Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

Take away the Guns, Censor the Video, Throw people in Jail for Having the Video, or do it all?

  • Just take the guns, it'll work out fine.

    Votes: 65 5.9%
  • Doesn't matter, it's Trump's Fault.

    Votes: 271 24.4%
  • Just ban the video, it's totally doable.

    Votes: 39 3.5%
  • DO EVERYTHING!

    Votes: 207 18.6%
  • Make Null turn us over, that'll make us safe.

    Votes: 528 47.6%

  • Total voters
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So many people nowadays are concerned with a coming "Dark Age" that they fail to realize we're in one. We're in a cage so gilded that there are people here who unironically believe that humans are born as good people, and that there's some kind of magical force that will allow us to all get along if we just try hard enough.

Thinking of it brings about a feeling that I can't quite describe but is close to melancholy.

Exactly. The feeling it gives me is remembering childhood, which is a paradise feeling in some ways.

Now people live in eternal childhood, unwilling to bite the apple of knowledge and see the good and evil of this world.

Huxley was right in that the most dangerous thing wasn't bookburnings, but a population so juvenile and overstimulated that it had no interest in reading.

But besides that feeling it also gives me dread. Because most people on my side are politically children.
 
None of this is new to people who have followed this side of the internet's ideological sphere.

What is is that he acted on it, and if he gets the censorship that he wants, he'll have more like him.
I know it's not new, that's why I'm surprised it hasn't been clearly communicated yet.
 
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Rest easy, you're a whole lot more savvy than me, I'm ancient & only came in search of the video/manifesto. I feel like I've landed in some sort of parallel universe, because I'm not understanding any of the lingo, the smilies (where's the bloody legend for those btw), or anything else at all. Totally lost, but will persevere - ah, but that would mean you'd have to have some desire to get your head around this jargon!
I really hope you start posting regularly, but you need to up your troll game. Season it with subtlety, for God's sake.
 
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And before that, rotten dot com, and before that, stileproject. And before that, Usenet binaries groups and ftp directories on sites where the people who owned the computers didn't even know they were there.
So many great memories mentioned there with those websites. Sitting at home on my DSL line with my buddy looking at people who had blown their own heads off with shotguns, people who were hit by cars etc. I thought it was great, and very interesting, but I had to make sure my religious parents didn't see what I was looking at. It was not difficult.

This shit has existed forever online, and nothing will ever change that. You can try to censor it, but people will just continue to evade and figure ways to post videos of cartel torture sessions. I'm tired of the fucking pearl clutching moral majority. They can either be responsible enough to not watch it if they cannot handle it, or fuck off. I like what Dick Masterson says on matters such as these. "If they take away our Internet we'll fucking build a new one. And maybe we won't let you guys have any this time."

It's been said many times but I think it's important; We deserve the ability to view unfiltered reality if we so choose.
 
We, being all people of any free society, need to stop this cornering of distasteful ideas, lest it be the downfall of our normally peaceful societies. This guy was driven to extremism because he saw no other way to affect change in the world, and nobody with an honest and clear observation of what's transpired can say otherwise.
Is there any other way?
I see the TDS folks, the danger hairs, antifa and literal communists continue to gain ground step by step. they dont care for you or me, and will unperson someone because of perceived insult. look at Covington, or even Vic from animegate. The Democrats in the US even, they continue to step by fucking step get illegals the right to vote (as if they dont already) and once trump is out of office despite his faults, the democrats will have enough power to turn the US into effectively a one party state that wont give a single fuck about my vote or yours.

they have no interest in any form of discussion that isnt communist circlejerking in their echo chambers. you cant talk or reason with them, and attempting to do so is putting yourself at great risk of bodily and or financial harm. its only due to their Obscene incompetence no one that we know of has died yet, except for their own.

Ive tried to think of ways to change the future. and it might not be this year or next, or even in the next decade, but i see only two paths in the future for our "peaceful societies" which in some places are even too far gone, like Malmo sweden. and that is either complete destruction, or more of Brenton Tarrant in some vain effort to stop Destruction.

Am i wrong...? I hope i am. But i cant see any other options in the future.
 
Exactly. The feeling it gives me is remembering childhood, which is a paradise feeling in some ways.

Now people live in eternal childhood, unwilling to bite the apple of knowledge and see the good and evil of this world.

Huxley was right in that the most dangerous thing wasn't bookburnings, but a population so juvenile and overstimulated that it had no interest in reading.

But besides that feeling it also gives me dread. Because most people on my side are politically children.

As they say, this too shall pass. I only hope that both Huxley and Orwell will be shown to be wrong in the coming years. Even with shit like this I haven't lost hope yet for a solution to be found.

I really hope you start posting regularly, but you need to up your troll game. Season it with subtlety, for God's sake.

Some people are new here, and aren't faking it for the purposes of "journalism" or w/e.
 
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Someone said their domain was de-registered 4 days ago.
 


You're not wrong, but mainly due to the lack of the ability of people to talk about the myriad problems western societies are facing rather than ignoring them, for legal and societal reasons.
 
Can anyone tell me what the message that was posted at the top of the Kiwifarms page was about?
NZ is going full DELETE THIS over everywhere the shooter was, or where his manifesto and video are being held.

Except for twitter, facebook, youtube, and the media. of course.

it will make us conservatives "alt right nazis" look even worse in the eyes of the public and the main stream media is going to go on and on about this for months, so thanks a fucking lot you ugly Incel.
Since New Zealand signed the UN refugee pact I am sure we will see 20 more mosques pop up in every district in the city in a couple of years, and now you have just made people more sympathetic towards the extinction of our culture.
Also, that was his whole idea. He's an accelerationist. He wanted to enflame everyone to make the balloon go up faster, so folks start shooting and killing each other to try and unfuck the world.

"it can only get worse before it gets better. so lets make things worse"
 
Is there any other way?
I see the TDS folks, the danger hairs, antifa and literal communists continue to gain ground step by step. they dont care for you or me, and will unperson someone because of perceived insult. look at Covington, or even Vic from animegate. The Democrats in the US even, they continue to step by fucking step get illegals the right to vote (as if they dont already) and once trump is out of office despite his faults, the democrats will have enough power to turn the US into effectively a one party state that wont give a single fuck about my vote or yours.

they have no interest in any form of discussion that isnt communist circlejerking in their echo chambers. you cant talk or reason with them, and attempting to do so is putting yourself at great risk of bodily and or financial harm. its only due to their Obscene incompetence no one that we know of has died yet, except for their own.

Ive tried to think of ways to change the future. and it might not be this year or next, or even in the next decade, but i see only two paths in the future for our "peaceful societies" which in some places are even too far gone, like Malmo sweden. and that is either complete destruction, or more of Brenton Tarrant in some vain effort to stop Destruction.

Am i wrong...? I hope i am. But i cant see any other options in the future.
Play the game their way. Don't try and take the high ground and try and call them out for their hypocrisy, because they don't give a shit. Dig up their past and tar them with it any way you can. They'll eat their own just as readily as they'll eat anyone else, just look at James Gunn. #MeToo these fuckers as hard as you can, make up all sorts of sexual assault/rape/pedophilia claims and smear them with it. Fabricate evidence when needed, do what they did to Vic and plot ways you can make up new victims. Drive a wedge in between their groups, like come out as transgender and demand a halt to immigration because you're scared of homophobic Christian Mexicans.

If you can't win by playing their game, then you can go Brenton Tarrant and start killing people, preferably journalists and academics. But hopefully no one will have to do that.
 
I recently updated the security camera systems and helped implement a campaign called 'firewatch' (where armed members patrol the campus) for a church in my local community. There is legitimate paranoia of this happening in every worship center I've been to. Muslim, Jewish, Christian, hell even Buddhists.

Obviously I'm preaching to the choir, but the reason these people target such places is due to the lack of armed security.

So here's my point. If you are a member of a religion, or attend school, you need to have an armed presence and emergency plans in place. This isn't an isolated event, yes it can happen to you, and that video should be proof enough money is no object. Seriously pester the fuck out of these places until they comply. Get involved, because a simple armed presence alone makes a world of difference.

I'll be waiting to see how the Islamic extremist groups retaliate. You know they want to.


Also, as a critique in the shooter's methods. Why didn't he firebomb the place prior to entering? Terrible crowd control 5/10 (would've been a 3/10 but they just laid there in a huddled mass, so they made it easy).
 
We need to be able to have a conversation in the general public about what Islam is, why it is a problem, and how it's incompatible with our values as westerners.
Aight, so I'm braced for the colorful puzzle piece internet stickers, but I genuinely want to understand where you're coming from with this.

1. Say the "incompatible with our values as westerners" bit is true. In that case, what do you do about Islam? Ban it?

2. The generally held opinion here seems to be censorship in any form is bad and that freedom of speech. I also see a lot of if "x is banned, y and z will be too". Say you do want to ban it. If a whole established religion is banned (or otherwise restricted), is that not impending on personal freedoms? How do you prevent the eventual banning of other religions if a precedent has been set? And wouldn't that be censorship of like, the Quran?

I'm not trying to be like, "gotcha!" or whatever. I genuinely don't know.

Edit: Thanks for the respectful responses. I appreciate hearing yalls points of view.
 
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Well this is New Zealand so there won't be any armed guards in schools for a very long time, there will have to be a few more events for that to happen. The schools in the city went into lockdown which is basically just a bunch of unarmed people sitting around in rooms hoping there isn't a gunman about to use them as target practice. By the time the armed defenders arrive it would be a massacre.

Yes, NZ is absolutely fucked to no end in this regard. I wouldn't be surprised if this shooting sets off a wave. The police took 20 minutes to arrive, no one is armed, NZ has a low homicide rate.
 
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