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Spider-Man into the Spiderverse
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Not counting marketing, it broke even in three days. It's doing the best of any animated film released this time of year. They clearly have a movie doing well.
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Movie studios don't keep every cent. Unless you're Disney and bully them, they usually only get to keep half of the reported box office gross after the theater and local distributors get their cut. A $90 million movie that's done $140 million worldwide hasn't broken even. That is why the 2016 Ghostbusters movie was still a flop even though it grossed more than its production budget.
Wreck It Ralph 2 and The Grinch have both have done hundreds of millions more than Spiderman have, so it's really not doing anything special at the box office. There was some shill garbage about it having the highest opening weekend for a December animated release but that's not worth much. Most big animated winter movies release in November so they can take advantage of both Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays. Plus, that excluded Avatar, which is a movie that is like 90% animation. If you look at Spiderverse's Christmas bump, it had the smallest one of the top 5 movies and the weakest average theater gross. This shit isn't going to be Jumanji.
Add in advertising costs and Spiderverse is looking like a movie Sony is going to barely make out ahead on. They'd have to be really stupid to look at that and shit out dozens of spinoffs. Sony doesn't even get merchandise revenue from these movies. At the end of the day, The Emoji Movie is probably going to wind up being more profitable.
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I thought Ghostbusters 2016 failed due to its enormous marketing budget.
Anyway, yeah, with all that in mind it does seem that Into the Spiderverse is going to under-perform. I'm guessing it was released later in the season to not have to compete with The Grinch and WiR2, but they're still going strong and Spiderverse missed out on the lucritive Thanksgiving market. I'm not sure when the film should have been released, given that it's not big enough for a summer release. Disney taking all the toy sales will definitely hurt the film as well, considering how toyetic the film is.
Projections reckon that Spiderverse is going to make less than 100 million in the states and less than 100 million in China (the two biggest markets for Hollywood films). Looking at global release dates, the film would have to have unheard levels of success in Japan and Brazil to be seen as a decent success. Either way, we'll have to wait until March to know and realistically it's not going to happen.
If Sony is smart (doubt) they'd either cancel the sequel or spin-off to the movie. I'm not sure what would seem like the safer bet. Either way, another movie is going to be made considering they were filing trademarks on the specific style of animation they used in the film. Odds are the next film will be shorter, closer to the standard 90 minutes to try save on cost in case of a failure.
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Might explain why Sony was so quick to try and patent the software they created to make this film with. Even if the film itself isn’t profitable, they probably recognized that there’d at least be a market of studios wanting to replicate the animation style.
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I wanted to watch the movie but idon't want to give any money to assholes like Disney, Sony or Marvel, any way i can avoid doing that?
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I would be very shocked if there's no cams of it online. If you're some goof who can't into torrents then lurk cytube. Most cams that pop up there work as ddls.
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I saw it. I liked it. I can understand making it a cartoon after seeing it. If the climax had been done in live action it would’ve been too much. Like Michael Bay on a cocaine and LSD bender. The cartoonishness of it diffused it enough you could accept it.
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Saw it today. I really dug it. They made Miles Morales really likable and compelling in a strange sort of way. Every shot in the film looks great. You really could frame every second of it as a comic panel. I don't know how a film with three directors managed to turn out as good as it did.
I'll also say that the soundtrack is pretty sweet too, both the score and the song choices. I was humming some of the beats on the way back home so that's pretty impressive. Can't wait to see this be passed over during the awards for the mediocre Incredibles 2 though.
I'll also say that the soundtrack is pretty sweet too, both the score and the song choices. I was humming some of the beats on the way back home so that's pretty impressive. Can't wait to see this be passed over during the awards for the mediocre Incredibles 2 though.
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Saw the movie with a friend. It was surprisingly good. Like, when I first heard they were doing it with Miles I was scared that it would turn into another "let's shoehorn a character to be spiderman because we can" type of scenario, but everything was handled incredibly well. The comedy, the action, it really flows well with the animation style. It does feel like they took a comic and made it into an animated film.
I guess the writing staff woke up and realized that they'd actually have to make Miles likable in order to have him in a feature-length film, because here it really feels like he earned his status as a spiderman. I really like how he had flaws and wasn't just another bland character. The other characters absolutely nail it as well. Spiderman-noir is my favorite so far.
The music is also pretty good. Reminds me a lot of Black Panther soundtrack with all the techno and rap music, but it never came off as annoying. Worked surprisingly well. Overall a very fun movie to watch.
I guess the writing staff woke up and realized that they'd actually have to make Miles likable in order to have him in a feature-length film, because here it really feels like he earned his status as a spiderman. I really like how he had flaws and wasn't just another bland character. The other characters absolutely nail it as well. Spiderman-noir is my favorite so far.
The music is also pretty good. Reminds me a lot of Black Panther soundtrack with all the techno and rap music, but it never came off as annoying. Worked surprisingly well. Overall a very fun movie to watch.
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I think Miles really works as a character, at least in this film, because you see a lot of the impact that others have on him. Characters that can be moved by things are always a good choice because it makes their journey and development feel more impactful. I don't want to say Miles is sensitive but the film clearly shows the emotion behind his actions. And that's a good thing. It helps him feel more relatable and organic. Dunno if he was like that in the original comics but it really worked here.
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I've already seen SJWs bitching that it didn't have enough queer lesbian Spidermen in it. So either they pander hard to get that audience to show up for a Lesbian Spiders of Color sequel or they rely on people wanting to see Miles Morales Spider-man after the market is saturated with the seventh Spidey feature in 4 years or the FOURTH Spider-Man (plus the alternates) in 16 years. Maybe Sony could just sell the thing back to Marvel for so many millions and not let the franchise be diluted once again by shit sequels?
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Just saw it, super enjoyed it. Actually a lot more emotional than I expected. All the characters were really fun, soundtrack fit well, and I loved the after credits bit.
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It really is sad how Sony screwed he pooch when it comes to Spidey movies. The Amazing Spider-Man 1 & 2 were so bad, cringey, and creatively bankrupt (and a cynical, pathetic attempt to keep the movie rights before they expired), and Venom was Avi Arad continuing to showcase his hard on for that villain. Sony did a lot to sabotage Spider-Man 3 as well: any issues I have with that movie are because of the transparent studio interference.
I'm glad that Spidey's live action movies are under Marvel's creative control right now, but it's a real shame that all of the other shit happened. Sony has done a lot to taint the brand.
Spider-Verse deserves to make "Incredibles 2" or "MCU" numbers at the box office. It's one of the best animated movies I've seen, one of the best superhero movies out there, and easily the best Spider-Man movie since Spider-Man 2 (if not, the best Spider-Man movie ever). Spider-Verse, for me, absolutely kicked Spider-Man: Homecoming's ass ... Sony proved that they are shockingly capable of making a better Spider-Man movie than Marvel is right now. They have a wonderful thing going on with this possible Spidey "Animated Universe."
I'd say that Spider-Verse is making some good numbers, but not nearly as much as it deserves. I think that it had a lot of competition coming out during the holiday season, tbh (including another comic book movie). I think most parents decided to take their kids to see Wreck-It-Ralph 2 or The Grinch for Christmas instead (bad choices, sadly ... Both those movies are fucking garbage), and a lot of the normie audiences chose to see Aquaman instead as well ('cause "live action is for adults, and animation is for kids").
I'm glad that Spidey's live action movies are under Marvel's creative control right now, but it's a real shame that all of the other shit happened. Sony has done a lot to taint the brand.
Spider-Verse deserves to make "Incredibles 2" or "MCU" numbers at the box office. It's one of the best animated movies I've seen, one of the best superhero movies out there, and easily the best Spider-Man movie since Spider-Man 2 (if not, the best Spider-Man movie ever). Spider-Verse, for me, absolutely kicked Spider-Man: Homecoming's ass ... Sony proved that they are shockingly capable of making a better Spider-Man movie than Marvel is right now. They have a wonderful thing going on with this possible Spidey "Animated Universe."
I'd say that Spider-Verse is making some good numbers, but not nearly as much as it deserves. I think that it had a lot of competition coming out during the holiday season, tbh (including another comic book movie). I think most parents decided to take their kids to see Wreck-It-Ralph 2 or The Grinch for Christmas instead (bad choices, sadly ... Both those movies are fucking garbage), and a lot of the normie audiences chose to see Aquaman instead as well ('cause "live action is for adults, and animation is for kids").
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I feel sad for anyone who has some knowledge about these films choosing to see Ralph 2 over this, tbh. But you know, "omg princesses!" mentality hits autists and womenchildren hard like a bag of bricks.
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I will always have a soft spot for Disney Princesses.
But ... Shit, Wreck-It-Ralph 2 was not a good movie. And the Princess scene was far too brief for me to even form an opinion on it, really. I felt nothing when I saw it.
Compare that garbage to Into The Spider-Verse, which I believe is a masterclass in animated storytelling. I'm not one to be hyperbolic when I see movies, but I truly believe that this movie was something really special.
But ... Shit, Wreck-It-Ralph 2 was not a good movie. And the Princess scene was far too brief for me to even form an opinion on it, really. I felt nothing when I saw it.
Compare that garbage to Into The Spider-Verse, which I believe is a masterclass in animated storytelling. I'm not one to be hyperbolic when I see movies, but I truly believe that this movie was something really special.
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Spider-Verse is fucking tits. Watched it cause I had nothing else to do with no expectations and it blew me away. That Olivia twist man, 10/10.
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Was it just me or were objects in the foreground of scenes blurry? I saw it at a kinda shit theatre and thought the projector was out of focus.
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The movie really was something special. I'm still feeling warm about it days later. I'll be pissed when mediocre Disney shit gets more attention because there really was more heart and love in this stupid capeshit movie than all of Disney's films combined this year.