Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Boss Bass]

The most inventive use of her powers lately was in Exiles where she used her giant thumbs to determine if someone was lying by checking their pulse...

It was sort of humorous that, after 75 years of Mr. Fantastic, Incredibles 2 had the first truly awesome “stretchy powers” scene.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

Shit, I came up with a Kamala Khan background/origin while drunk on a stream one night.

Open that shit up with the Skrulls in a standoff with ROM of all motherfuckers. Cue the 2 page fight, pregnant Muslim woman who just arrived in America gets a whiff of it. ROM scans her, declares her all right, flies the fuck off.

Kamala is born with stretchy powers.

There's plenty of strife and the like to be had in her background and everything else about modern life. Hell, she'd be trying to avoid being kidnapped by some real bad people like ISIS and the like who would love to get their hands on a teenage mutant they can beat into submission and use as a weapon.

If my drunk and stupid ass can come up with shit, why are these woke faggots so worthless at it?

Sadly, AFAIK Marvel STILL doesn't have the rights to ROM (although with IDW tanking, maybe they'll be smart enough to snatch him back up. Maybe.)

Irritates the hell out of me because ROM was, even in the 80's, no pushover. He and three other Spaceknights went nose to nose with the Sh'iar Imperial Guard (with Gladiator on point) and started beating the hell out of them, with ROM fighting Gladiator to a standstill.

Yeah, I miss ROM, dammit. Especially with all the goddamn dancing around Marvel has had to do to avoid using the name.

 

[AnOminous]

A character Moore has said that if you idolise or want to be like, he wouldn't want to know you.

Rorschach is a deeply disturbed character and funny she'd quote a literal psychopath whose only on the side of the "hero's" because it suits his goals and his methods.

Moore may not like it, but deeply disturbed and even outright psychotic as he is, Rorschach is really the only character in Watchmen who can even remotely be considered heroic. Everyone else is either a flat out mass murderer (Ozymandias), literally inhuman (Manhattan), a rapist (the Comedian), or various shades of hypocritical and cowardly (the otherwise sympathetic Nite Owl and Silk Specter).

Rorschach has a moral code, as black and white and, frankly, fundamentalist as it is, and is willing to die for the truth, even if dying for it achieves nothing. You shouldn't want to be like him, perhaps, but that is actually admirable. The only other characters you could remotely want to be like are, again, Nite Owl and Silk Specter, who are at least human with human motivations.

 

[damian]

It's really bizarre/impressive how you can reboot a character 7 times and yet not change a single thing, even when the creative teams changes:

YaBoi covers people sperging about how the 90s killed comics:

More good Valiant books ignored, most likely hidden/buried under Faith's fat rolls:

Sina Grace keeps getting cucked by the free market:

Disney was forced to admit Marvel Comics and Star Wars are not selling:

Some NPC has "Hot Take" about superhero movies, reads as "I hate this thing that's popular, aren't I unique?":

Common sense from a black guy to the Comics Industry:

 

[RockVolnutt]

It was sort of humorous that, after 75 years of Mr. Fantastic, Incredibles 2 had the first truly awesome “stretchy powers” scene.

75 years? I don't think 1961 is that long ago yet.

 

[Least Concern]

Some NPC has "Hot Take" about superhero movies, reads as "I hate this thing that's popular, aren't I unique?":

I saw this one the other day. The dude derides fans of superhero movies as childish. Well, you know what’s even more childish? Not being able to comprehend that someone else might like something that you don’t.

 

[Steamboat_Bill]

YaBoi covers people sperging about how the 90s killed comics:

It may have been healthier and happier, but the good times didn't last long, Zack. The whole thing crashed so badly the comic industry still hasn't really recovered.

(On another note, why exactly are people trying to rehabilitate the reputation of the 90s in comics? There was a lot of godawful shit in that era, folks.)

 

[damian]

It may have been healthier and happier, but the good times didn't last long, Zack. The whole thing crashed so badly the comic industry still hasn't really recovered.

(On another note, why exactly are people trying to rehabilitate the reputation of the 90s in comics? There was a lot of godawful shit in that era, folks.)

He goes over the shipping numbers of the year after the crash, compared it to the most current numbers (Nov.2018 ) and it was still leagues over what is currently shipping.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

(On another note, why exactly are people trying to rehabilitate the reputation of the 90s in comics? There was a lot of godawful shit in that era, folks.)

It depends on what aspects of that era you believe were bad. All the dumb gimmicks of that era are being replicated today, such as variant covers, massive crossover events, stunt deaths, etc. The era's edginess was kinda dumb, but then so is this modern era's take on edginess (faux punks preaching conformity with SJW political ideology). Maybe the art was worse, if only because everybody was aping Jim Lee's style, badly. But I'm not a fan of how bland and lifeless modern Marvel art is, either.

 

[gobbogobb]

It depends on what aspects of that era you believe were bad. All the dumb gimmicks of that era are being replicated today, such as variant covers, massive crossover events, stunt deaths, etc. The era's edginess was kinda dumb, but then so is this modern era's take on edginess (faux punks preaching conformity with SJW political ideology). Maybe the art was worse, if only because everybody was aping Jim Lee's style, badly. But I'm not a fan of how bland and lifeless modern Marvel art is, either.

That's his point I think. The WRONG parts of the 90s industry are being replicated, and the next crash may be the one they can't receive very from.

I mean the edge was strong in a lot of books but marvel made some good storylines and good titles back then. What's good now in marvelland other than maybe spiderman? Legit question, cause I don't know.

 

[Detrogen]

What's good now in marvelland other than maybe spiderman? Legit question, cause I don't know.

Honestly, the best books are all from writers who are raging SJW sociopaths or have cucked out at some point.

Basically Hulk, Venom, and Spider-Man are the only things Marvel is cranking out consistently. The first issue of the new Conan was good, but the same writer also handles the currently awful Thor book so that’s probably temporary.

 

[robobobo]

Sadly, AFAIK Marvel STILL doesn't have the rights to ROM (although with IDW tanking, maybe they'll be smart enough to snatch him back up. Maybe.)

Irritates the hell out of me because ROM was, even in the 80's, no pushover. He and three other Spaceknights went nose to nose with the Sh'iar Imperial Guard (with Gladiator on point) and started beating the hell out of them, with ROM fighting Gladiator to a standstill.

Yeah, I miss ROM, dammit. Especially with all the goddamn dancing around Marvel has had to do to avoid using the name.

I would like to subscribe to your newsletter, sir, if only to be reminded that other people exist who remember ROM.

 

[Buck Mullet]

I would like to subscribe to your newsletter, sir, if only to be reminded that other people exist who remember ROM.

It's a shame Marvel can't reprint the whole 75 issue series and guest appearances in at least a few Essential ROM phone books. ROM existed in his own corner of the MCU, but interacted with mainstream characters far more often than other licensed or marginalized properties.

Like yeah, Spiderman met the Transformers once, but ROM canon crossed over into the X-Men, Avengers, Fantastic Four, Hulk... and he had a great backstory. Dude sacrificed his flesh and blood for a cyborg body to save his world from the dreaded Dire Wraiths.

 

[Judge Dredd]

The era's edginess was kinda dumb, but then so is this modern era's take on edginess (faux punks preaching conformity with SJW political ideology).

I don't think SJW stuff is edgy though. It has all the appeal of those shitty "Christian" versions of popular media that did the rounds in the 90s and will age about as well.

I mean the edge was strong in a lot of books but marvel made some good storylines and good titles back then.

My understanding was that there were good, mature stories being written but hack writers and editors just saw "grim and gritty" as a trend and filled books with sex and violence in the worst way possible.

 

[damian]

Someone made a sock account using Mags’ dead name. Which he found even though it hasn’t tweeted @ anyone nor used any #, so I’m guessing Mags found it through the good ol method of searching your name (or dead name in this case) on twitter search.

Only found out thanks to @Hellfire’s post in Mags thread:

http://archive.li/81iZp http://archive.li/kuz62
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But even with this Mags isn’t special nor unique. I found multiple accounts with the same dumb gimmick. Most of which were made in December unlike with Mags’. These accounts include:

Tamra Bonvillain: https://archive.fo/atsSD

Mark Waid: https://archive.fo/loONK

For some reason Donny Cates: https://archive.fo/0EiUp

Darrylayo who left twitter and had his actual handle taken over
https://twitter.com/darrylayo
3 months ago: https://archive.fo/4zKO1
Now: https://archive.fo/4zKO1

And just as easy as looking through the followers list, I suspect I’ve found our guy: https://twitter.com/anytom8

Autism that rivals LateNightComics is hard to find, so I also suspect this might be one of his sock accounts. Thinking back to before his meltdown it also looks like the type of shit he posted normally when he was on CG’s side. (Still kicking myself I didn’t archive much of it.)

 

[RodgerDodger]

Moore may not like it, but deeply disturbed and even outright psychotic as he is, Rorschach is really the only character in Watchmen who can even remotely be considered heroic. Everyone else is either a flat out mass murderer (Ozymandias), literally inhuman (Manhattan), a rapist (the Comedian), or various shades of hypocritical and cowardly (the otherwise sympathetic Nite Owl and Silk Specter).

Rorschach has a moral code, as black and white and, frankly, fundamentalist as it is, and is willing to die for the truth, even if dying for it achieves nothing. You shouldn't want to be like him, perhaps, but that is actually admirable. The only other characters you could remotely want to be like are, again, Nite Owl and Silk Specter, who are at least human with human motivations.

Rorshack was a “Rand’ian Objectivist”. He was based on, and originally supposed to be STeve Ditko’s personal “self insert” or “avatar” character, The Question. That strict moral code, black and white view is part of why Ditko clashed with Marvel editors and eventually left.

 

[AnOminous]

Rorshack was a “Rand’ian Objectivist”. He was based on, and originally supposed to be STeve Ditko’s personal “self insert” or “avatar” character, The Question. That strict moral code, black and white view is part of why Ditko clashed with Marvel editors and eventually left.

He was more than just a one note parody of Ditko, though. All the Watchmen were originally supposed to be borrowed from these obscure Charlton Comics characters, but that turned out not to be practical for whatever reason and they created originals loosely based on some of them instead. Rorschach became a general pastiche of what an actual person who dressed up in a costume and went around being a superhero would be, and the answer is pretty much a psycho.

 

[Water-T]

He was more than just a one note parody of Ditko, though. All the Watchmen were originally supposed to be borrowed from these obscure Charlton Comics characters, but that turned out not to be practical for whatever reason and they created originals loosely based on some of them instead. Rorschach became a general pastiche of what an actual person who dressed up in a costume and went around being a superhero would be, and the answer is pretty much a psycho.

DC had just purchased several characters from Charlton in 1983 and melded them into the DCU during Crisis on Infinite Earths (as inhabitants of Earth-Four). Moore wanted to use them for Watchmen, but DC knew he was going to kill off or fuck over them, which would mean they would not be usable for future publications and story lines. So Alan just subbed in Comedian for Peacemaker, Rorschach for The Question, Nite Owl for Blue Beetle, Silk Spectre for Nightshade, Dr. Manhattan for Captain Atom, and Peter Cannon, Thunderbolt for Ozymandias.

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

DC had just purchased several characters from Charlton in 1983 and melded them into the DCU during Crisis on Infinite Earths (as inhabitants of Earth-Four). Moore wanted to use them for Watchmen, but DC knew he was going to kill off or fuck over them, which would mean they would not be usable for future publications and story lines. So Alan just subbed in Comedian for Peacemaker, Rorschach for The Question, Nite Owl for Blue Beetle, Silk Spectre for Nightshade, Dr. Manhattan for Captain Atom, and Peter Cannon, Thunderbolt for Ozymandias.

And honestly, considering what Moore did, I think DC made the right move. Watchmen works better with expies to illustrate, homage, or satirize the characters they're based on anyways.

 

[Jack Awful]

Truer words have never been spoken