DanteFraco
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Live stream fine for me, refresh or close programs that eating up your net.
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Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread
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Partial replay is live now, last 17 minutes.
I missed the first half, but what I did see was just stuff we already knew.
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I can sorta speak to this.
I was assigned as a "personal assistant" at an anime con in Arizona, in 2005, and my assigned person was a VA who had a prominent role in Full Metal Alchemist (it wasn't Vic).
Basically the job entailed making sure his needs were taken care of if he had any (I would check in on him from time to time), and moderating his panel. It was a cake job. He was a nice person.
So, yes. cons usually assign PAs, but they're not like parole officers, or baby sitters, or anything in your face.
I think it's possible this con gave Vic a PA, and is using the fact they did something they would have done regardless as means to get people to shut the fuck up.
Then again, it's also possible he's being tailed and monitored. I dunno.
More of a lurker, but some thing that I haven't seen factored in...the difference between the other -gates, the layoffs from click-baiting gossip sites that would that helped the kickvic-ers to control the narrative. just a thought.
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Having some one assigned to Vic at cons is in everyone's best interest. It removes any chance of him molesting anyone (not saying he has, but obviously cons want to be cautious). It gives Vic some peace of mind from being attack by some danger hair or white knight looking for asspats and lastly it means that when the inevitable accusations start after said con appearence (you can bet your ass they will try it) both Vic and the con have some one who can vouch that nothing happened.
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Con-Munnity Festival 2019
Amarillo Civic Center Complex
Amarillo, TX
From the look and sound of it, they're set up in a large room as opposed to having a small room just for Nick's panel. If I had to guess, since he's set up in front of 4 exit doors, they're probably at the south end of the South Exhibit Hall.
This would be a good question for Nick, but if a court has already ruled that the statements are defamatory and the defendant at that point still refuses to retract them, could the damages resulting from those statements potentially continue to pile up? I'd assume that attempting to collect them would necessarily involve a second lawsuit, so it might not be worth pursuing it unless there was a good chance of actually collecting something from them.
At the end of the stream for his last panel, he just verified that he definitely will be streaming at 11:00 PM tonight (central time).
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It does beg the question why conventions decided to just cancel his appearances in them as opposed to just having someone watch him while he attends the conventions.
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Gotta get those asspats from cretins who weren't even going to come in the first place.
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I had a bit of a funny thought about why the KickVic people haven't lawyered up. What if some of them like Rial did go to a lawyer and present the story, but when they did their research into the case thought it was so hilariously one-sided that they didn't want that bad a loss on their record and said no?
Dumb, I know, but a little part of me enjoys the idea that Rial/Marchie are so fucked that lawyers are just going "Yeah no I don't want this on my record, maybe I can recommend them to someone I hate?"
Dumb, I know, but a little part of me enjoys the idea that Rial/Marchie are so fucked that lawyers are just going "Yeah no I don't want this on my record, maybe I can recommend them to someone I hate?"
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More like they wanted money up front. I don't see a lawyer even touching the defense side for anything less than $10K just to get started and representation stops the instant the money runs out. And that's just for settlement negotiations, maybe arguing a motion to dismiss, and not much else.
They shouldn't really be trusting Funimation unless Funimation told them to get their own lawyers, because Funi's defense is (or easily could be) they didn't do anything wrong, it was Rial/Marchi/Marzgurl and these other idiots who fucked up. Unless they have a really good reason to think otherwise, they should seriously consider that Funi is hanging them out to dry.
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If a retraction is ordered by the courts and the defendant refuses to issue it, there is no second lawsuit required. If Vic and his lawyers make a good faith effort to gain such retraction and it is not issued, or the defendant categorically refuses to issue it, then they can return to the court which may hold the defendants in contempt of court. Now this is where it gets interesting. Civil contempt of court may carry criminal or civil penalties. The party charged with contempt will more than like be notified of the charge and a hearing will be held. As I've already explained, in this case, as the refusal to carry out court orders will actually damage Vic, it could be considered criminal contempt. But contempt is handled differently than a normal trial. For one a contempt trial is entirely at the prerogative of the court. In other words, the judge decides the contempt case, and there is no jury involved. So the judge who issued the order may also be the one deciding if the defendants are in contempt of court. In criminal contempt, the charge must be true beyond a reasonable doubt, just like other criminal cases. However, because there is no jury, only the judge hears the evidence, and if decides its contempt, then the punishment, whether it be a fine or even jail time, is imposed unconditionally (no appeal outside of procedural issues nor are there special stipulations). Civil contempt is not any better; there is a lower standard of evidence (clear and convincing evidence, as opposed to reasonable doubt), and if the judge decides you are guilty, the court (usually the sheriff or another court officer) can hold you until you comply with the court's order. That's right; if the court rules as such, the court can hold Marzgirl in a cell if she refuses to retract her statements, for years if necessary, until she finally complies with the courts demands and this can be done indefinitely. There are no constitutional limits on this; the longest a man has been held by the courts like this was 14 years and this was constitutional according to federal courts (see Chadwick v. Janecka (3d Cir. 2002)). Since the person held in civil contempt "holds the keys to their own cell" (i.e. they can get out at any time if they comply with court orders), conventional due process is not required.
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You think maybe those without lawyers will try to self-represent as a way to save costs / so cock sure in their own "evidence"?
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They are free to self-represent; the judge presiding over the court hearings may try to dissuade them, but in a civil trial, the court will not provide a lawyer for their defense. If they do try it, they are beyond stupid. It will just accelerate their demise.
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This is way off topic but holy cow that Chadwick guy could probably have his own thread here after choosing to spend fourteen years in jail rather than pay his ex-wife her money.
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I want them to. It would be hilarious. They are dumb as shit if any of them do that
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So this might be old hat, but I'll share it anyway.
A while back ago, I checked Behind the Voice Actors (BTVA)'s profile on Vic Mignogna.
Someone posted this tweet from J. Michael Tatum:
https://twitter.com/DylanOgden6/status/1063549463422218240
Note the date: November 16, 2018.
A while back ago, I checked Behind the Voice Actors (BTVA)'s profile on Vic Mignogna.
Someone posted this tweet from J. Michael Tatum:
https://twitter.com/DylanOgden6/status/1063549463422218240
Note the date: November 16, 2018.
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They probably think they can just start a GFM for legal costs if they get served and it turns out they're on their own. What they're not taking into account is that from the time they get served, the clock is ticking. They would have to find a lawyer and raise sufficient funds to retain them within a relatively short time-frame.
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When Linus Torvalds, the creator of Linux, was being targeted by the Ada Initiative -- a literal dangerhair organization in Tech -- for a rape hoax to take him out, he literally started bringing people with him to his hotel room, everywhere at Expos, even to the bathroom with him. Because they were trying to do whatever, anything they could to get him alone so they could claim rape. This was confirmed by ESR, one of the other old greyhaired tech gods.
Ada Initiative split up long ago, creating 3 or 4 other smaller dangerhair groups to maximize the chance one of them would succeed in taking over tech companies et all, but one of their members, Sarah Sharp, pretended to be offended at the evil Linus calling her stupid or something -- in the "it doesn't matter my code doesn't compile, I have a vagina that means I'm right" manner that dangerhairs work in, which did get her a ton of press -- and then decided she wasn't Sarah Sharp, she was Sage Sharp, Nonbinary notgirl. Because being a white "cis" woman wasn't enough oppression points in her character sheet, she needed to respec for proper minmaxing.
Last I heard they got some kind of blackmail on Linus (most likely through his daughter, who went to college and fell into Gender Studies) and he took a step back and let them institute a Dangerhair inquisition in tech, and within the first 12 hours they tried to have an Asian coder on the Linux Kernel thrown out because he dared not let some dangerhair speak on behalf of his race, or somesuch nonsense.
So yeah. Vic having an escort? VERY smart idea. In fact, if I were Vic, I'd bring along 1 or 2 of his own just in case. Because as we've seen with Pensacon, some of these conventions are on the KickVic sides and I could 100% see them giving him an escort then being "forced" to throw Vic out due to "verifyable claims of harassment" or somesuch tripe.