Vic Mignogna fired from Funimation & RoosterTeeth over accusations of sexual harassment

[Nontransferable]

Why, exactly? Because they couldn't deliver on their crowdfunding campaign? Kickstarter/IGG pledges do not guarantee a return, sadly, and when that return doesn't come because what they were doing was clearly illegal in the first place, the donors really wouldn't have a claim. It'd be like suing your crack dealer because he took your payment but couldn't give you product after he got arrested.

It is potential evidence that maybe Vic Mignogna isn't such a great guy. He was actively fundraising for his Star Trek fan film company while another was being sued. He switched fundraising platforms so he could take any amount that was donated to him. He kept soliciting donations on Facebook right up until the campaign was scheduled to end even though it was going to fall well short. Shortly thereafter, it was announced that private donations to the tune of $150,000+ had been made, which would push them over their $350,000 goal. This all sounds pretty shady to me, which is why I think a lawyer like Nick Rekieta might want to look over their legal documents for any irregularities.

I know a lot of people here want to support him because of who he is being accused by, but I had a different take that some might not have heard before.

 

[Captain Manning]

I know a lot of people here want to support him because of who he is being accused by, but I had a different take that some might not have heard before.

I don't think anybody here has really hailed Vic as a saint. In fact, more than a few people have opined he's an arrogant ass. A lot of Vic's orbiters are also cringey AF. The salient issue, at the moment, is whether he's a victim of something more insidious that people should watch out for.

Indeed, I think the lasting takeaway from this is the Farms should follow anime VAs more closely. There's a lot of tard cum that isn't being milked. Jaime Marchi alone is well on her way to having her own thread. You've got her threatening violence, telling girls they have "dicks in their ears," being accused of sexual assault herself, and purposely mistranslated anime to suit her own agenda. I'm halfway tempted to start something on Proving Grounds.

 

[Zaragoza]

Rekieta Law just posted a new video.

We're gonna have to bring everyone on this...

Spoiler

 

[Puddleduck]

Without wanting to scroll through nearly 40 pages, did he actually do anything objectively objectionable - underage or unconsensual?

 

[Marco Fucko]

Without wanting to scroll through nearly 40 pages, did he actually do anything objectively objectionable - underage or unconsensual?

Claims of him being both a diva and a bit too affectionate in general but no rape claims. Bulma's VA's story doesn't match up.

Flip a coin and call it, there's no evidence either way.

 

[Captain Manning]

Without wanting to scroll through nearly 40 pages, did he actually do anything objectively objectionable - underage or unconsensual?

He's hugged and/or kissed fans at anime conventions. Some of them underage. That much we know for sure. However, that isn't illegal or wrong, per se.

The specific set of accusations that has landed him in hot water is that some of it was done without consent. That's where the factual dispute comes in.

There is ONE claim that we now know is 100% bullshit. ANN published a photo of a girl from the UK (I think) being hugged and kissed by Vic, and the girl came out and told ANN that she gave him consent, that her mother was present, and then asked them to take the picture down. They complied, but couldn't be arsed to do a retraction.

That looks like an airtight libel claim against ANN in that one instance, and is (understandably) casting some of the other stuff in doubt.

Flip a coin and call it, there's no evidence either way.

This.

 

[Puddleduck]

He's hugged and/or kissed fans at anime conventions. Some of them underage. That much we know for sure. However, that isn't illegal or wrong, per se.

The specific set of accusations that has landed him in hot water is that some of it was done without consent. That's where the factual dispute comes in.

There is ONE claim that we now know is 100% bullshit. ANN published a photo of a girl from the UK (I think) being hugged and kissed by Vic, and the girl came out and told ANN that she gave him consent, that her mother was present, and then asked them to take the picture down. They complied, but couldn't be arsed to do a retraction.

That looks like an airtight libel claim against ANN in that one instance, and is (understandably) casting some of the other stuff in doubt.

If I met a celeb I liked, I wouldn't particularly care if they hugged or kissed me without permission tbh. I'd think they were overly tactile, but I'd probably forget/disregard it by the time I was at the next stall in the con. If he had wandering hands during these hugs I'd understand the upset, but otherwise? no.

 

[verissimus]

Without wanting to scroll through nearly 40 pages, did he actually do anything objectively objectionable - underage or unconsensual?

Nothing so far. It would have been your typical much ado about nothing until the usual autists came around and blew things out of proportion.

 

[AF 802]

as usual, i had a feeling a good portion of this vic stuff was bullshit in the first place. while vic himself may seem a little odd, he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would do this unconsentually (the hugging/kissing part). i'd sue at this point, fuck these people, some people with dangerous ideas just ruined your career.

 

[Captain Manning]

Rekieta Law just posted a new video.

We're gonna have to bring everyone on this...

Spoiler

It's a interesting video, but I find it disappointing Nick didn't mention ANN. I think the case against them is the closest thing to a slam dunk. Publishing that particular picture was negligent.

If Vic sues, I wish him luck. I wonder if Nick has some indication on this, or whether he's just trying to entice him to do it.

 

[Jeanne d'Arc]

Never go to cons to meet your heroes. Go to cons to buy shit in their "creator's corners", meet up with people, and maybe attend the occasional panel not run by psychopaths.

Don't watch dubs, also. If you buy anything from Crunchyroll or Funimation you're not supporting the industry that makes good anime, you're supporting what is essentially a talent agency with no respect for source material. The closest thing to a "good" western anime licensing company right now is GKIDS and they're still not perfect- but they try at least. Hell, even Disney/Weinstein was pretty good with their handling of Ghibli shit (even with the atrocious handling of Mononoke and Nausicaa) compared to Funimation and Crunchyroll.

I doubt Vic has really done anything much, as @Jaimas has said what's happening to him is a product of the fucking garbage culture western licensing companies are swimming in.

It's a interesting video, but I find it disappointing Nick didn't mention ANN. I think the case against them is the closest thing to a slam dunk. Publishing that particular picture was negligent.

If Vic sues, I wish him luck. I wonder if Nick has some indication on this, or whether he's just trying to entice him to do it.

He'd do what Hogan did to Gawker to ANN. They're nothing lmfao. Those VA he mentioned probably bring in more then ANN yearly. Rooster Teeth and Funimation are large companies, and that's where the money if he's suing anyone is. I think he's got a solid case against Funi, but I'd need to know more about the Rooster Teeth situation before saying anything. Seems like they just kind of discreetly dropped him, but forgive me if they made some shitfit about it and I didn't hear.

 

[Captain Manning]

He'd do what Hogan did to Gawker to ANN.

That's a reward greater than any monetary one. ANN is cancer, and it would send a warning to Kotaku and Polygon to watch out.

 

[Next Task]

I know a lot of people here want to support him because of who he is being accused by, but I had a different take that some might not have heard before.

The Farms in general is pretty good at not just dismissing accusations, but wanting there to be some evidence to go with it it. Not perfect, but that's the prevailing mood. So a decent number of people are saying 'well, some of the claims are dubious at best, but there might be something to how many there are, and it's probable that he's at least fairly dickish on the con scene.'

But that's different to listen and believing, so everyone here is a monster, of course, and should be reported to all the agencies. The inappropriately sexual contact up to attempted rape allegations require more than just hearsay, and are really not helped by at least one of the claims being demonstrably false and one of the chats showing at least one person willing to fake evidence to make him seem guilty.

It would also help if the claims of him being homophobic appeear to have nothing to do with actual homophobia, and more about him being both Christian and unwilling to sign yaoi and other bullshit that weebs have no business bringing up to any VA to sign.

So he might be shit for other reasons. Just not the reasons that got him hashtagged and fired. Evidence is always appreciated, preferably sourced.

 

[AF 802]

The Farms in general is pretty good at not just dismissing accusations, but wanting there to be some evidence to go with it it. Not perfect, but that's the prevailing mood. So a decent number of people are saying 'well, some of the claims are dubious at best, but there might be something to how many there are, and it's probable that he's at least fairly dickish on the con scene.'

But that's different to listen and believing, so everyone here is a monster, of course, and should be reported to all the agencies. The inappropriately sexual contact up to attempted rape allegations require more than just hearsay, and are really not helped by at least one of the claims being demonstrably false and one of the chats showing at least one person willing to fake evidence to make him seem guilty.

It would also help if the claims of him being homophobic appeear to have nothing to do with actual homophobia, and more about him being both Christian and unwilling to sign yaoi and other bullshit that weebs have no business bringing up to any VA to sign.

So he might be shit for other reasons. Just not the reasons that got him hashtagged and fired. Evidence is always appreciated, preferably sourced.

that last part is why i hate how religious people in any sort of position can't be open about it. christianity is a breeding ground for stupid, sure, but assaulting someone's beliefs because they don't agree with your movement having free reign is stupid.

plus think about it, bringing yaoi for a VA to sign in public is like asking a porn star to sign hardcore smut in the same way.

 

[Chichan]

It's a interesting video, but I find it disappointing Nick didn't mention ANN. I think the case against them is the closest thing to a slam dunk. Publishing that particular picture was negligent.

If Vic sues, I wish him luck. I wonder if Nick has some indication on this, or whether he's just trying to entice him to do it.

Someone in the comments asked about it and this is how it went down.
"What about Anime News Network? Can they be sued for libel for posting unverified stories and pictures that were debunked or used without permission?"(SomeWeeb)
Then Nick said "Probably...I left them out because I assume they are poor."

 

[Next Task]

plus think about it, bringing yaoi for a VA to sign in public is like asking a porn star to sign hardcore smut in the same way.

Not even - it would be like asking JK Rowling to sign your Harry Potter slash fiction with graphic scenes of schoolboys getting it on. And then calling her homophobic if she didn't feel comfortable doing so.

(It would actually be more accurate to say 'asking Stephen Fry', because he's the only person I know who recorded the Harry Potter books, but they would call him misogynistic because the slash was written by a woman, rather than homophobic - and he's an atheist, so they couldn't blame his religion.)

 

[Captain Manning]

It would also help if the claims of him being homophobic appeear to have nothing to do with actual homophobia, and more about him being both Christian and unwilling to sign yaoi and other bullshit that weebs have no business bringing up to any VA to sign.

that last part is why i hate how religious people in any sort of position can't be open about it. christianity is a breeding ground for stupid, sure, but assaulting someone's beliefs because they don't agree with your movement having free reign is stupid.

He's not even the "fire and brimstone" type of Christian. He's more of the "Jesus loves you" type. There's a well known video of him telling protesters at an anime con to fuck off with their scary judgmental shit.

His refusal to sign yaoi art might be based on his personal beliefs, but I don't think he's ever tried to launch a holy crusade against yaoi.

The left doesn't want tolerance. They want obedience. These are the same people that aren't happy with the fact they can get a same-sex marriage license from the state. They want to force the local church to officiate the marriage.

 

[GeePee]

How long ago did Rials say Vic harassed/assaulted her? Juni Taisen aired late 2017 and she doesn't seem to have trouble interacting with Vic.

she was fine interacting with Vic just two months ago: https://twitter.com/Rialisms/status/1074880741337677825 (yes,she still has this tweet that makes her look bad and contradictory up ...)
just about a month and a half later,she calls him a sick monster when the stories start to blow up when the Broly movie came out...

Spoiler: Vic's true form?

Honestly, at the end of the day, I have little trouble believing that Vic is a cow unto himself. That's separate from what they're trying to hang him over though.

you know what's even funnier?the main villain of that arc tried to rape Asuna in front of Kirito during the final fight.The kicker?he was voiced by Todd Haberkorn...
P.S: extra points for both characters being voiced by Natsu and Lucy from Fairy Tail...

 

[Super-Chevy454]

she was fine interacting with Vic just two months ago: https://twitter.com/Rialisms/status/1074880741337677825 (yes,she still has this tweet that makes her look bad and contradictory up ...)
just about a month and a half later,she calls him a sick monster when the stories start to blow up when the Broly movie came out...

Just in case if she deletes it. http://archive.is/uaSi1

And that start to blow when the Broly movie came out, am I the only one who think there's more than meet the eyes?

 

[Captain Manning]

she was fine interacting with Vic just two months ago: https://twitter.com/Rialisms/status/1074880741337677825 (yes,she still has this tweet that makes her look bad and contradictory up ...)
just about a month and a half later,she calls him a sick monster when the stories start to blow up when the Broly movie came out...

Remember to archive guys. She can, and possibly will, go into DFE mode at any moment. You'll make a certain lawyer in MN very happy.

you know what's even funnier?the main villain of that arc tried to rape Asuna in front of Kirito during the final fight.The kicker?he was voiced by Todd Haberkorn...
P.S: extra points for both characters being voiced by Natsu and Lucy from Fairy Tail...

I don't follow the relevance.

I do think the Fairy Dance arc wasn't as bad as people say. When said bad guy got his shit pushed in at the end, it was pretty satisfying.

Just in case if she deletes it. http://archive.li/uaSi1