Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

Take away the Guns, Censor the Video, Throw people in Jail for Having the Video, or do it all?

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  • Doesn't matter, it's Trump's Fault.

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  • Just ban the video, it's totally doable.

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According to "ANOnews" the "OK" hand sign now means "White Power". They're literally taking some 4chan /b/'s shitpost seriously now.
Adam Goldberg said:
Christchurch mosque attacker Brenton Harrison Tarrant said in his 73-page manifesto that he was seeking to use the media to instigate hysteria and division.
Even though he is now in police custody, he is continuing to use troll tactics to catch headlines and advance his agenda.
Appearing in court this Saturday to face his charges, Tarrant used his fingers to flash a new “white power” hand gesture. The gesture looks much like an upside down “ok gesture.
For months there has been controversy as to whether or not this was a hate symbol or just a troll used by Trump supporters.
Many media outlets and organizations like the Southern Poverty Law Center branded the symbol as a hate group gang sign symbolizing “white power,” but later investigation found that the symbol originated on 4Chan, and was intended to bait liberals into looking silly.
However, the symbol seems to have taken on a life of its own, as it has been used by actual white nationalists, who then have the plausible deniability to say that it was just an “ok” gesture if they are ever called on it.
This week, the Atlantic pointed out that the New Zealand attackers manifesto is basically an elaborate troll.
Significant portions of the manifesto appear to be an elaborate troll, written to prey on the mainstream media’s worst tendencies.
As the journalist, Robert Evans noted, “This manifesto is a trap … laid for journalists searching for the meaning behind this horrific crime. There is truth in there, and valuable clues to the shooter’s radicalization, but it is buried beneath a great deal of, for lack of a better word, ‘sh*tposting.’”
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The attacker’s hand gesture should certainly be taken with a grain of salt, but it also shows how the lines have been blurred between trolling and actual hate.
A hand gesture that started out as a simple troll, has now morphed into something that a terrorist flashes in court when he is being charged with homicide.
He did not request bail and was ordered to remain in custody until the date of his next hearing, scheduled for April 5. Police said more charges will be filed against him.
More news was also released on the attacker’s accomplices, and one of them was even a teenager. !8-year-old Daniel John Burrough was charged with ‘exciting hostility or ill-will.’
Meanwhile, two other men and one woman are in custody in relation to the attacks.
Tarrant’s relatives have reportedly been assisting the police in their investigation.

In a 74-page manifesto titled “The Great Replacement” that he posted online before the massacre, Tarrant says that he was inspired by the Anders Behring Breivik, the white nationalist attacker from Norway who took the lives of 77 people in 2011.
‘I have read the writings of Dylan Roof and many others, but only really took true inspiration from Knight Justiciar Breivik,’ he wrote in the manifesto.
Tarrant says that he has just been radicalized in the past few years, noting that a terrorist attack in Stockholm in 2017 sparked his transformation.
‘There was a period of time two years prior to the attack that dramatically changed my views. The period of time was from April 2017 to May 2017. The first event that begun the change was the terror attack in Stockholm on 7 April 2017. That difference was Ebba Akerlund… Ebba was walking to meet her mother after school when she was murdered by an Islamic attacker. I could no longer turn my back on the violence. Something this time was different. I am unsure as of this time of writing whether I will reach that target, it is a bonus objective,” he wrote.
Tarrant’s manifesto was steeped in the “white genocide” narrative, which insists that white people are being oppressed and that they will be replaced by darker skin cultures if races mix and intermarry.
‘To most of all show the invaders that our lands will never be their lands, our homelands are our own and that, as long as a white man still lives, they will NEVER conquer our lands, and they will never replace our people,” he wrote.
Tarrant also admitted that his actions could be considered a terrorist attack, but he said that he sees at as more of an act of war, in defense of a foreign invader.
“By the definition, then yes. It is a terrorist attack. But I believe it is a partisan action against an occupying force,” the manifesto said.


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He didn't want to look incompetent because he wanted to accelerate the narrative. If he had killed two people and gotten cucked by a prayer mat or something we would be calling him a sped. Higher kill count means more revolution and more gravity to the deed.

This is why I don't leave my house anymore ever. My neetcave is a safespace.

But in all seriousness, things are reaching a boiling point. How many more attacks do you think it will take before the lid blows off?

No idea, my guy. Could be the next one, could be never.
 
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I won't deny there may have been a kernel of truth mixed with all the bullshit in that lunatic's manifesto, but ultimately he wanted to and succeeded in causing a shitstorm.

Even if it was meant as a demented wake up call, it's having the direct opposite effect of getting any real problems addressed.

Yes, he's right, there are a lot of Muslim extremists getting a shitload of leeway in this world that shouldn't, and it's disturbing, but cold blooded murder is the last way to get me to sympathize with any legitimate arguments he may have.

He didn't want to encourage people to have debates about this shit, no he wanted similar events to take place from all sides. This guy sent a loud message, better than any politician could.
I don't think you understood his motive, Muslim extremists committing crime aren't the problem. Muslims coming into white majority countries are the problem.
 
Even if it was meant as a demented wake up call, it's having the direct opposite effect of getting any real problems addressed.

He doesn't want problems addressed. He wants them exacerbated so they get bad enough that radical action is forced that results in a fascist regime, presumably after some sort of race war.
 
He didn't want to encourage people to have debates about this shit, no he wanted similar events to take place from all sides. This guy sent a loud message, better than any politician could.
I don't think you understood his motive, Muslim extremists committing crime aren't the problem. Muslims coming into white majority countries are the problem.

Point duly noted.

Now that I've vented my emotions, I can't deny he sent a loud and very clear message there are lots of people like him willing to kill who they see as invaders, and that such a threat is not something to blow off or take lightly.

Anyone who plugs their ears and tries to tune it out is welcoming their own destruction sooner or later.
 
I say it because the only reason I have a job is because I am a violent asshole. Look up the article called "Violence is Golden." The only reason we live in peace is because people like you pay taxes so the government can pay people like me to violently repress criminality.

In all fairness, we have a functionally peaceful society thanks in part to the knowledge that crazy assholes exist, like the guy who trapped and raped his would-be burglars in his house over the course of a week or so until his neighbor reported him for the screams.

You at once give yourself too much and too little credit.

Agreed, violence is an innate part of our nature, only a fool would deny it.

However, let's not forget one thing: This asshole did this to attention whore.

By doing so, he has cheapened the very point he was trying to make. If this was done in utter seriousness, minus the memes and other bullshit, I might be able to take his message a little more seriously, brutal as it may be.

Instead, it's quite obvious this asshole killed people as much as for his own jollies as he did it to make a political point.

This example of a dismissive attitude is exactly what this asshole was preying upon. "He cheapened his message", "If this was done but minus the memes", it's all what this faggot wanted.

I don't blame you for wanting to feel that way, I really don't. However, you're falling into exactly the plan this hopped-up asshole wanted you to by doing so, and I would rather people look beyond this guy's shooting and into his motivations.

The pot is getting close to exploding and making a hell of a mess once the lid slides completely off, this assbag just gave the world a chilling foretaste of that, and that is a valuable lesson I can take from this: We do need to address what reasons made Tarrant's attention whoring by mass murder so attractive before MORE like this heartless murderer do this shit again.
He didn't want to encourage people to have debates about this shit, no he wanted similar events to take place from all sides. This guy sent a loud message, better than any politician could.
I don't think you understood his motive, Muslim extremists committing crime aren't the problem. Muslims coming into white majority countries are the problem.

Both of these takes are unbelievably myopic and playing into what this guy wanted.

He was looking for people to keep talking around the problem, and to keep talking about the symptoms. You're playing right into his hand for doing so.

Point duly noted.

Now that I've vented my emotions, I can't deny he sent a loud and very clear message there are lots of people like him willing to kill who they see as invaders, and that such a threat is not something to blow off or take lightly.

Anyone who plugs their ears and tries to tune it out is welcoming their own destruction sooner or later.

It's apparently being an edgelord if you point that out, nowadays.
 
Long story short I was a part of a training exercise immediately after the Dallas killings of those cops back in 2015. We were testing the potential effects of a coordinated attack of 6 individuals on a similar BLM march as a reprisal killing. The attackers had 2 trucks, one driver each, 2 each in the bed of the pickup, prone, with rifles and thousands of rounds of ammo. Even though we knew an attack was coming, OPFOR was able to cause over 200 casualties, including a dozen officers, in less than 5 minutes and flee the scene without being immediately apprehended or neutralized.
And that's assuming conventional tactics like trucks and rifles. Poisons, toxins, and explosives are (un?)surprisingly easy to come by. What do we do when one of these big-brained speds has a degree in bio-chem?
 
I read something by William S. Burroughs a long time ago, that posited a shared theory (with Gysin, iirc), which describes words as thought viruses, transmitted through speech & media, and often created and/or used by the agents of control.

Taking it further; ideas and causes are varying forms of thought-disease or syndromes; with information being the DNA.
Which can, of course, easily mutate from benign to extremely malignant.

My opinion is that they were right, and predicted memes as they've become.

Can you tell me the name of the work/theory/where I can read or buy it? That looks really interesting.
 
Both of these takes are unbelievably myopic and playing into what this guy wanted.

He was looking for people to keep talking around the problem, and to keep talking about the symptoms. You're playing right into his hand for doing so.
Again, he didn't want people talking period, he wants them shooting each other. Maybe molymeme was rite when he said: there are no more arguments to be made.
But I am interested: What is the problem in your opinion?
 
Nobody that I've seen in this thread since page 24 has made any kind of boast about how non-traumatizing the video was. You're being a faggot.
Well that's pretty much what the guy I was responding to was doing, but you're right it's an exception in this thread and I was angery about reading that kind of bullshit on reddit I guess.
It doesn't resonate with you because you are not his target demographic. Right now, as we're talking about the logistics of autists shooting muslims, there are MILLIONS of military-aged-males on both sides that are ratcheting closer to doing the exact same thing at an AOC rally or Patriot Prayer march. It will happen, full stop. When it becomes not uncommon, they will start to coordinate, that's when Law and Order loses. That's when America and the West loses.

Long story short I was a part of a training exercise immediately after the Dallas killings of those cops back in 2015. We were testing the potential effects of a coordinated attack of 6 individuals on a similar BLM march as a reprisal killing. The attackers had 2 trucks, one driver each, 2 each in the bed of the pickup, prone, with rifles and thousands of rounds of ammo. Even though we knew an attack was coming, OPFOR was able to cause over 200 casualties, including a dozen officers, in less than 5 minutes and flee the scene without being immediately apprehended or neutralized.

Point blank Western society is not prepared for coordinated mass shooting events. If these lone wolf attackers ever figure out how bad the odds are stacked against us and decide to carry out attacks in groups, we're fucked. we have a million LEOs in this country and we have no way of protecting the public.
Isn't it easier to stop a group before the fact though ? Like there's more communication involved and more chances that one guy does something stupid that attracts attention ?
 
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He doesn't want problems addressed. He wants them exacerbated so they get bad enough that radical action is forced that results in a fascist regime, presumably after some sort of race war.
He's trying to make the 2nd amendment abridged in the US so that we can have a day of the rope Ala the Turner Diaries. At like three points in the manifesto he states that as his goal and the reason for using guns in the attack.
 
What do we do when one of these big-brained speds has a degree in bio-chem?

Not much.

E.g., Bruce Ivins (or whoever actually did it).

He's trying to make the 2nd amendment abridged in the US so that we can have a day of the rope Ala the Turner Diaries. At like three points in the manifesto he states that as his goal and the reason for using guns in the attack.

He vastly overestimates how much Americans give a flying fuck about shit on the other side of the planet.
 
Now that I got all outrage out, it's pretty clear if Tarrant is just the first of many, there going to come a point where the desire to give a shit about consequences is going to squelched by the desire to solve problems through violence that do not seem to be solvable by any other means, and if the very people Tarrant was hoping to stir up keep doubling down, their bodies will fall besides more Muslims, innocent or otherwise, and I have to admit, in an objective sense, I can see Tarrant's point: If you kill enough people for doing X, it will likely terrify them into doing Y, if only so they don't wind up the next dead body.

What he's said, and it's quite true, is that he killed a bunch of Muslims to show he's just one of many who considers them parasites and is willing to kill them in protest of the politicians who keep importing them in defiance of public opinion. And, contrary to what they want to believe, there is a rising tide of people like Tarrant amongst the public who hates Muslim immigrants of any type enough to expel them, even if the means include murder.

Considering all the horrible shit like rape gangs and laws being bent to immunize Muslims against criminal penalties non Muslims are not exempt from in countries where these are known and still ongoing issues, and thus it follows if these issues are not addressed, Tarrant will get his wish and law and order will become a relic as mass murder becomes a preferred means of dissent against Muslims not being wanted.

This guy is basically the "14/88 RACE WAR NOW!" meme except he gave substance to that wish, and I agree with everyone in this thread that says trying to ignore that is utterly insane.
 
Again, he didn't want people talking period, he wants them shooting each other. Maybe molymeme was rite when he said: there are no more arguments to be made.
But I am interested: What is the problem in your opinion?

This was a very obviously lonely man who had no member of the rational public whom he felt comfortable sharing his thoughts with. Tying him in with milquetoast figureheads such as Molymeme is a disingenuous act at best.

That said, the problem is the lack of ability to simply discuss concerns that these people have without being social pariahs.

What he's said, and it's quite true, is that he killed a bunch of Muslims to show he's just one of many who considers them parasites and is willing to kill them in protest of the politicians who keep importing them in defiance of public opinion. And, contrary to what they want to believe, there is a rising tide of people like Tarrant amongst the public who hates Muslim immigrants of any type enough to expel them, even if the means include murder.

Considering all the horrible shit like rape gangs and laws being bent to immunize Muslims against criminal penalties non Muslims are not exempt from in countries where these are known and still ongoing issues, and thus it follows if these issues are not addressed, Tarrant will get his wish and law and order will become a relic as mass murder becomes a preferred means of dissent against Muslims not being wanted.

I'll straight-up admit I felt nothing but apathy at the news. As a man who has nieces who live in such neighborhoods, yeah I'm concerned.

The problem with Tarrant is that he's such a dipshit as to think that nobody acts upon the problem simply because to do so is illegal, or that to comment on it is some kind of societal drawback.

Keeping societal problems under some kind of lid does nothing but foment hatred. Anyone who isn't some out-of-touch ivory-tower dipshit knows this.

This guy is basically the "14/88 RACE WAR NOW!" meme except he gave substance to that wish, and I agree with everyone in this thread that says trying to ignore that is utterly insane.

It's a grave and terrible crime to ignore the pleas of a beleaguered populace. Even more so if you were voted to represent them.
 
I know this compression for some of us is stupid,but i think this shitty situation,it reminds me of Miami mutilator's case from Hotline Miami 2,beacause Manny Pardo a.k.a thick skin guy and Brenton Tarrant are attention seekers,have a small friction of fans and admiration and their lifes are influences by their important idol(For Pardo is Jacket,the main character on HM series and for Brenton is anyone who fought against Islam).
 
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I know this compression for some of us is stupid,but i think this shitty situation,it reminds me of Miami mutilator's case from Hotline Miami 2,beacause Manny Pardo a.k.a thick skin guy and Brenton Tarrant are attention seekers,have a small friction of fans and admiration and their lifes are influences by their important idol(For Pardo is Jacket,the main character on HM series and for Brenton is anyone who fought against Islam).

Are you Squatch Gaming Official?

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This was a very obviously lonely man who had no member of the rational public whom he felt comfortable sharing his thoughts with. Tying him in with milquetoast figureheads such as Molymeme is a disingenuous act at best.

That said, the problem is the lack of ability to simply discuss concerns that these people have without being social pariahs.
Because big-brained discussions can change political realities and even if it were the case it is questionable whether we have enough time with the current demographic trends. It's pretty obvious that western democracies are not as democratic as they think they are.

At this point, you are left with 2 options to change the situation: the subversive option (better) and the hostile option.
His move wasn't that big-brained either, but the current strategy clearly isn't working.
 
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