Official Physical Health Speculation & Cancer Discussion - hulthy just big

[modereishaun]

I apologize if someone already brought this up, but I was checking in on my macros counting app and I got curious. As we all know, our gorl drinks a gallon of water a day, but that seemed par for the course, my minimum water requirements were reduced when I lost 20 pounds (thanks in part to our queen) so I wrote down her information and checked, as well as double-checking with a quick google search.

A gallon of water is a lot and potentially useful to someone 200 pounds and under. But at a dainty 564 "body type", her minimum daily requirement is a whopping 2 gallons a day! the most conservative estimation I could find was 1.9. I think we need to message these people and tell them they're wrong. Nutritionistlynn has all the knouletch she needs to lose weight!

 

[Munchma Quchi]

From what I understand, water requirements were determined by averaging urine output. Most people pee around 2 litres a day. So the recommendation was made to drink 2 litres water per day to equal the urine output.

But water intake includes food. If you eat a bowl of soup and follow it with some watermelon, your body uses that water. Even a meal of chicken and lettuce provides plenty of water.

Don't give Amber any ideas to increase her water intake. Worst case scenario is she'll fuck up her electrolytes. Her kidneys are working hard enough as it is.

 

[chicken wings]

I really think at almost 600 lbs, diet soda is the least of her worries. Never understood why this has ever been a point of contention.

In the long run it will. She mentioned having headaches at one point when she was "trying again". Diet sodas can cause you to be addicted and headaches are a sign of withdrawals. Our girl already has enough trouble staying away from comfort food as it is. Clock keeps ticking, our girl keeps eating.

 

[Bitchboy95]

In the long run it will. She mentioned having headaches at one point when she was "trying again". Diet sodas can cause you to be addicted and headaches are a sign of withdrawals. Our girl already has enough trouble staying away from comfort food as it is. Clock keeps ticking, our girl keeps eating.

In the long run? Haha. Yes, in the long run, I'm sure it will be diet soda that was AL's undoing.

 

[ADHD]

In the long run it will. She mentioned having headaches at one point when she was "trying again". Diet sodas can cause you to be addicted and headaches are a sign of withdrawals. Our girl already has enough trouble staying away from comfort food as it is. Clock keeps ticking, our girl keeps eating.

Are you sure that's not an addiction to caffeine? Caffeine withdrawal headaches are hell.

 

[Guardsman42]

Are you sure that's not an addiction to caffeine? Caffeine withdrawal headaches are hell.

This is my thought on that. Caffeine withdrawal can lead to migraines and audio issues like hearing ringing in your ears.

 

[ADHD]

This is my thought on that. Caffeine withdrawal can lead to migraines and audio issues like hearing ringing in your ears.

Yeah. If people go from caffeinated diet soda to just water, they're going to have caffeine withdrawal unless they get caffeine from another source.

 

[ADHD]

Lol when did she start using this phrase? I dont actually watch her shit, I just get a synopsis (and again thank you to the people who do watch her videos and report in, that is some front line shit) but I feel like she started using it around when she started Optavia and it's just become a meme. I mean it's a phenomenally cunty thing to say so I understand totally why people use it the way they do with her and I love it and find it amusing, but it's like, fuck dude where did even SHE hear it from? Why did she pick it up? Is it like a Trisha Paytas thing? It was always like a trashy phrase I think.

Either way, I love it. Never stop punctuating her speech with " , boo boo".

She's been using it since at least some time last year, I think, but like you, I have no idea why. Honey Boo Boo was cancelled years ago, and the girl herself isn't even called that anymore.

And she smugly claims those mash potatoes weren't a binge because they were "only" 500kcal. But isn't the primary characteristic of a binge the loss of control?

I'm pretty sure Amber's pig-out sessions are 1k+ calories, easily. Her meals certainly are. 500 calories is a snack for her.

 

[Damaged Goods]

I'm pretty sure Amber's pig-out sessions are 1k+ calories, easily. Her meals certainly are. 500 calories is a snack for her.

I know. But calories aren't a factor in whether something constitutes a binge or not. My point was that she doesn't even know the most basic aspect of a disorder she's been claiming to have for years.

 

[Birthday Dickpunch]

BED serves as an excuse because it puts her problem outside of her control. Amberlynn tries to say that she is following her calories goals, but binging a few times a week puts her way over. This is not possible if you do the maths, but Amberlynn likes the story because she victim instead of fat slob with no willpower.

It doesn't, though. It can be an excuse until you know (or "think", in this case) you have BED. Then it just becomes an explanation for your past behavior and you are fully responsible for treating the disorder you know you have. She can't even claim that she can't afford treatment, the way she throws her money around and shits on people who bring it up, and she lacks the introspective skills to manage it herself.

I suspect it's part of the reason she never sees a doctor long enough to get an actual diagnosis for any of her problems, whether she's consciously avoiding it for that reason or not. Until she does everyone is just "self-diagnosing" her and she easily dismisses any and all commentary about her health.

 

[THOTto]

I know. But calories aren't a factor in whether something constitutes a binge or not. My point was that she doesn't even know the most basic aspect of a disorder she's been claiming to have for years.

Spoiler: BED type sperging

What you’re discussing is objective versus subjective binge eating. Objective does have caloric amounts (5k-15k) and falls under the medical criteria for BED. Subjective doesn’t, it’s more common with mordibly obese patients who are missing one if not multiple criteria. What’s interesting is the emotional impact of both of these is quite similar, I’m not sure if they got rid of the caloric requirements themselves or not at this point as my interest has shifted elsewhere. But My understanding is subjective binge eaters while feeling some form of compulsion/out of control aspects tend to be steered more toward food addiction then traditional BED. There’s some really interesting studies out there nonetheless.

You are absolutely correct on the latter bit though. It’s just like her claims of knowing everything about nutrition, medications, health, writing, etc. Outside of maybe a basic online self test or googiling fast symptoms on wedMD or whatever she isn’t convincing. It’s why she can be debunked so quickly. It’s the same things with selfdx tumblrinas, they can’t process the severity factor. Let alone that even experts can’t self diagnose and it’s common with new med students to think they have rare ailments.

 

[ADHD]

Just asking this here since the conversation is already taking place and it's regarding a specific incident as opposed to general health speculation: If the calories aren't a factor in whether something is considered a binge, what makes the mashed potatoes a binge? She wasn't out of control. She took the time to film the fact that she knew she was going to be over her calorie limit and she was still choosing to eat them. That seems more a case of "Yeah I know I shouldn't do this but I don't care" than "I know I shouldn't do this but I can't stop myself".

 

[Hellion]

Just asking this here since the conversation is already taking place and it's regarding a specific incident as opposed to general health speculation: If the calories aren't a factor in whether something is considered a binge, what makes the mashed potatoes a binge? She wasn't out of control. She took the time to film the fact that she knew she was going to be over her calorie limit and she was still choosing to eat them. That seems more a case of "Yeah I know I shouldn't do this but I don't care" than "I know I shouldn't do this but I can't stop myself".

Without speculating if the potatoes counted as a binge or not, the ED charity, BEAT, says:

Binges may be planned like a ritual and can involve the person buying "special" binge foods, or they may be more spontaneous.

In AL's case, this could fit more with the Pringles/ramen/Ben and Jerry's she would buy to eat at night, but the general point is that a binge can involved pre-planning, even a lot of it.

 

[pecansandies]

Just asking this here since the conversation is already taking place and it's regarding a specific incident as opposed to general health speculation: If the calories aren't a factor in whether something is considered a binge, what makes the mashed potatoes a binge? She wasn't out of control. She took the time to film the fact that she knew she was going to be over her calorie limit and she was still choosing to eat them. That seems more a case of "Yeah I know I shouldn't do this but I don't care" than "I know I shouldn't do this but I can't stop myself".

this is a really good question and I think so many things are circumstantial to answer it properly that the best anyone can do here is speculate, so speculate I will. To me, that wilful ignorance of one's own goals, plans, health, etc may be vocalised as "I don't care" when in reality there is a degree of loss of control there. Because in theory if she could stop herself, she would. A person who says "I'm going to eat x amount of calories" and then say "okay if I eat this I'll be over the amount" but does it anyway for no real reason...to me it's not necessarily about the amount of calories - I think that's just splitting hairs. It's more about her relationship with food. She could have said no. She could have taken one bite and stopped, She could have not shelved her plans for a bowl of cheesy potatoes. But she didn't.

And when I consider the "why" it's like okay yes that immediately comes across as apathy or hedonism, but when I can't find any clear motivator for doing it, I think that there's a lack of control there.

I'm not gonna outright say she has BED. She likely does. The only thing I can say with any kind of confidence is that she has a really bad relationship with food. It might be an unwillingness to say no, it might be inability. But I think there's so much overlap between the two with her that if BOLTH questions are posed my answer would be "yes" lol

 

[Damaged Goods]

Well now I'm kinda sorry I brought it up. It was moved to the health speculation thread even though I didn't mean it to be speculative at all and apparently people are getting sick of hearing about it. Idk if this is going to be moved too but just to explain my reasoning for the comment I now regret, here goes. To my knowledge a binge involves first and foremost a sense of loss of control over one's food intake (which does NOT exclude the ability to plan a binge) and secondarily the consumption of an inordinate amount of food in a very short time. So what I was trying to say is that she either wanted to consume those mash potatoes, which she claims she did not, or she lost control, i.e. binged. So if she's saying she didn't mean to eat them, she can't also say that it wasn't a binge just because it's too few calories. I'll give it a rest now and sorry again for bringing it up

 

[WrenchWring]

I think her sleep apnea and general breathing trouble is literally making her retarded. Her brain isn't getting enough oxygen, especially during the night, and she's slowly becoming brain damaged.

 

[Guardsman42]

I think her sleep apnea and general breathing trouble is literally making her exceptional. Her brain isn't getting enough oxygen, especially during the night, and she's slowly becoming brain damaged.

People I think started saying that as a joke, but the scary fact is it can also be true.

As for hamber binging..she isn't. Stop fucking referring to it as such. She eats like this, daily. This is her normal pattern. A binge implies out of the ordinary. Do you think she got to be over 600 pounds by what, 'binging'? No. She's consuming 3x the amount of a healthy person on a daily basis. This isn't binging, this is her normal consumption.

I can't even fathom what a binge for Hamber would be any longer. She already is likely consuming 6k+ calories a day. I've seen numbers tossed around up to I think 10k to explain her weight gain. What the fuck do you binge on when you need 10k a day to maintain and gain weekly? 20k in one go? Just eat sticks of butter?

 

[Damaged Goods]

As for hamber binging..she isn't. Stop fucking referring to it as such.

Lol calm down. We weren't. I commented on something she said in her latest video and it was moved here. Nobody is saying she's binging. Everything's ok. As for what she considers a binge, it's been documented multiple times.

 

[Edith Puthy]

I think her sleep apnea and general breathing trouble is literally making her exceptional. Her brain isn't getting enough oxygen, especially during the night, and she's slowly becoming brain damaged.

It's called obesity hypoventilation syndrome.

 

[easyaf]

Chantal recently got some bloods done and came back as pre-diabetic with high bad cholesterol.; I refuse to believe Big Al doesn't have at least those.

I know a lot of mention is made of her beetus knuckles, but I genuinely believe that the darkness is just dirt at this point. She has already admitted to not being able to fit into the shower easily, and we see evidence of her unwashed state every time she uploads a video. It's obvious when she is clean from her hair alone - and it's not that often. I think if she really had full blown diabetes we would have seen much more serious results of that already with the way she eats. She already has whatever her leg thing is (nerve issues etc) and her disc problems in her back. Not to mention joint pain from hefting that amount of weight around.

I think she's close to major health disaster, but that nothing 'big' has happened yet. For someone her weight and lifestyle she's surprisingly free of anything but bulk related hardships so far. I think that's going to change though, very soon, She's been in an increasingly fast downward spiral for a while now.