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HorrorcowSusan Schofield Cabana, Cory Cabana, & Michael Schofield / Schofield Productions / @bipolarnation - A Tragicomic Tale of Psychiatric Munchausen's by Proxy
Studies have shown a large number of them just have personality disorders - psychopaths are usually a lot more clean with what they do, a psychopath would never dream of leaving such a big trail of evidence willingly that could be used against them. A craving for attention wouldn't surpass a psychopath keeping their children i.e income and possibly freedom.
It sounds like Michael has grown a lot since he left Susan. I think when he sees Amy actually mother their newborn, he will be shocked at the normal baby behavior that he sees, that Susan claimed was "schizophrenia". Heck, he's probably seen some of that with Amy's daughter. He's seen what happens when you put limits and actually discipline your child.
Jeeze the video "Young schizophrenic at her mind's mercy.mp4 " is so depressing. Look at Bodhi there, I don't know his age but he doesn't appear autistic at all and it's around the age where there would be symptoms. Just appears like a normal little boy. Heartbreaking what Susan has done.
I really hope someones called the cops after that message. That is a threat of bodily harm to that child and you all have every right to demand the cops go investigate and to call dfys and state there is an immediate threat of bodily harm.
It sounds like Michael has grown a lot since he left Susan. I think when he sees Amy actually mother their newborn, he will be shocked at the normal baby behavior that he sees, that Susan claimed was "schizophrenia". Heck, he's probably seen some of that with Amy's daughter. He's seen what happens when you put limits and actually discipline your child.
I read earlier in this thread from a leak that he'd been seeing a therapist which is absolutely fantastic. Sometimes you have to put your own oxygen mask on before you put someone else's on, and nobody could have anticipated the incredible downward spiral the kids took during Susan's YouTube hiatus. That was something else. It's not like Michael knew just how bad things would actually get in that time and it's not like he said 'ahhh fuck it, let's turn their brains to oatmeal, Susie!'
I have no idea what happened in the after stage talks, but by the actions of everyone, Susan and Cory were worried they wouldn't get the eval on Bodhi( and more attention for Susan), not to mention DCFS breathing down their necks( and watching their $$$ from yt go bye bye, hence I think Cory is thinking of a book in the future. If he thinks he can get Susan's LA Psych pilot accepted, he's stupider than Susan.)
Having you ask questions helps me to remember, but I think I've hit the most pertinent issues. I will respond to questions as I can.
Edit: I don't think Susan will kill the kids now, she's on another jaunt now with the PNP Center, probably to prove them wrong. It will be her downfall.
Dr. Sophy was there right? Elliot Rodgers was a former client of his (he received a copy of Elliot's Manifesto AFAIR)
Interestingly, here is a deposition featuring Dr. Sophy (2015) where he is grilled specifically on Munchausen's by proxy.
I knew all the background info, saw the videos and fb posts, the audience didn't. They were shocked in all the right places.
I didn't really want to let anyone there know I knew who would be on the show. But at one point, near the end of the show when there was a break, I spoke to the woman next to me. She was murmuring about the crap she was seeing. I filled her in on some real facts about Susan. We didn't talk much, she was already shocked by what she was seeing. Everyone was. It was a very surreal moment for me. I had been watching this shit show unfold in real time in videos, but to see it in person, well it was just like watching one of Batshit's videos.
And I will again say, Michael did a great job in keeping focused on what was really important. And it showed, cuz the audience cheered him. He was partially responsible for what happened with both kids, but it was clear his only interest was the kids, not Susan or Cory or any book or money-making opportunity. Just the kids. Michael's therapy was evidenced by his behavior and focused concern of over-medication of Bodhi (and Jani tho that was less referred to)
Don't get me started on Sophy and Elliot Rogers, ugh.
Anyone else notice/find it strange that according to this, Susan is the one that tells the producers there's video evidence of Bodhi's seizures? Why would she bring that up? To try and get ahead of it, or what?
Well, we have verifable evidence it's something Cory Fucking Cobana does, thanks to @ibewwife1990. Confirms our suspicions of Cory's NASTY temper and control issues, although the molester vibes seem to be a bit of a stretch according to the new leakers. I'm a bit disappointed that the Cory "Big Man" temper wasn't on a fireworks of display during Phil according to @KeepHopeAlive.
Daaaaammmmmnnnn Susan. What, she just thought that her actions would be perfectly acceptable if the authorities didn't IMMEDIATELY check their email and tell her not to dose her kids with the explicitly forbidden meds!? God she's dumb--and thank God for that.
It's like someone emailing the police and saying "I have this explosive, I'm just gonna throw it on my neighbor's house, unless you tell me that I can't..?" Lack of condemnation is NOT equal to permission granted, you cunt. Her use of email versus a phone call was absolutely intentional. She was banking on their being a delay in communication. I hope to God that bet didn't go in her favor.
Susan was constantly complaining in her old posts about Godfather not wanting to prescribe Bodhi Clorazil because the patent ran out. She goes on to list drug prices and complain how much more the drug that Bodhi is prescribed costs her. Wasn't she getting all this for free/highly discounted anyway via her insurance? I'm confused at how she tries to hide her MBP with these Big Pharma claims given her insurance/money situation.
Susan is enamored with the medical feild, specially psychiatry, until things don't go her way. Then she adopts all the fringe narratives that suit her vendetta against medicine. Of course she wasn't paying for medications--MediCal and/or Michael's insurance were. That's not the point. She's grasping at straws, throwing accusations, and hoping something will stick.
Thanks for the updates. And for confirming what we already knew, which was that she was taking him to the ER specifically to get drugs so she could say "but but but muh doctor's orders!" What a fucking nightmare for these kids.
Hey, kiwis who know anything about law or the current state of medicine. What are the odds that Rizvi ends up being held at least partially responsible/loses his license over this?
I think a lawyer may be more able to accurately answer this, but I can give it a stab with what I know.,. ( @Bunny at Law is your name legit, or am I making false assumptions here?)
It's very, very unlikely that Rivzi will lose his license. He may get a slap on the wrist or a fine from the credentialing board, but it's shockingly uncommon for this to happen, These boards are filled with other doctors, and the sense of loyalty they have towards one another is strong. You have to REALLY fuck up to get kicked out of the exclusive club once you become a member. Think sexually assaulting multiple patients, taking millions in bribes from druglords--that sort of thing. I HIGHLY recommend the podcast "Dr. Death" to be horrified with what doctors can get away with before facing adequate punishment.
I'm the upcoming generation, and myself and my classmates are mostly bright eyed and bushy tailed to break up the "Boys Club"--so this might change in the future. We really value justice, fairness, and getting the American Drea while also "playing by the rules" and working our fucking asses off to get there. By and large, my classmates and I are also disgusted by the iron grip that Pharma and Insurance companies have over healthcare in the US, and want to change how socioeconomic status is so inexorably linked to health outcomes. We think it's morally wrong that a patient's care is determined by heads at an insurance company deciding what they will/will not cover. We're probably too idealistic, but that's youth, right!?
I think it's more likely that Rivzi will get fired from Kaiser if the higher-ups in the healthcare network find out he's been making bad medical decisions. Healthcare conglomerates like Kaiser are ruthless and if they think a specific doctor is a liability/loose cannon, they'll absolutely cut him or her loose. It's quite likely he'll quickly be hired elsewhere though, as psychiatrists specifically are in EXTREME demand nearly everywhere.
The thing about these MBP's is they thrive for attention. It's in their nature to log onto facebook daily and try to convince their peers what great parents they are as they use their kids as pawns.
They're like those serial killers whose killed their 15th victim and were able to get away with it but can't keep their damn mouth shut long enough to claim their 16th. Someone just has to know about their dirty work.
The lesbian mother (Jennifer Hart) who drove her partner and six adopted kids off a cliff was a absolute social media maven obsessed with posting the most inspiring photos and stories - all the while starving and abusing her precious babies. It’s why when it was announced the van crash wasn’t and accident but homicide their “friends” refused to believe it - until they took a closer look at all the photos and stories.
(Example and inspiring homeschooling FB post about how they decided to just get creative and broke our paints and canvases so all her “mini Pollacks” could express themselves. After their deaths it was noticed there was no paint on any of the kids brushes - she just posed the kids with props.)
I do wonder if Susan will keep posting on FB. I do think she needs an outlet. If she can’t use the kids for her latest manic idea to promote they are useless to her and that’s dangerous.
Hopefully the carrot of the trip to Texas will keep Susan in check until they go. Susan will bask in the attention and think of it as a mini-vacay where medical ppl can deal with Bodhi and fix him so she isn’t bothered by him.
My concern is when she returns from Texas and gets up to her old ways. Bodhi won’t remain drug free. As soon as Phil doesn’t have a juicy carrot and she has deal with a conscious Bodhi in past 5 pm she will run amok.
Unless Susan gets serious mental health treatment and medication the cycle will continue.
I personally don't think she should be near those kids full stop, whether they end up in residential, long term foster care, group homes or with Michael. Or even in residential/long term foster care/group homes near Michael. They should not be near that woman.
“I’m going to give him Thorazine at night unless I hear differently”.
Differently from who? Who is she going to listen to? Hopefully somebody says “don’t you dare” but unless it’s Sophy or Phil himself, she won’t listen, and she might not even then.
I hope Thorazine doesn’t work the way narcotics do and tolerance drops quickly. Not that he’s ever been totally off, what am I thinking.
It’s too bad they can’t go through that junk pile she calls a home and throw away every medication, and just give Jani her unnecessary meds weekly with a count. But that can’t happen, sadly. I have zero doubt Susan’s nutjob friends are sending stuff in the mail. Tell the mailman to shake packages and listen for pill rattling, we can add mail fraud to her crimes.
Fifty doctors! That blows my mind. In CA they have a database called CURES, which is part of the Attorney General’s office. Every doctor who prescribes a narcotic puts it in the database, and they check to see if a patient has beeen going to many places. Dr shopping for narcotics in CA is a thing of the past. Maybe they should include a section for other types of drug abusers.
Somebody asked about Rivsi getting in trouble? Not a chance.
Well, until the show airs Susan still won’t be constrained by much, unless DCFS is really watching. If they are, that message ought to be enough to show she’ll never be compliant and get the kids taken away ASAP.
Hopefully, this Dallas trip will be within the next week, before Susan and Cory change their minds.
I’ve set Dr. Phil to record on my DVR which makes me feel a bit dirty. . I hope I don’t have to wait until May to see it.
I have a feeling that Susan will be sticking that camera in her kids faces soon.
I don't think it was, at least not recently. I found it by accident when I went up a tier on the archive link to see what other material had been archived by KF.
I wonder what Jani makes of all this. She's stunted as hell but even she is at the level to recognize people are coming after/are going to come after her mom for valid reasons following fallout from the Dr. Phil episode. I wonder the extent to which she's been brainwashed given how she's still very close to Michael and rats Susan out.
Imagine hearing what a monster your own mother is. It has to hurt.
How are we all going about making sure this episode gets seen by everyone here? Is there any way someone can record it and put it in a google drive folder so we can all access it, back it up and keep it in HQ for future reference? I have a feeling it could be needed.
Oh god no. I hope Michael recognizes that will be the case. I wouldn't let my mentally handicapped teenage daughter stay with that creepy freeloading asshole. He'll probably take Jani's bedroom and leave her on the cum mattress.
I wonder what Jani makes of all this. She's stunted as hell but even she is at the level to recognize people are coming after/are going to come after her mom for valid reasons following fallout from the Dr. Phil episode. I wonder the extent to which she's been brainwashed given how she's still very close to Michael and rats Susan out.
Imagine hearing what a monster your own mother is. It has to hurt.
As per @Rosa_Rojo if Jani is telling Michael that she knows he isn't moving back to Cali, but that Susan wishes it-not Jani, she's not that tarded. That is huge in my mind and with Bodhi saying he wants a new home, that tells me both kids can advocate for their care. That makes me hopeful. I would LOVE to know what Jani said in her interview. It wasn't presented today. I am not hopeful about real, healthy or ANY change in Susan or Creepster fucktard. But I think Dr Phil and Sophy are listening. They made it pretty clear that Susan would not be able to dr shop in Cali anymore.
If the thorazine leads to bodhi getting an emergency removal I sincerely hope they get Jani too. I don't know much about how dcfs operates but I shudder to think what Susan would do to the only other child in her care if her narc rage fit on bodhi is interrupted in that way
Oh yes another thing, Susan said that Michael wasn't following docs directions on the meds, and while the unknowing audience didn't pick up on it, Michael was referring to the prn's for Jani. Michael knew it was "as needed" and when he didn't think Jani needed it, Susan tried to cop that as Michael not following drs orders. Fucking crazy ass bitch.
Edit: Sorry but my short-term memory is an issue and the questions help me remember/respond. Mods if you want to coagulate the posts, rock on.