him, towards his sunken in loveseat* There he is, right there. I can't reach him from here, though."

[2018-12-18 19:11:49 UTC] goldencolts: it would be better with light in front of you, your face is half in shadow

"Yeah, there's no- this is a wall! I'm not even kidding! *Gestures behind webcam* Moniter, moniter, WALL. *FAKE LAUGH* There's nowhere to put a lamp! There's no room on my desk for a lamp! And if I have a light on my face, it basically, I wouldn't be able to see! Because I'm staring at the monitor! How am I going to see? Right? I know! It's not like other people. OTHER PEOPLE have these *Flails Noodle Arms* ELABORATE OFFICE SETUPS! Where they have a desk in front of them and *Flails Noodle Arms* then their office, and they have space *T-POSE* to do all that kind of shit! *LEG SLAP* And I don't have it! My office is VERY VERY SMALL, compared to most people who do this for a living. I just don't have the resources that they have! So. *Takes a sip* Okay."

~ AFTER HIS MID-STREAM BREAK ~


"Funny story. I don't know what's going on with TMZ, covering stuff with Fortnite. But, apparantly, a fan, a viewer, just *THROAT CLEAR* sent me something on Twitter that I got a laugh out of of. *REALLY LONG AND GROSS THROAT CLEAR* Excuse me. I basically was, uh, SOMEONE tweeted me, they said, 'Phil! You're on TMZ, here's a picture!' And it was a picture of ME, playing Fortnite! Now, keep in mind, I haven't played Fortnite, in like, A YEAR! LIKE A YEAR! Okay? It's been that long! I think the last time I played Fortnite was, uhm, before I played PUBG. I think. Or around that time. Because, that's when I actually got my ONE win in Fortnite. About a year ago. Uhm, *THROAT CLEAR* and I know this for a fact, because he shows me a picture. A screencap of TMZ that he's watching, and it's a story about Fortnite, and it's gameplay of Fortnite WITH ME! My facecam! Playing! And it's the old headphones that I used to use. The white ones, the white Astros. So, this is before November of last year. So, I'm like, of all the people that you would take Fortnite video content from, and put it onto TMZ. Why in the HOLY HELL would they take mine?! Like. HUH?!?! Did they just type in 'FORTNITE' into, into YouTube, and somehow mine popped up, and they said, 'Oh, we're going to use this'?? It's just SO BIZARRE! Like, of all the people, I mean, I barely played the game! Right? I played it in September of 2017, uhm, when it came out at first. I think I played it twice, like two sessions. Then I remembered playing it again in like October or November. And then once in December. Probably played Fortnite, a total of five times, EVER. Yet, SOMEHOW, I'm the person they choose to put the video footage of *SCOFF!* on-on TMZ! On their TV show or whatever! On a story about Fortnite. *SNAKE LAUGH* That's pretty weird. I don't know. That's just bizarre to me! *GOONISH LAUGH* But, anyway, I just thought it was funny. I just retweeted it on Twitter. Like, what the hell, of all the things to randomly grab, you grab MY video!"

[2018-12-18 22:01:05 UTC] dakkysmurf: @darksydephil Now with the subs you’re gonna be a bigger fortnite streamer than ninja ;)

"I don't think so. I DON'T THINK SO. You know, for me, the day when Emerald_Seven came into my stream and gifted about, at this point, uhm, EIGHT HUNDRED or NINE HUNDRED subscriptions *SNAKE LAUGH* Right? The day when he gifted a RIDICULOUS amount of subscriptions, in order to aid me in my effort to KEEP MY HOUSE, was a special event. For Ninja, that's Tuesday! Like, that's a normal day for him. *SNAKE CHUCKLE* Where a bunch of people come in and just throw money at him, FOR NO FUCKING REASON. *THROAT CLEAR* All right. *Long Pause* Must be nice. Even when I was at the height of YouTube, right? When I was one of the biggest YouTube Gamers, for like a year and a half, two years there, *LIP SMACK!* it was never like that for me! It'd be like, 'I want to make a lot of money today', I gotta BUST MY ASS! I gotta work, you know, TEN HOURS today, playing a new release! And pumping out a ridiculous amout of videos! You know? Then I would make big money in one day! NEVER, was it like, 'Oh, I just go on stream for two hours and play stupid Fortnite. And I make like insane money!' FOR NO FUCKING REASON. *SNAKE LAUGH*
 
When I was one of the biggest YouTube Gamers, for like a year and a half, two years there, *LIP SMACK!* it was never like that for me!

It'd be like, 'I want to make a lot of money today', I gotta BUST MY ASS! I gotta work, you know, TEN HOURS today, playing a new release!

And pumping out a ridiculous amout of videos! You know? Then I would make big money in one day!

NEVER, was it like, 'Oh, I just go on stream for two hours and play stupid Fortnite. And I make like insane money!' FOR NO FUCKING REASON. *SNAKE LAUGH*[/
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Please re-read this extract from flatsoda's pre steam summary. Delusional

Gotta 'bust ass' playing a new release...

And 'pump out' a ridiculous amount of videos - I think he means cut a 3hr video into 18 x 10min clips
 
You're absolutely right. I'm not saying this is some scam that Phil's in on, but that emerald could be using a stolen credit card. The questions now are basically 1) are these subs being purchased legitimately? 2) if not, is this a fan or a troll? 3) if it's a stolen CC, will Twitch do anything to Phil for being the recipient?



Also true, but I have to feel like if someone was involved in repeated credit card fraud incidents, even if they weren't directly responsible or in on the scheme, that Twitch might get fed up and tell them to fuck off. Or, at the least, take back something to try and deter future scamming? Who knows.

Most likely scenario at this point is that absolutely nothing happens, Phil either reaches the $16k goal or gets close enough to say he did, and the cycle repeats.

I feel at this point its highly unlikely this is a stolen credit card. for sure its not a single credit card, there is no credit card in the world that will let you spend this amount of money on a single card without doing verification checks. especially on some online ebucks kind of thing like twitch.

it could be multiple stolen credit cards but i feel like twitch would have shut it down for review if this guy was buying as much as possible until its decline and then add a new card and repeat.

i would be shocked if it turns out to be stolen at this point unfortunately.

I agree. The worst thing that will happen to Dave coming out of all this is he might not get the money, and in this case only because of the scale of it. Other posters are right, I think; if there's a chargeback it's going to be in an amount Twitch won't cover.

Whether Phil owns up to that ("bullshit dood, I got paid" vs. "detractors fucking me over, guise, now me and Kat need your help more than ever! LOL!") and whether that's enough for the failtroll who pulled this are going to be the two interesting aspects of it for me.

In my opinion dave's greed is bigger than dave's ego. dont get me wrong they are both huge, but as much as dave's fragile ego cant handle saying he got owned by some troll, his greed forces him to use it as a huge oppritunity to claim to be broke and desperately need funds.

i can see him lying about a small amount to deter other people from doing chargebacks but this amount he would tell the truth about for sure.

So he doesnt pay his quarterly taxes, so now his fans need to pay his penalty fees all because the pig is too lazy to do quarterly taxes. If I was a fan I would be annoyed that Dark expects us to pay for his late fees all because he is lazy to pay the quarterly taxes or even finding a way to pay those quarterly taxes on time. But of course his cult arent like that but follow Dark even if it was over a cliff.

Just want to clarify this quarterly tax thing because i see a lot of things all over the place.

1) Dave claimed he didnt pay anything towards quarterly taxes. He originally announced his intention to not pay the quarterly early in the year and then confirmed he didnt pay them at all recently. (ofc he is a liar but this is what he said)

2) there is no penalty/interest for not making quarterly estimated tax payments. when you are self employed like dave, your taxes are not withheld from your income like if you have a job. in the usa, when you have a regular job, your employer is required to take an estimated amount from your pay check to cover the expected taxes. a lot of time this is a little more than you actually end up owing and that is why so many people get a refund.

For people like dave who are self employed, the government knows its hard to put this money in a bank account and not touch it. so many people are too tempted and spend the money and then end up totally fucked in april when taxes are officially due. this is why they high encourage the quarterly payments and a lot of people think they are required. they are not. as long as you pay the full amount owed by april 15th you are good. again the problem is if you didnt pay them, its likely you spent the money and then starting april 15th you start paying penalty and interest on the amount you couldnt pay,

its kind of funny that quarterly payments exist mainly for people like dave who has to spend every dollar in their bank account on crap.

3) the quarterly payments are based on your previous years income. as a matter of fact the CPA will compute this and give you little slips to mail to the irs every quarter for the following year when they prepare your income taxes. dave's estimate of 16k will likely end up fairly accurate because i think he is making a little more this year but there were the tax cuts also which will help him.
 
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Without the magic subs that just started showing up over halfway through the month, did he even raise a dollar more than his regular streams so far?
This would require him to take an effort to raise funds maintain an audience. If he wouldn't be so busy sniffing his fingers, scratching his beard in a 90° angle and checking his phone, he could invest some time in the thought process of how new viewers actually come in and what makes them stay. Most streamers are just able to play the game and entertain the audience, they do not have Phil's luxury which he fucks up regardless. He is well known over the entire internet, and the message spreads fast. He has the advantage of mouth-to-mouth propaganda on his side, he is THE GUY, the bad gamer, the worst prolific Twitch gamer on planet Earth, hundreds or even thousands of videos with his face are created which spread the word. And he still can't maintain any audience, why is that?
Because he's a turd in fancy christmas papers: Enjoyable on first sight, disgusting as soon as you unwrap. In my opinion, when it all comes down to, the most basic reason he can't hold his viewers is: He's literally a piece of shit. Nobody wants to watch that, nobody wants to support that, it's just gross. But you can laugh at him easily at a distance. I think that wraps it up, I have no desire to go into each detail why he sucks as an entertainer and human being, we all know already.

DSP: "Funny story. I don't know what's going on with TMZ, covering stuff with Fortnite. But, apparantly, a fan, a viewer, just *THROAT CLEAR* sent me something on Twitter that I got a laugh out of of. *REALLY LONG AND GROSS THROAT CLEAR* Excuse me. I basically was, uh, SOMEONE tweeted me, they said, 'Phil! You're on TMZ, here's a picture!' And it was a picture of ME, playing Fortnite! Now, keep in mind, I haven't played Fortnite, in like, A YEAR! LIKE A YEAR! Okay? It's been that long! I think the last time I played Fortnite was, uhm, before I played PUBG. I think. Or around that time. Because, that's when I actually got my ONE win in Fortnite. About a year ago. Uhm, *THROAT CLEAR* and I know this for a fact, because he shows me a picture. A screencap of TMZ that he's watching, and it's a story about Fortnite, and it's gameplay of Fortnite WITH ME! My facecam! Playing! And it's the old headphones that I used to use. The white ones, the white Astros. So, this is before November of last year."
Oh mah gahd, Dave. All he said in this elusive way too long quote was "Someone tweeted that my old Fortnite playthrough was on TMZ". What's with him taking so much pride in supposedly remembering the date of any event in history? Does he just want to feel smart? Dragging sentences isn't smart, it's a sign of an idiot who can't focus his thoughts. Nothing wrong with being an idiot, but with endless speeches how he's smarter than everyone without realizing any idiocy.

DSP: "The day when he gifted a RIDICULOUS amount of subscriptions, in order to aid me in my effort to KEEP MY HOUSE, was a special event."
When has Elephant_Seven ever said that? When has E7 ever wrote anything? Same case of "My Youtube audience is toxic" while having the comments deactivated? He just assumes. To be fair, I'm just nitpicking at that point because Dave annoys me. Yeah, it would be probable tho, from the prestream? But on the flipside, Dave has no visible goal set. So when is it enough, Element_Seven? When?
 
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Phil can't drive on the highway. During the move he rented a U-haul and had Leanna's mom drive it.

is this really true that he says he cant drive on the highway? i find it almost hard to believe because its too bitch made even for dave. then again this is the same guy who couldnt handle lighting the pilot light on a hot water heater, is afraid to go in an attic, cant paint, cant fix anything around or in a house, cant handle doing any outside landscaping and has to sit on a smelly stool to take a shower (that he brought across the country)
 
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When has Elephant_Seven ever said that? When has E7 ever wrote anything? Same case of "My Youtube audience is toxic" while having the comments deactivated? He just assumes.
DSP LOVES putting words in people's mouths. This is pretty much the way he describes any interaction with people. That way he can bend the narrative in any way he wants and make up stupid shit.
 
just finished watching yesterdays first pre-stream and i got the impression emerald seven told dave he is done.

"i certainly dont expect anything more... when is emelald seven coming back.... umm i dont know when he or she is coming back... we'll see, if it happens again amazing, if not at least it signifigantly helped me out"

also he realizes it could slow down other pigs because he makes sure to thank them and mention them after talking about it.

he is admitting he has raised half what he needs too.

disgusts me too when he talks about people wanting to come and contribute because its the holidays. no , dont save your money for your family during the holidays, give it to ME!
 
is this really true that he says he cant drive on the highway? i find it almost hard to believe because its too bitch made even for dave. then again this is the same guy who couldnt handle lighting the pilot light on a hot water heater, is afraid to go in an attic, cant paint, cant fix anything around or in a house, cant handle doing any outside landscaping and has to sit on a smelly stool to take a shower (that he brought across the country)

Yeah, it's true. He's said it a bunch of times. It's his back *eyeroll*. Only other person I know who won't drive on the highway is my 78-year old aunt. She won't pump her own gas either.
 
"Guys for Christmas I bought Kat that california vacation she's always wanted. Also, uh... okay real talk, but I need help or I'll lose the house dood I gotta pay my taxes."
What he needs to do is take some of that sweet emerald money and invest in a bra for those pendulous tits of his.

I can’t imagine heaving those things around all day helps with his debilitating back injury.

is this really true that he says he cant drive on the highway? i find it almost hard to believe because its too bitch made even for dave. then again this is the same guy who couldnt handle lighting the pilot light on a hot water heater, is afraid to go in an attic, cant paint, cant fix anything around or in a house, cant handle doing any outside landscaping and has to sit on a smelly stool to take a shower (that he brought across the country)
Oh Christ, does he really have a shower stool?
 
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Oh Christ, does he really have a shower stool?
Highly recommend watching the 'Going back in time' series of Tevin, especially the 'Cross country with Panda' episode. You can see where a lot of his financial problems came from and some other interesting stuff (whole vlog whining about having to buy a lot of things, after which proceeds to buy useless shit. he bought gel mats for the floor in stead of buying fucking slippers.) Stool is there as well
 
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1) Dave claimed he didnt pay anything towards quarterly taxes. He originally announced his intention to not pay the quarterly early in the year and then confirmed he didnt pay them at all recently. (ofc he is a liar but this is what he said)

This is also backed by the fact that Phil has said in years past he would make his quarterly tax payment on his credit card every quarter (because he’s exceptional). He said he would make the payment and then pay down his CC before the next payment. Last year, he used his credit to pay the B&O back taxes and his tax “attorney”, $10,000 total.
 
the only thing worse than having to wait months for this arc to play out like the tut arc would be if we just never find out. if this guy just gifts mroe, then disappears and dark never mentions him again. i dont think i will be able to take that lol

I 100% expect the Emerald_Seven arc to end exactly like that. He just gifts more & then disappears. With Dave ultimately surviving like he always does.
 
is this really true that he says he cant drive on the highway? i find it almost hard to believe because its too bitch made even for dave. then again this is the same guy who couldnt handle lighting the pilot light on a hot water heater, is afraid to go in an attic, cant paint, cant fix anything around or in a house, cant handle doing any outside landscaping and has to sit on a smelly stool to take a shower (that he brought across the country)
I think it was his back issue that prevented him from driving, especially on highways(which is total bullshit). He's just a fucking bitch and doesn't want to drive people around. Since the only person he would have to drive around would be Kat, I'm sure he's driving around no problem. Especially with that magical Seattle air.
 
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This is also backed by the fact that Phil has said in years past he would make his quarterly tax payment on his credit card every quarter (because he’s exceptional). He said he would make the payment and then pay down his CC before the next payment. Last year, he used his credit to pay the B&O back taxes and his tax “attorney”, $10,000 total.

just want to point out you have to pay a pretty big processing fee to make tax payments via a credit card.

and thank you for putting "attorney" in quotes..... dave keeps calling his CPA a fucking tax attorney which is a completely different thing and it drives me more nuts than it should.
 
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I keep reading people on here say DSP was suspended for "running a fundraiser" last year. This is not true.

DSP was suspended for referring to bits/cheers/subs as having a monetary amount associated with them.

Since he seems to be mentioning how this latest bunch of subs "will help him with his tax situation" he's breaking da rules once again.

So saying something like this would not be against the rules:
"I was able to go on holidays this year thanks to the generous support all of my fans have shown on Twitch"

Saying something like this would be against the rules:
"With all these recent subs I'm able to pay half of my taxes"
"if I receive 200 more bits I'll be able to buy a new game"

Using Twitch and bits/cheers/subs you are not allowed to imply that there is any monetary value associated with them. You can't say "each sub gets me $2.50" or "thanks for the 25 cent cheer". They are designed to be worthless and any mention of direct monetary value or implying that you were able to buy something using bits/subs directly is against the rules.

I'm not saying Twitch will actually do anything, but I keep seeing people sperging about the "fundraiser" shit and somehow forgetting what he actually got suspended for (we know this because he told us directly and its also written directly in the rules). These rules DO NOT apply to tips, only to Twitch's internal money (bits + subs).
 
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