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No ones subconscious works on such an abstract and logical basis. Evolution favors quick solutions. That means stereotyping and ad hoc explanations.

Sure. But why should my held stereotypes be confirmed every time? or even most of the time. It would be arrogance on my part to expect every trans person to be such a way or every gay to be another. Everyone is different.
 
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Part of our ability to comprehend the world is rooted in the ability to make comparisons. We’re hardwired to think of things in a binary way. Everything has to have an opposite.

We’re also hardwired to experience fear in the face of things we don’t understand, but the intensity of that reaction varies from person to person.

I don’t know if this is helpful at all but that’s how I was reading it.
 
We’re also hardwired to experience fear in the face of things we don’t understand, but the intensity of that reaction varies from person to person.

Yes I understand that on a conceptual level but I dont understand why anyone would fear a trans person. They are the least threatening people physically.
 
Yes I understand that on a conceptual level but I dont understand why anyone would fear a trans person. They are the least threatening people physically.

I think the transphobic perspective sees trans people as not quite male or female, which conflicts with the binary mode of thinking. Hence the fear.
 
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Never met a LGBT person who where not a huge attentionwhore, every faggot, Dyke or tranny i have ever met has been draining to be around... i imagine being in a LGBT community 24/7 must be like being in hell

Why is it so hard for gays/trannys to be just chill?

You’ve probably met some that aren’t like that. You just didn’t know they were lgbt because they didn’t point it out.
 
Last year, researchers reported the results of an experimental surgical technique for pelvic floor transplantation (which included the genitals) in rats, sheep, and eight human cadavers:
https://journals.lww.com/transplant...Surgical_Technique_for_Pelvic_Floor.1340.aspx

They concluded that the research may one day have an application for gender reassignment surgery.

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Pure scifi until we have a comprehensive mastery of the adaptive immune system and/or can grow whole organ systems in cocultured vats. This would kill any living person you did it to.
 
I have begun to suspect that doods who aggressively remind you at every opportunity that MtF Trans people "ArE REEEEElLy MeN" are just trying to obscure the fact they have terabytes of Baily Jay porn on their pc. I see guys doing it all the time and after a while I just gotta wonder who their trying to prove something to.

Honestly I think a lot of people just reject transsexualism as a concept in its entirety or think its bullshit. What has really happened is that its out in the open now, and more and more trans people are in your face about it (and not just on Tumblr), so the push back from non-trans people has gotten more and more vehement in response. While not all trans-people are loud jerks about being such, the vocal minority are vocal enough to engender reaction.
 
Pure scifi until we have a comprehensive mastery of the adaptive immune system and/or can grow whole organ systems in cocultured vats. This would kill any living person you did it to.

I don't think it's pure science fiction. Our understanding of immunosuppresive mechanisms is advancing quickly, and there are transplants that we are able to perform today that were impossible 20 years ago.

The first penis transplant was performed just 4 years ago, and there have been several more since then. The surgeon who performed the most extensive one ever last year has even suggested that the patient (a wounded soldier) may be able to get off immunosuppresant agents entirely in the next 10 years, thanks to advances in medicine.

There is also the prospect of anorectal transplants, which have been the focus of some study in the last few years due to their potential to reverse permanent colostomies and restore normal function to the lower digestive tract. These are much more tricky than genital transplants, because of the heightened risk of immune system rejection, yet, they have been successfully achieved in rats, pigs, and canines in the last 5 years.

Personally, I think this stuff will be technically achievable sooner than many of us might think. I'm predicting that the biggest obstacles to full reproductive transplantation will be ethical, rather than technical.
 
Honestly I think a lot of people just reject transsexualism as a concept in its entirety or think its bullshit. What has really happened is that its out in the open now, and more and more trans people are in your face about it (and not just on Tumblr), so the push back from non-trans people has gotten more and more vehement in response. While not all trans-people are loud jerks about being such, the vocal minority are vocal enough to engender reaction.
I'd say it also has to do with the people most loudly claiming to be trans look like homeless aids victims who dress from a circus clown goodwill. People who just wanna live their lives end up blending in, while the most toxic elements rise to the surface. My suspicion is that the obsession with refusing to call normal trans folks he/she, especially when it is an unprompted response, may be a sign of someone in denial about their desire to plunder tranny butthole. For reference, check out the recently created Theryn Meyer thread , and see how many responses are either garbage tier "He's mentally ill hurr hurr" or " I would SMASH".
 
I don't think it's pure science fiction. Our understanding of immunosuppresive mechanisms is advancing quickly, and there are transplants that we are able to perform today that were impossible 20 years ago.

The first penis transplant was performed just 4 years ago, and there have been several more since then. The surgeon who performed the most extensive one ever last year has even suggested that the patient (a wounded soldier) may be able to get off immunosuppresant agents entirely in the next 10 years, thanks to advances in medicine.

There is also the prospect of anorectal transplants, which have been the focus of some study in the last few years due to their potential to reverse permanent colostomies and restore normal function to the lower digestive tract. These are much more tricky than genital transplants, because of the heightened risk of immune system rejection, yet, they have been successfully achieved in rats, pigs, and canines in the last 5 years.

Personally, I think this stuff will be technically achievable sooner than many of us might think. I'm predicting that the biggest obstacles to full reproductive transplantation will be ethical, rather than technical.
So far, all of our ventures in genital transplants have involved simply replacing the parts they already would've had. Male subjects getting penises, female subjects getting vaginas. The path to putting that in practice with humans seems relatively straightforward. Trying to get a male body to accept a vagina or a female body to accept a penis tosses a whole monkey wrench in there that I haven't seen any studies address just yet. The motivation to figure it out is definitely there (humans are weird little fuckers, after all), but I'm not expecting to see the technology come to fruition any time soon.
 
I don't think it's pure science fiction. Our understanding of immunosuppresive mechanisms is advancing quickly, and there are transplants that we are able to perform today that were impossible 20 years ago.

The first penis transplant was performed just 4 years ago, and there have been several more since then. The surgeon who performed the most extensive one ever last year has even suggested that the patient (a wounded soldier) may be able to get off immunosuppresant agents entirely in the next 10 years, thanks to advances in medicine.

There is also the prospect of anorectal transplants, which have been the focus of some study in the last few years due to their potential to reverse permanent colostomies and restore normal function to the lower digestive tract. These are much more tricky than genital transplants, because of the heightened risk of immune system rejection, yet, they have been successfully achieved in rats, pigs, and canines in the last 5 years.

Personally, I think this stuff will be technically achievable sooner than many of us might think. I'm predicting that the biggest obstacles to full reproductive transplantation will be ethical, rather than technical.
This is all set dressing without resolving the fundamental problem. People are greedy and want what they can't have. If we master genital transplants, then chromosomes, "girlhood," and every other unattainable quality of biological sex will be coveted instead.
Advancement in psychology, therapy, and treatment of mental illness are the only true treatments to body dysphoria.
 
This is all set dressing without resolving the fundamental problem. People are greedy and want what they can't have. If we master genital transplants, then chromosomes, "girlhood," and every other unattainable quality of biological sex will be coveted instead.
Advancement in psychology, therapy, and treatment of mental illness are the only true treatments to body dysphoria.
What many people forget in cases like this is that people can want something, set realistic expectations, get it, and come out satisfied. It's all about having a healthy attitude. No material thing can singlehandedly fix a mental health problem, but that doesn't mean we should all stop having material things.
 
What many people forget in cases like this is that people can want something, set realistic expectations, get it, and come out satisfied. It's all about having a healthy attitude. No material thing can singlehandedly fix a mental health problem, but that doesn't mean we should all stop having material things.
The problem is that changing your sex is not a realistic goal. You can't change your sex. We can invent a surface layer that you can change, "gender," because it had no meaning in the first place, but dysphoria is a desire to change sex. The realistic goal is to tackle the idea it's not acceptable for a man to behave in a traditionally feminine way. And to become comfortable in your own body, because it's not going to change.
 
The problem is that changing your sex is not a realistic goal. You can't change your sex. We can invent a surface layer that you can change, "gender," because it had no meaning in the first place, but dysphoria is a desire to change sex. The realistic goal is to tackle the idea it's not acceptable for a man to behave in a traditionally feminine way. And to become comfortable in your own body, because it's not going to change.
Sure, you can't literally change your sex with current technology, and holding out hope for it is unrealistic. But there's also nothing inherently wrong with an adult considering the options available and deciding that surgery is good enough, just like there should be nothing wrong with people finding that psychiatric treatment better suits their needs. Like any other surgery - it's all well and good if you really just want to fix your nose, but if you're a 50-year-old trying to look 20, it's an exercise in futility and public embarrassment.
 
Sure, you can't literally change your sex with current technology, and holding out hope for it is unrealistic. But there's also nothing inherently wrong with an adult considering the options available and deciding that surgery is good enough, just like there should be nothing wrong with people finding that psychiatric treatment better suits their needs. Like any other surgery - it's all well and good if you really just want to fix your nose, but if you're a 50-year-old trying to look 20, it's an exercise in futility and public embarrassment.

That sounds nice in theory, but in practice way too many people approach these medical interventions with wildly inappropriate expectations, and there's even more people to cheer them on. Have you ever seen someone with anorexia decide they are thin enough and settle into a happy medium? Of course not. Same thing happens with dysphoria; you're chasing an idealized image that you can never attain. The closer you get, the less satisfied you are.
 
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