Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Jaimas]

I expect no apology after the civil trial should Vic obliterate them. They're all the same egotistical assholes.

The only pure and good actor is Chris Pratt. Prove me wrong.

Scott fucking McNeil.

 

[damian]

Shane can't stop. Here he is claiming to have inside information on how it really went down and how all the Cons worked together to get Vic kicked off panels. He claims to know alot. Guess the Beard will have to depose him.

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Shane! You absolute madman! I love this guy, He's so self confident despite the constant massive humiliation, it's a sight to behold.

 

[SiccDicc]

Scott fucking McNeil.

He hasn't stepped into the fray yet and ResetERA seems upset he signed some fans' cleavage, so I stand corrected.

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

What I would give to watch this guy get deposed in real time.

Welp, there's a new and unexpected income stream to BHBH...

Though it should be pointed out Deposition will be public record. It might be transcripts. With some luck we could have a nice video....

Or we could have a drunk Nick going through it all.

 

[Pedro Sanchez]

So about the whole Anime Matsuri drama, the people over at AnimeNewsNetwork, specifically everyone's favorite Jacob Chapman and Mike Toole (the guy who accused YouTubers LostPause and ClownfishTV of being Nazis) are now spreading out the Tweet about how Anime Matsuri is advertising on Nick Rikieta's stream which labels it a 'harassment' stream. I guess I shouldn't be surprised Anime News Network has a bone to pick with AnimeMatsuri.

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Marzgurl also pops into Mike Tool's thread. God damn, these people are all pretty incestuous aren't they? They basically assert that AM must fudge the numbers because there's no way it's the 2nd biggest anime convention in America. They do their own detective work of hotel sizes, critiquing the guests and goers, etc. Keep in mind 'conspiracy theories' are banned from the Anime News Network forums, or at least that's what they said in the Vic Mignogna thread on their forums to prevent people from posting all this kind of information and questioning the victims. I guess this isn't a conspiracy theory, it's just good ol' investigative journalism.

 

[Captain Manning]

From the GFM:

Oh sure.

Well... except for the fact nobody has accused Vic of rape....
...and there is actual evidence against Harvey...
...including audio recordings...
...and he's facing criminal charges...
...and the victim's accounts were credible enough to get us to a criminal trial...

Other than those minor details, yeah... sure. I'm totally supporting the Harvey Weinstein of anime voice acting.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

From the GFM:

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Oh sure.

Well... except for the fact nobody has accused Vic of rape....
...and there is actual evidence against Harvey...
...including audio recordings...
...and he's facing criminal charges...
...and the victim's accounts were credible enough to get us to a criminal trial...

Other than those minor details, yeah... sure. I'm totally supporting the Harvey Weinstein of anime voice acting.

Harvey Weinstein is being charged with rape and criminal sex acts. He could go to prison like Bill Cosby. Even Kevin Spacey is being charged with indecent battery. How is any of this remotely close to the stuff Vic did and is going through?

 

[TheClappening]

From the GFM:

Oh sure.

Well... except for the fact nobody has accused Vic of rape....
...and there is actual evidence against Harvey...
...including audio recordings...
...and he's facing criminal charges...
...and the victim's accounts were credible enough to get us to a criminal trial...

Other than those minor details, yeah... sure. I'm totally supporting the Harvey Weinstein of anime voice acting.

No, they (and you) are wrong. He's actually the Hitler of anime, since Hitler hated Jews and gays and so does Vic Mignogna.

 

[Mike_Hunt_WY]

No, they (and you) are wrong. He's actually the Hitler of anime, since Hitler hated Jews and gays and so does Vic Mignogna.

No, you're wrong. Hitler loved animals, and I have it on good authority from ResetEra that Vic eats a raw fresh puppy heart every morning for breakfast. He's actually worse than Hitler!

 

[Ponderous Pillock]

So about the whole Anime Matsuri drama, the people over at AnimeNewsNetwork, specifically everyone's favorite Jacob Chapman and Mike Toole (the guy who accused YouTubers LostPause and ClownfishTV of being Nazis) are now spreading out the Tweet about how Anime Matsuri is advertising on Nick Rikieta's stream which labels it a 'harassment' stream. I guess I shouldn't be surprised Anime News Network has a bone to pick with AnimeMatsuri.

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Marzgurl also pops into Mike Tool's thread. God damn, these people are all pretty incestuous aren't they? They basically assert that AM must fudge the numbers because there's no way it's the 2nd biggest anime convention in America. They do their own detective work of hotel sizes, critiquing the guests and goers, etc. Keep in mind 'conspiracy theories' are banned from the Anime News Network forums, or at least that's what they said in the Vic Mignogna thread on their forums to prevent people from posting all this kind of information and questioning the victims. I guess this isn't a conspiracy theory, it's just good ol' investigative journalism.

The hotels don't have to be partners when everyone knows when the fucking thing is coming.

I know a shitload of guest houses and hotels near major tourist railways when they have big events on don't "partner up" with the railway itself, they just know to try and clear the decks ready for the influx of families, or cameramen or whoever the fuck turns up ready for these things.

Also "why no overflow hotels? Why only one hotel? BIG THINK" style tweets are fucking hilarious considering the hotel they're advertising is the one connected to the goddamn convention centre. You can also stuff like, 5 to a room officially in these places and it's usually far more, so in theory around 6,000 guests can be in that Hotel before they pile into the convention centre.

It's also near a district pretty much stuffed full of hotels. So it's not like you're starved for choice.

Jesus Christ, these people are so smooth brained.

 

[Captain Manning]

Honestly, the biggest disappointment for me in all this has been some of the industry people I used to look up to. Not the VAs. I could really GAS about most of the VAs.

That means Mike Toole, Justin Sevakis, and even Neil Nadelman. Especially Nadelman.

A brutally honest reminder to never meet your heroes.

Scott fucking McNeil.

Met him. Interesting guy. He makes that hat actually work.

If he got accused of shit tomorrow, he too would have an army of fangirls rush to his defense. Seen it with thyne own eyes.

 

[The Fair Lady]

I didn't want to believe it but you are right. What a shame. She's done some work I really enjoyed and has always seemed nice in her interviews, so it's sad to see her join in with the same mindless sloganeering and zero-calorie platitudes as the rest of the mob.

The irony of speaking out against cowardice and then pretending she's talking about some secret horrifying experience that she of course won't describe when she's called out is not lost on me, either.

Wow, Cristina’s a cunt. Guess it’s fitting that she plays Sailor Mars.

 

[Marco Fucko]

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Fuck off Christina, your Homura is flat and your cover of Bad Apple was shit.

 

[The Incel Whisperer]

From the GFM:

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Oh sure.

Well... except for the fact nobody has accused Vic of rape....
...and there is actual evidence against Harvey...
...including audio recordings...
...and he's facing criminal charges...
...and the victim's accounts were credible enough to get us to a criminal trial...

Other than those minor details, yeah... sure. I'm totally supporting the Harvey Weinstein of anime voice acting.

Its the same thing because people have been saying bad things about them for years and nothing ever happened until recently, just ignore everything else and the context of these reports and the relative power these 2 people have in their respective fields and the evidence presented. Totally the same. Its so stupid, either vic has been sexually harassing people for almosy 2 decades and no one did any thing or vic did nothing worth all this hullabaloo. No matter what the #kickvic side is not some moral paragon of virtue as they would like to pretend to be.

 

[Captain Manning]

So about the whole Anime Matsuri drama, the people over at AnimeNewsNetwork, specifically everyone's favorite Jacob Chapman and Mike Toole (the guy who accused YouTubers LostPause and ClownfishTV of being Nazis) are now spreading out the Tweet about how Anime Matsuri is advertising on Nick Rikieta's stream which labels it a 'harassment' stream. I guess I shouldn't be surprised Anime News Network has a bone to pick with AnimeMatsuri.

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Marzgurl also pops into Mike Tool's thread. God damn, these people are all pretty incestuous aren't they? They basically assert that AM must fudge the numbers because there's no way it's the 2nd biggest anime convention in America. They do their own detective work of hotel sizes, critiquing the guests and goers, etc. Keep in mind 'conspiracy theories' are banned from the Anime News Network forums, or at least that's what they said in the Vic Mignogna thread on their forums to prevent people from posting all this kind of information and questioning the victims. I guess this isn't a conspiracy theory, it's just good ol' investigative journalism.

So I guess since it's dawned on them that continuing to go after Vic is probably a VERY bad idea until the dust settles, they're going to snipe away at the periphery of all this by going after AM.

Bold move. Let's see if it pays off.

 

[Medicated]

So I guess since it's dawned on them that continuing to go after Vic is probably a VERY bad idea until the dust settles, they're going to snipe away at the periphery of all this by going after AM.

Bold move. Let's see if it pays off.

Going after Anime Matsuri is a safer bet. John the owner of AM, is a confirmed sleaze who has a thing for Gothic Lolitas, and hit on them regularly, theres screenshotted PM's of him trying to flirt, even buying them gifts and trips. The funny thing is, it was never a huge deal outside the Lolita community, until he pissed off ScarfingScarves and she decided to devote her entire life to destroying Anime Matsuri by creating BAM.

So I suspect, that she was accepting of his advances, and when he decided to break it off, she decided it was time to get back at him. No way you'd drop your Twitter and Instagram and make your full time job destroying an anime con just because you heard of some sleazebag.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/tyler-willis-scarfingscarves.54114/

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I like how people are comparing some voice actor to a mega producer at Hollywood

 

[RodgerDodger]

Tupelo, Mississippi Daily Journal: Tupelo Con guest slated to appear amid sexual harassment claims

Tupelo, Mississippi Daily Journal has reported that Tupelo Con in Mississippi has allegedly investigated Vic Mignogna and will keep him on their guest list...

www.resetera.com

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Take measures to appease these people and they'll hang you with it.

interestingly I read that as “we investigated and found nothing substantiated” which lines up with Funimations original investigation. And also lines up with everything we have found.

Here you go. Basically they can't self reflect or read someone else's opinion without drastically reinterpreting it, so their off in their own delusion patting each other on the back.

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That is an interesting post, and one worthwhile to Ty and the Amazons. Take note of that early paragraph. “People have reported things to cons, security and hotels for years”. Great! Show me the incident reports. If anyone had done that there would be a paper trail. Especially from the Hotels. The document everything. So #kickvic has just claimed there is a paper trail. Where is it? Also note that even with that the complaints are once again regarding things that he does right up there on stage or in public as part of his presentation. The hair bit, hugs and kissing on the cheeks. Which are part of the performance. To date the only person to seemingly complain about it is Rial... 10 years after the fact.

Dear Jesus save this man's children from himself.

Save this man’s fiance’s Boyfriends children from himself!

Lmao, that's the tweet they think is going to redeem the movement? We were making fun of it a couple pages back.

You can't just say "#KickVic is over, we're done." It's just starting.

That’s the hilarity. Of course #kickvic isn’t over. It’s just getting started. The Hashtag itself is proof of the Legal Conspiracy. This isn’t like #Gamergate or #Comicsgate which we’re hashtag gatherings focused on broad non specific ideas. # kickvic is very clearly targeted at a specific individual for the purpose of denying him employment, work opportunities and access to the industry he was a participant in for 20 years. It says it up front. “Kick Vic”. So yeah #kickvic will have a lively existence going forward, 8n litigation.

But it's not the Christian lawyers who decide if Vic gets away with murder. That's up to the judge and jury, who can very well be Christian, non-Christian, or even anti-Christian. If Vic's lawyers make more convincing arguments than the opposition, that's a function of their skill and intelligence, not their religion.

It’s Texas! The chances of finding a non Christian Judge and Jury are on par with finding Black People living in North Korea.

Because it works when weaker willed men bend over to the outrage mob and there is no base of support to lean on.

Just like Rieketa said, they grossly underestimated how much support Vic was going to have, and (in my opinion at least) how large the stones Vic had to not back down and apologize to the mob.

That’s the fascinating thing here. Vic is seemingly undergoing a massive lesson or experience in Faith here. The weaker willed men groveled scrapped and bowed down to the faithless horde. Seeking only to appease them. Vic was polite, apologized if they didn’t like what he said, but held firm in his beliefs and prayed for deliverance. And then something miraculous happened. At the lowest point of his life. When he was driven from his community and work The people he had touched through his work, his faith or simply his life stood up beside him. Let that roll around in your heads a bit. This is the sort of story that will be taught in Sunday schools for years to come. And Kiwifarms is part of the hand of God. Don’t let it go to your heads.

I don't think the SJWs are going to be terribly fond of these extremely strong women who are going to be curb stomping them and their lying witnesses.

They will attempt to “Sarah Palin” them.

Do Nick and Ty know the full story of MarzGurl, JewWario, Change The Channel, and so on? The fact that MarzGurl was friends with, shared a hotel room, and even made a movie for an alleged molester/rapist may have impacted her psychologically. And she only found this out after participating in a MeToo campaign in which she learned some of her friends had been hiding this fact from her.

MarzGurl has no money. She can't afford a long term legal fight or a big loss. Her best hope is to settle early for a small amount. (Can she turn around and testify on Vic's behalf? If she says everything was bullshit, she could get off scot-free.)

If not, I'll probably longpost on it for him later.

That is very important. I know it’s a ton to read through but someone let Nick, Ty and the Amazon’s know to read through the Channel Awesome thread as well as those of a few of the CA cows such as Pregler. There is a lot of interesting and important backstory there involving Marzgurl, and the motives and past history that led to #Kickvic.

Even if they lose, they will still spin it into a win, especially if they get the national media to go to bat for them.

It's them attacking the con indirectly. The con isn't going to capitulate to them, especially not with the owner suffering from his own MeToo hoax. (And yes, new rule: All MeToo allegations are hoaxes until a police report is provided.) So they have to try and harm it in other ways.

The con won't obey their woke masters, but artists tend to be more woke than average, so they might just be able to drive some of them away. And even those artists that aren't woke probably are left leaning, which means they're susceptible to empathy attacks -- i.e., social pressure, shaming, etc.

And if the con can't fill the artist alley, the con might tank financially.

I still get the feeling that AM and John Leigh are talking with Ty Beard and company. I don’t know how much of a case they may have. But it seems clear that at least in Texas the damn is breaking with regards to the SJW shakedown brigade of Mean Girls.

And a corset belt for that pear shape

There’s always cosplay lewds? I mean those thirsty beta fucks seem to love throwing money at over the hill marshmallow shaped women in cat ears for some reason? Apparently nobody ever told them there is free porn in the interwebz?

The SJWs get away with it usually. This is a rare chance to see a clique of them see some actual blowback. Take "solace" in the fact that Vic's career will take years to recover if it ever does, and this has probably killed the Texas Voice Actor community, which will be devastating for the Anime industry in the US.

How many communities and industries have these fools burned down now? Yet they never seem to realize that all their victories do is make their own selves and fellows unemployed and unemployable. With CTC they somehow managed to completely not effect the Walker brothers, who simply ignored them, but instead burned down their own feeble income streams as they shattered their one common link to the paying thirsty dweebs. “Can anybody crowdfund my rent and cat food y’all?” The same thing is about to come crashing down on their heads over in Comics. There is serious talk of Disney shuttering Marvel and moving it all cross country and either in house, or subcontract it out to more professional providers. Yet another home these Dangerhaired Dweebs burned down around themselves.

So far as I know the most credible claimant is fucking Jamie Marchi.

Roll that around in your noggin a bit.

The other credible shit is that he's apparently a prima donna at cons and a dick to con staff.

Even that I'm beginning to doubt. Con staff are a bunch of autistic dickheads who think they're incredibly important for doing shit for free and I'm beginning to think he just somehow bruised their little egos and this whole thing is just butthurt con staff angry they didn't get their asses kissed by some VA.

Vic has admitted to being a dick to Con staff, but understandably so. Guests agree to come based on certain promises of services. Things like transportation, meals, certain expectations of accommodations and support. When the cons fail to provide what they promised, (which they often do) the guests get upset and irate. The con staff bears the brunt of that ire. And thus begin the Prima Donna stories. Everybodies patience wears thin when long travel and being at the mercy of disorganized host organizations is involved.

 

[captkrisma]

So a bunch of conventions worked together to ban Vic from attending...you mean...conspire? Cause they're the same thing.

Shane's skull has to be it's own measurement of density at this point.

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

The only pure and good actor is Chris Pratt. Prove me wrong.

Sorry did you mean Chris Evans?

Fuck off Christina, your Homura is flat and your cover of Bad Apple was shit.

Omg does anyone remember when she was on YouTube under the handle milkycabbage? She was so obsessed with Haruhi Suzumiya that she wanted to do the OP (it went undubbed) and voice Haruhi (it went to Wendee Lee). Fail.