Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

Take away the Guns, Censor the Video, Throw people in Jail for Having the Video, or do it all?

  • Just take the guns, it'll work out fine.

    Votes: 65 5.9%
  • Doesn't matter, it's Trump's Fault.

    Votes: 271 24.4%
  • Just ban the video, it's totally doable.

    Votes: 39 3.5%
  • DO EVERYTHING!

    Votes: 207 18.6%
  • Make Null turn us over, that'll make us safe.

    Votes: 528 47.6%

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I do not endorse these wrongthink memes and if you laugh at them you deserve the same thing as people who find a theme in huckleberry finn.

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I do think he may have been less radicalized than he made it seem like, what with his memeing while in captivity. I'm starting to lean towards him actually be the attention seeking type of shooter using as many memes and buzzwords as possible to get attention, but that's up to the courts to decide. That said, I'm not sure I'm ready to believe /pol/'s dumbass false flag theories unless it comes out he was in contact with ISIS or something.

The courts won't decide his motivation, only his innocence or guilt.

Given how much of his behaviour was an intentional reference to something else, he may well do a Martin Bryant and make no further comment about his motives. He knows damned well that having no answer to the question of "were those your real motives" will taunt the media and the public alike.

The one part that doesn't fit, is that he posted it on 8chan.

If he was either /pol/ or 8ch /pol/ radicalized, his targets was far less likely to be muslims, it would have been jews.

That's assuming that his 8ch post was anything other than yet another edgelord reference. Maybe he just posted it there to bring a trope to life, and knowing full well that channers would archive shit ASAP. I don't think him choosing 8ch to announce his intentions and point people to the stream necessarily means chans were incubators for his anti-Muslim sentiments. It could easily be another instance of him knowing exactly how to get maximum impact and using 8ch as a tool in the same way he used FB as a tool.
 
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I'm pretty sure the dude is acting that way on purpose. Accelerationist tactic to get people to react. The minute he said "Subscribe to Pewdiepie" it was clear that for him at least this was going to be the biggest shitpost the world has ever seen.

I did consider the accelerationist angle. He could very well be. It just seems at odds with his manifesto. His manifesto and his motivations were internally based - me, I. There was no real rallying. Accelerationists often have ties to an organized ideology, where his motivations were like I said - internally produced. He saw, He felt.

I mean he seems smart enough and his ideas weren't wrong, so perhaps after his motivations cultivated to intentions, he leaned more towards accelerationist methods, but I just don't feel comfortable with that. Something isn't adding up for me.

Seeing media colleagues wet themselves over how perfect this is too, really gets my hackles up.

I don't agree with /pol's "it's a false flag" or a staged event or anything like that, I'm not talking about that, it's just his methodologies don't agree with one another. I don't think it's because "well he's a sperg and a nutcase so of course he wouldn't be logic, he's shit posting", because his reasons were very logical, his reasons were well measured. But then his methodology turned to something at odds with that measure. It's uncommon. I've only seen it in cases where the person has been externally radicalized, somewhere between motivation and intention, something which he said hasn't happened.
 
Why do I feel like this is going to trigger a chain of events and we're all going to be worse off because of it? Someone tell me I'm wrong please.

Oh you're not wrong.
The purge has begun. There's been a Youtube algorithmic change today. I noticed two very disparate Youtuber's get suddenly 'un-partnered'. Owen Benjamin, erratic sperg and alleged comic, and Hero Hei who's part of the whole anime-gate #istandwithVic nonsense. Both have been completely demonetized. It seems that there's a ban-hammer coming out for whoever's on their shitlord list. My guess would be that Tommy Robinson will be gone by the end of the week.
 
The courts won't decide his motivation, only his innocence or guilt.

Given how much of his behaviour was an intentional reference to something else, he may well do a Martin Bryant and make no further comment about his motives. He knows damned well that having no answer to the question of "were those your real motives* will taunt the media and the public alike.
Probably should have said court psychologists, because that's probably the best we're going to get on his true motivations. I have no doubt when he gets interviewed he's going to give nonsensical answers.
 
Oh you're not wrong.
The purge has begun. There's been a Youtube algorithmic change today. I noticed two very disparate Youtuber's get suddenly 'un-partnered'. Owen Benjamin, erratic sperg and alleged comic, and Hero Hei who's part of the whole anime-gate #istandwithVic nonsense. Both have been completely demonetized. It seems that there's a ban-hammer coming out for whoever's on their shitlord list. My guess would be that Tommy Robinson will be gone by the end of the week.
I don't know, Youtube algorithm has been pretty based, all day recommending to me (and thousands of other people, judging by Youtube comments) the individual tracks used in Mr. Tarrant's shooting playlist
 
That's what his manifesto claims, that he was a normal average guy. But he traveled the world for 7 years, including north korea, which is a bit of a red flag; not many people have reason to go to north korea.

There was also a mysterious diplomatic suicide yesterday in the same region in Pakistan where he visited last year and posted about how much he loved being in Pakistan.

And finally there was a large spyring previously discovered in christchurch: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...rthed-because-of-Christchurch-earthquake.html

So, yes the claim is that he was a normal guy in his manifesto... it doesn't completely seem to fit with his traveling itenary.
If this ends up being a mossad gay op i wouldnt be surprised, after all the amount of goverment agencys that shitpost in /k/ and /pol/ is surprisingly high
 
You know, I think there is something we should all remember.

The vast majority of people don't approve of this. They are good. They don't hate each other. They don't want to hurt each other. People, normal people, want to help each other. The human race couldn't have made it this far if that wasn't true. This will not tear us apart. In times of crisis, Humanity does not succumb to evil, it unites against it. For every one person who either commits or condones an act of violence like this you will find a million more who would never do and outright abhor such a thing.

I know it doesn't seem like it now, but we have to remember that people like Tarrant aren't normal and neither are their worldviews. Ordinary people don't consider him a hero and will not give into hatred and violence as easily as he did. Simply put, they will not break and turn upon one another just because one man's act of genocidal cowardice says that they should. It takes a lot more than one bad day to turn normal people into monsters.

And that's something that Tarrant in his own twisted, disillusioned world can't even conceive of.
 
You know, I think there is something we should all remember.

The vast majority of people don't approve of this. They are good. They don't hate each other. They don't want to hurt each other. People, normal people, want to help each other. The human race couldn't have made it this far if that wasn't true. This will not tear us apart. In times of crisis, Humanity does not succumb to evil, it unites against it. For every one person who either commits or condones an act of violence like this you will find a million more who would never do and outright abhor such a thing.

I know it doesn't seem like it now, but we have to remember that people like Tarrant aren't normal and neither are their worldviews. Ordinary people don't consider him a hero and will not give into hatred and violence as easily as he did. Simply put, they will not break and turn upon one another just because one man's act of genocidal cowardice says that they should. It takes a lot more than one bad day to turn normal people into monsters.

And that's something that Tarrant in his own twisted, disillusioned world can't even conceive of.

That's a lovely sentiment, and more than that, it's the truth. Which is why it's such a shame that it's about to be twisted to suit a lot of ugly agendas in the coming weeks....
 
He knows damned well that having no answer to the question of "were those your real motives" will taunt the media and the public alike.
Despite being a /pol/ack there hasn't been much of an angle specifically on shit brewing in the Middle East, like with the diplomat suicide.
Alternatively, it could be something balls to the wall nonsensical like "I did this to distract from Trudeau and SNC-Lavalin financing terrorists in Libya".
 
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You know, I think there is something we should all remember.

The vast majority of people don't approve of this. They are good. They don't hate each other. They don't want to hurt each other. People, normal people, want to help each other. The human race couldn't have made it this far if that wasn't true. This will not tear us apart. In times of crisis, Humanity does not succumb to evil, it unites against it. For every one person who either commits or condones an act of violence like this you will find a million more who would never do and outright abhor such a thing.

I know it doesn't seem like it now, but we have to remember that people like Tarrant aren't normal and neither are their worldviews. Ordinary people don't consider him a hero and will not give into hatred and violence as easily as he did. Simply put, they will not break and turn upon one another just because one man's act of genocidal cowardice says that they should. It takes a lot more than one bad day to turn normal people into monsters.

And that's something that Tarrant in his own twisted, disillusioned world can't even conceive of.
This can seem kind of faggy but I created an account to say that your post make me feel a little bit better
This might be against the "Don't post if you have nothing to say " but whatever, fuck it
thanks dude
 
Given how much of his behaviour was an intentional reference to something else, he may well do a Martin Bryant and make no further comment about his motives. He knows damned well that having no answer to the question of "were those your real motives" will taunt the media and the public alike.

If I was him? Wanting to maximize the chaos?

I'd immediately start claiming it was a false flag. "I was paid by Soros." Bonus points if he already set up some fake evidence of such, like wire transfers, or accounts on Its Going Down, or somesuch.

"The muslims died so that Antifa would finally take action against our true enemy, straight white men."
 
You know, I think there is something we should all remember.

The vast majority of people don't approve of this. They are good. They don't hate each other. They don't want to hurt each other. People, normal people, want to help each other. The human race couldn't have made it this far if that wasn't true. This will not tear us apart. In times of crisis, Humanity does not succumb to evil, it unites against it. For every one person who either commits or condones an act of violence like this you will find a million more who would never do and outright abhor such a thing.

I know it doesn't seem like it now, but we have to remember that people like Tarrant aren't normal and neither are their worldviews. Ordinary people don't consider him a hero and will not give into hatred and violence as easily as he did. Simply put, they will not break and turn upon one another just because one man's act of genocidal cowardice says that they should. It takes a lot more than one bad day to turn normal people into monsters.

And that's something that Tarrant in his own twisted, disillusioned world can't even conceive of.
People still make mistakes.
 
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