Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

[Secret Asshole]

Now that the faggotry has abated, I'll thrown in my take.

I think we've witnessed the first mass shooting based on complete and utter nihilism. You can call him evil, because that's what the goal was. You can't call him crazy, because he knew exactly what he was doing. I say this was a shooting of nihilism because there is no one real ideology here he's rooting for. He absolutely knew what he was about to do would call for more censorship, silence more speech and hurt the side the media thinks he's on far more than it ever would do anything. He gave the media exactly what it was craving, more meat for the meat grinder. He knew they'd push hard against the other side. He expected and predicted this outcome.

He's for nothing but more conflict, more death, more suppression for the sake of his own entertainment. You're looking at a pure sociopath at work. He had no other goals other than to hammer a wedge deeper between people, increase tribalism and radicalize both sides further to a breaking point. For him, this was taking too long so he expedited the process. He didn't off himself precisely because he wants to see the outcome of his work. He wants to see blood in the streets, he wants to read the papers. He wants the trial to be a pure shit show.

And that's exactly what he is going to get. He's going to use that trial to make this situation even worse. He's going to do anything he can to inflame conflict even more. This guy wasn't 'radicalized'. He was a born sociopath who got bored and felt he could basically push the world closer to the brink and knew exactly how to do it. Like I said, his choice of victims, his own race, his manifesto, everything was crafted to make this situation even worse. The fact he fucking succeeded is shocking to me (granted, the police taking 10 minutes to respond to a mass shooting didn't fucking help) but I guess this shit was inevitable. Some sociopath could see how to make things worse and do it. I guess it didn't happen in the states because you're more likely to get shot the fuck up by LEOs or armed citizens before you got this far. And even if you did survive, you'd be thrown in a deep, dark hole for the rest of your life so you couldn't see the results of your 'work'.

I don't believe for a second the shit he espouses regarding Muslims. They were on his hit-list for the reaction only. He doesn't care about any of this white nationalist shit, its all a fucking show. He wants to burn everything down and dance in the fucking ashes.

In terms of his motivation, its one of the more monstrous things I've witnessed. I can understand jihadists, ethnic killings and even genocidal purges. Humans are xenophobic by nature, in the past we didn't move more than 20 miles from our homes in our lifetimes, if that. Anyone from the outside was a potential threat, so we naturally form tribes. He's a member of no tribe, cares about nothing.

His motives are more akin to a serial killer than anything else. Murder for his own pleasure, and the pleasure of doing harm to other people. Like I said, a pure sociopath. Everything else is just window dressing, bait for pushing both sides to the breaking point. The problem is, we've all been tribalized. And the instinct to defend your tribe is strong. So that's going to get lost in this whole mess.

The fact is that he's a serial killer at heart. Murder for its own sake and to hurt as many people as possible. He gains pleasure for every bit of dissent he sows. The worst thing is, he's already won. He pretty much won before he started. He knew the climate insanely well and played it like a fiddle. You think we couldn't have logical debate before? Try now. He made himself the media's worst 'fears' and their biggest profit maker. This will be exploited for profit, milked and used as a political bludgeon. His intent was to weaponize this act for his own amusement and he did it. If he even had a modicum of care, he knew this wouldn't help anything or anyone. He fucking knew it. That's why I say he's more like a serial killer than anything else. The only thing we can do is spite him. Hold his trial in secret. Throw him in solitary for the rest of his life. Let him see none of the things that have come out of this. Let him go so mental he bashes his own skull in on the walls of his cell so he has something to do. But we all know this won't happen.

There's no real ideology behind this. That's the stage play, the big lie. This is serial mass murder for an individual's pleasure and to cause as much harm to other people as possible. He set his stage, now he gets to watch his show. And we're all the fucking puppets of this psychopath.

 

[Titty Figurine]

And the copycat paranoia begins.

 

[Broseph Stalin]

I know this compression for some of us is stupid,but i think this shitty situation,it reminds me of Miami mutilator's case from Hotline Miami 2,beacause Manny Pardo a.k.a thick skin guy and Brenton Tarrant are attention seekers,have a small friction of fans and admiration and their lifes are influences by their important idol(For Pardo is Jacket,the main character on HM series and for Brenton is anyone who fought against Islam).

Hotline Miami - The Miami Mutilator

On top of the rest of the craziness of Hotline Miami, there's a serial killer going around Miami mutilating people. However, the Miami Police Department has ...

www.youtube.com

Nigger did you join just to say that?

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

I read something by William S. Burroughs a long time ago, that posited a shared theory (with Gysin, iirc), which describes words as thought viruses, transmitted through speech & media, and often created and/or used by the agents of control.

Taking it further; ideas and causes are varying forms of thought-disease or syndromes; with information being the DNA.
Which can, of course, easily mutate from benign to extremely malignant.

My opinion is that they were right, and predicted memes as they've become.

Yeah, the thought virus idea went through most of Burroughs's work. I think Dawkins's The Selfish Gene makes a very compelling argument comparing ideas to living things, viruses basically. It's where "meme" came from in our language. His argument basically breaks down what a living thing is, genetically speaking, and uses the same basic description to compare to everything from the basic brainworm to ideologies like Christianity or socialism. The whole thing is well argued, and it is almost tautologically true, as he lays it out.

 

[Ma_Hooty]

The point that I'm well aware you were making in this post btw, I want to reiterate: If these people are open about it, at least we know who's at risk for violent action.

The thing is that there are people that have openly talked about violent threats and actions and people have reported them - many times in some cases - it's the authorities/social media moderators who don't care or are too lazy to follow-up the fact that,
"Hey, we've been getting a lot of reports about this guy's account making concerning posts, maybe we should check to see if this could be a legit problem in the future."

But they don't and whatever excuse - lack of resources to lack of foresight - isn't enough for the families of the dead. I don't know if it's been reported and I haven't been able to keep up with the speed of the thread, but I wouldn't be surprised if this guy was already known for posting online threats.

Some people are accustomed to the intrinsic brutality and ugliness of man. Calling such people "edgelords" is pretty rich considering actual edgelords have a bafflingly less complicated view of the shooting.
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It's not that bad. Faggots who are LARPing as PTSD victims here are exactly that: faggots. If you've never seen someone die you might want to read my previous post about how coddled the modern first-world human is.
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Nobody that I've seen in this thread since page 24 has made any kind of boast about how non-traumatizing the video was. You're being a faggot.

So both those who do and don't think the livestream was a big deal in the violent category are faggots?

I've seen the brutality and ugliness of man, both on themselves as well as their furry companions (more so the latter...), but I'm not fluffing up my feathers and crowing about how bad/not bad seeing people getting murdered in real time is.
No one is going to high five you for saying you've seen worse.

I've become a numb bitch to some capacity in regards to death and violence, but I still find some things incredibly difficult to watch or be in the presence of. Sometimes I need to question what happens after because some people's replies are so baffling to read that I need to express it to make sure I didn't land in Wally World overnight.

Honestly, despite me saying "lol, look at this internet badass over here", I understand everyone is different with their opinions, especially after something as tragic as this; really, I'm just glad the Farms is a place where people can discuss controversial issues like this without outside repercussions.

I just hope we can mock the fucker instead of fearing or idolizing him with time, like all violent ideologues should be.

 

[OB 946]

Well that's pretty much what the guy I was responding to was doing, but you're right it's an exception in this thread and I was angery about reading that kind of bullshit on reddit I guess.

Isn't it easier to stop a group before the fact though ? Like there's more communication involved and more chances that one guy does something stupid that attracts attention ?

Yeah it's easier to stop, which is what has prevented these attacks so far, but because of the rapid unpersoning of anything right of Marx, the feds are having extreme difficulty tracking these new guys. It's an arms race between covert communications and HUMINT and SIGINT and right now law enforcement is just barely staying caught up. If the big services deperson the rest of the "alt-right" right now, like it looks, it will tip the balance. Reminder that the FBI was asking fucking Steven Crowder how they inflitrated Antifa's communications, which was literally an app on the app store.

 

[yoke]

interesting side note, youtube has intentionally broken their search features in an effort to stop the christchurch video re-uploads from being found. they disabled sorting by upload time for the whole site as far as i can tell. i noticed it yesterday and suspected it was related to the shooting considering some of the conversation going around in journo twitter. they confirmed it on the youtube subreddit a couple hours ago.

r/youtube links:

Attention Required!

Attention Required!

they are disabling basic search functionality to censor legal content.

 

[Arvo Pohja]

This shit is making us all paranoid.

 

[CIA Nigger]

Now that the faggotry has abated, I'll thrown in my take.

I think we've witnessed the first mass shooting based on complete and utter nihilism. You can call him evil, because that's what the goal was. You can't call him crazy, because he knew exactly what he was doing. I say this was a shooting of nihilism because there is no one real ideology here he's rooting for. He absolutely knew what he was about to do would call for more censorship, silence more speech and hurt the side the media thinks he's on far more than it ever would do anything. He gave the media exactly what it was craving, more meat for the meat grinder. He knew they'd push hard against the other side. He expected and predicted this outcome.

He's for nothing but more conflict, more death, more suppression for the sake of his own entertainment. You're looking at a pure sociopath at work. He had no other goals other than to hammer a wedge deeper between people, increase tribalism and radicalize both sides further to a breaking point. For him, this was taking too long so he expedited the process. He didn't off himself precisely because he wants to see the outcome of his work. He wants to see blood in the streets, he wants to read the papers. He wants the trial to be a pure shit show.

And that's exactly what he is going to get. He's going to use that trial to make this situation even worse. He's going to do anything he can to inflame conflict even more. This guy wasn't 'radicalized'. He was a born sociopath who got bored and felt he could basically push the world closer to the brink and knew exactly how to do it. Like I said, his choice of victims, his own race, his manifesto, everything was crafted to make this situation even worse. The fact he fucking succeeded is shocking to me (granted, the police taking 10 minutes to respond to a mass shooting didn't fucking help) but I guess this shit was inevitable. Some sociopath could see how to make things worse and do it. I guess it didn't happen in the states because you're more likely to get shot the fuck up by LEOs or armed citizens before you got this far. And even if you did survive, you'd be thrown in a deep, dark hole for the rest of your life so you couldn't see the results of your 'work'.

I don't believe for a second the shit he espouses regarding Muslims. They were on his hit-list for the reaction only. He doesn't care about any of this white nationalist shit, its all a fucking show. He wants to burn everything down and dance in the fucking ashes.

In terms of his motivation, its one of the more monstrous things I've witnessed. I can understand jihadists, ethnic killings and even genocidal purges. Humans are xenophobic by nature, in the past we didn't move more than 20 miles from our homes in our lifetimes, if that. Anyone from the outside was a potential threat, so we naturally form tribes. He's a member of no tribe, cares about nothing.

His motives are more akin to a serial killer than anything else. Murder for his own pleasure, and the pleasure of doing harm to other people. Like I said, a pure sociopath. Everything else is just window dressing, bait for pushing both sides to the breaking point. The problem is, we've all been tribalized. And the instinct to defend your tribe is strong. So that's going to get lost in this whole mess.

The fact is that he's a serial killer at heart. Murder for its own sake and to hurt as many people as possible. He gains pleasure for every bit of dissent he sows. The worst thing is, he's already won. He pretty much won before he started. He knew the climate insanely well and played it like a fiddle. You think we couldn't have logical debate before? Try now. He made himself the media's worst 'fears' and their biggest profit maker. This will be exploited for profit, milked and used as a political bludgeon. His intent was to weaponize this act for his own amusement and he did it. If he even had a modicum of care, he knew this wouldn't help anything or anyone. He fucking knew it. That's why I say he's more like a serial killer than anything else. The only thing we can do is spite him. Hold his trial in secret. Throw him in solitary for the rest of his life. Let him see none of the things that have come out of this. Let him go so mental he bashes his own skull in on the walls of his cell so he has something to do. But we all know this won't happen.

There's no real ideology behind this. That's the stage play, the big lie. This is serial mass murder for an individual's pleasure and to cause as much harm to other people as possible. He set his stage, now he gets to watch his show. And we're all the fucking puppets of this psychopath.

A lot of mass shootings, especially Columbine and all the people influenced by Eric and Dylan were far more nihilistic than this. Eric Harris in particular wanted to kill as many people as possible, blow cities up, and even hijack planes and crash them into NYC just to cause destruction, chaos, and riots. Elliot Rodger also had delusions of starting as much shit as possible as well.

This was more or less classic terrorism mixed in with the shooter having the background of being a channer. Considering how he's racked up sympathizers across the internet unlike a lot of mass shooters who only get mocked or condemned, this is very different.

 

[AStupidMonkey]

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I dunno. He sure waited a long time to out himself as a sociopath. No priors. Not on any watch-lists. Just an internet shitlord.

Usually, people like you're describing have a history of violent outbursts or torturing animals or whatever. Do we have anything to corroborate this? Maybe more info will come out.

I agree that the whole "look at me! I'm a proud Norse descendant of Odin!" angle seems like just another dank meme. But I don't doubt for a second that he's a legit racist who wanted to bag himself some muzzies. Especially given the timing.

 

[awoo]

I read something by William S. Burroughs a long time ago, that posited a shared theory (with Gysin, iirc), which describes words as thought viruses, transmitted through speech & media, and often created and/or used by the agents of control.

Taking it further; ideas and causes are varying forms of thought-disease or syndromes; with information being the DNA.
Which can, of course, easily mutate from benign to extremely malignant.

My opinion is that they were right, and predicted memes as they've become.

Richard Dawkins (neckbeard jesus) says the same thing in his book The Selfish Gene in which he coins the word "meme".

I was in the mood for some music and the description of the "SERBIA STRONG" video is interesting

БОГ ЈЕ СРБИН И ОН ЋЕ НАС ЧУВАТИ
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Our thoughts are with the victims of the terrorist attack in New Zealand. This song is not about, nor does it condone killing innocent people. It was made a moral boosting song for Serbs during the civil war in the former Yugoslavia. Hundreds of similar songs were made by all sides and this one is nothing special - this channel has an equal amount of videos made by muslims as made by christians! It's sad that it ended up on a sick and twisted mans playlist.

Since the attack, the singer of the song has done an interview a Serbian newspaper:
https://bit.ly/2F5fsp8

Here is some of what he had to say:
"It is terrible what that guy did in NZ, of course that I condemn that act and I feel sorry for all those innocent people. But he started killing and he would do that no matter what song he listened to.

The song was recorded in war, 1993, and it was done so that we give a moral support to our army. We sung, we didn't slaughter and kill. And yes, I saw all those stupidities on internet, how Chinese sing it, these and those. You see, I sang it and I am not ashamed of that song, but now they use it to condemn whole serbian people. What that song has to do with the terrorist attack? He decided to do it and he would have done it should he listened to serbian, chinese or some third song...

Of course I feel threatened. Its not like its not important, and as soon as this happened, I informed people who are close to me about what happened. We will see what will happen, will the police now knock on my door. I do not know. It's terrible all this."

Asked if he still sings, Zeljko said: " I can sometimes sing, but at weddings, and by no means nationalistic songs. I make my living that way, and from a little cattle-breeding and so on. I'm pushing somehow"

Željko objasnio kako je zaista nastala njegova pesma uz koju je Tarant počinio pokolj na Novom Zelandu!

Željka smo zatekli kod kuće u rodnom Plavnu, pokraj Knina. Ovaj Krajišnik za „Alo!“ objašnjava kako je pesma nastala, kao i to kako reaguje kada je čuje u raznim verzijama na internetu

web.archive.org

The youtube comments are crazy

 

[Dracula's Spirit Animal]

Now that the faggotry has abated, I'll thrown in my take.

I think we've witnessed the first mass shooting based on complete and utter nihilism. You can call him evil, because that's what the goal was. You can't call him crazy, because he knew exactly what he was doing. I say this was a shooting of nihilism because there is no one real ideology here he's rooting for. He absolutely knew what he was about to do would call for more censorship, silence more speech and hurt the side the media thinks he's on far more than it ever would do anything. He gave the media exactly what it was craving, more meat for the meat grinder. He knew they'd push hard against the other side. He expected and predicted this outcome.

He's for nothing but more conflict, more death, more suppression for the sake of his own entertainment. You're looking at a pure sociopath at work. He had no other goals other than to hammer a wedge deeper between people, increase tribalism and radicalize both sides further to a breaking point. For him, this was taking too long so he expedited the process. He didn't off himself precisely because he wants to see the outcome of his work. He wants to see blood in the streets, he wants to read the papers. He wants the trial to be a pure shit show.

And that's exactly what he is going to get. He's going to use that trial to make this situation even worse. He's going to do anything he can to inflame conflict even more. This guy wasn't 'radicalized'. He was a born sociopath who got bored and felt he could basically push the world closer to the brink and knew exactly how to do it. Like I said, his choice of victims, his own race, his manifesto, everything was crafted to make this situation even worse. The fact he fucking succeeded is shocking to me (granted, the police taking 10 minutes to respond to a mass shooting didn't fucking help) but I guess this shit was inevitable. Some sociopath could see how to make things worse and do it. I guess it didn't happen in the states because you're more likely to get shot the fuck up by LEOs or armed citizens before you got this far. And even if you did survive, you'd be thrown in a deep, dark hole for the rest of your life so you couldn't see the results of your 'work'.

I don't believe for a second the shit he espouses regarding Muslims. They were on his hit-list for the reaction only. He doesn't care about any of this white nationalist shit, its all a fucking show. He wants to burn everything down and dance in the fucking ashes.

In terms of his motivation, its one of the more monstrous things I've witnessed. I can understand jihadists, ethnic killings and even genocidal purges. Humans are xenophobic by nature, in the past we didn't move more than 20 miles from our homes in our lifetimes, if that. Anyone from the outside was a potential threat, so we naturally form tribes. He's a member of no tribe, cares about nothing.

His motives are more akin to a serial killer than anything else. Murder for his own pleasure, and the pleasure of doing harm to other people. Like I said, a pure sociopath. Everything else is just window dressing, bait for pushing both sides to the breaking point. The problem is, we've all been tribalized. And the instinct to defend your tribe is strong. So that's going to get lost in this whole mess.

The fact is that he's a serial killer at heart. Murder for its own sake and to hurt as many people as possible. He gains pleasure for every bit of dissent he sows. The worst thing is, he's already won. He pretty much won before he started. He knew the climate insanely well and played it like a fiddle. You think we couldn't have logical debate before? Try now. He made himself the media's worst 'fears' and their biggest profit maker. This will be exploited for profit, milked and used as a political bludgeon. His intent was to weaponize this act for his own amusement and he did it. If he even had a modicum of care, he knew this wouldn't help anything or anyone. He fucking knew it. That's why I say he's more like a serial killer than anything else. The only thing we can do is spite him. Hold his trial in secret. Throw him in solitary for the rest of his life. Let him see none of the things that have come out of this. Let him go so mental he bashes his own skull in on the walls of his cell so he has something to do. But we all know this won't happen.

There's no real ideology behind this. That's the stage play, the big lie. This is serial mass murder for an individual's pleasure and to cause as much harm to other people as possible. He set his stage, now he gets to watch his show. And we're all the fucking puppets of this psychopath.

I don't buy that interpretation at all. He very clearly had a goal, stated it openly, and set out to achieve his objective. It wasn't for the lulz in any sense.

It's exactly what the Unabomber intended. First couple of paragraphs into the Unabomber Manifesto:

2. The industrial-technological system may survive or it may break down. If it survives, it MAY eventually achieve a low level of physical and psychological suffering, but only after passing through a long and very painful period of adjustment and only at the cost of permanently reducing human beings and many other living organisms to engineered products and mere cogs in the social machine. Furthermore, if the system survives, the consequences will be inevitable: There is no way of reforming or modifying the system so as to prevent it from depriving people of dignity and autonomy.

3. If the system breaks down the consequences will still be very painful. But the bigger the system grows the more disastrous the results of its breakdown will be, so if it is to break down it had best break down sooner rather than later.

4. We therefore advocate a revolution against the industrial system. This revolution may or may not make use of violence; it may be sudden or it may be a relatively gradual process spanning a few decades. We can’t predict any of that. But we do outline in a very general way the measures that those who hate the industrial system should take in order to prepare the way for a revolution against that form of society. This is not to be a POLITICAL revolution. Its object will be to overthrow not governments but the economic and technological basis of the present society.

 

[Varg Did Nothing Wrong]

Oh yes, absolutely. Along with every round expended on everyone else.

I wasn't speaking towards his base crime, which is well established.

I was referring to the ROE not only instilled in us; but also those innate to myself, along with anyone still posessing a spark of love & empathy for people in general.

In reference to his motivations, you're right.

Speaking as a former grunt who was married to Ma Deuce; no round is wasted, even if it doesn't have an immediate or visible target.
"When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic."

However, he did not have an MG; he had shotguns and semi-auto carbines (in apparently rifle calibers), and he had no reason to issue suppressing fire after the initial entry.

Therefore; by wasting rounds on individuals who were either dead, dying, or incapacitated, Tardant was hampering his own success.

OK we get it you were in the military

Shut the fuck up and stop powerleveling you retard sperg nobody cares.

 

[Red Hands]

Found Eggboys twitter through his video response to what happened lol

 

[BrunoMattei]

Did the POL-tards leave? I keep checking this thread for maybe actual news? Has there been anything on the other shooters?

 

[Mola Ram]

Did the POL-tards leave? I keep checking this thread for maybe actual news? Has there been anything on the other shooters?

No other shooters. One guy had gone home to get a rifle for self defense and I think some poor shmuck just happened to be in camo, but Tarrant acted alone.

 

[Wrappedinplastic]

Found Eggboys twitter through his video response to what happened lol

Day after a mass murder this kid films himself attacking someone and gets praised. GG.

 

[NotoriousD]

Fuck's sake this thread blew up faster than I could've imagined it would. No, seriously I'm getting new posts to view every two minutes here while typing. While I catch up:

May I ask why anyone would want to see this video? That's totally sick.

I rated your post thoughtful because I believe yes, it is a valid question to ask and one I was asked while in the process of actually watching the video, and it bears explanation I suppose.

There are several reasons I could just vomit out, but the two most relevant to me are:

1. A sort of vile fascination with this type of violence that humans have at their cores. It's kind of like that trainwreck metaphor. It's horrifying to watch, but for some indescribable reason you just can't look away. Before I knew it, I found myself trying to analyze how he carried his actions out. Observing them from an outsider's point of view.

2. This is the more important of the two to me. I've always considered information important, and information exists in many different forms. Word of mouth isn't always falsehood, and sometimes it's good to have a sort of firsthand account of situations, especially when those situations are blanket censored for one reason or another. Anyone here can attest to this, few get it completely right when they recount events that they didn't witness, and fewer still who actively seek to use events as a scapegoat for an agenda. I hate to say this, but the video of that stream is valuable information. It's literally as close as you can get to being right there to witness what transpired, you're practically looking through his eyes as he did it.

With that kind of information, you could easily keep yourself from being swayed by people who are, through ignorance or subterfuge, trying to tell you what happened and giving you an incorrect representation of said events. On a personal level, it's incredibly important. However, I'd have to say to try and go to the extreme of making people aware by spreading it around online just makes you look like a jackass(not you particularly, but I'm sure some people somewhere have that mindset).

 

[New_001]

Now that the faggotry has abated, I'll thrown in my take.

I think we've witnessed the first mass shooting based on complete and utter nihilism. You can call him evil, because that's what the goal was. You can't call him crazy, because he knew exactly what he was doing. I say this was a shooting of nihilism because there is no one real ideology here he's rooting for. He absolutely knew what he was about to do would call for more censorship, silence more speech and hurt the side the media thinks he's on far more than it ever would do anything. He gave the media exactly what it was craving, more meat for the meat grinder. He knew they'd push hard against the other side. He expected and predicted this outcome.

He's for nothing but more conflict, more death, more suppression for the sake of his own entertainment. You're looking at a pure sociopath at work. He had no other goals other than to hammer a wedge deeper between people, increase tribalism and radicalize both sides further to a breaking point. For him, this was taking too long so he expedited the process. He didn't off himself precisely because he wants to see the outcome of his work. He wants to see blood in the streets, he wants to read the papers. He wants the trial to be a pure shit show.

And that's exactly what he is going to get. He's going to use that trial to make this situation even worse. He's going to do anything he can to inflame conflict even more. This guy wasn't 'radicalized'. He was a born sociopath who got bored and felt he could basically push the world closer to the brink and knew exactly how to do it. Like I said, his choice of victims, his own race, his manifesto, everything was crafted to make this situation even worse. The fact he fucking succeeded is shocking to me (granted, the police taking 10 minutes to respond to a mass shooting didn't fucking help) but I guess this shit was inevitable. Some sociopath could see how to make things worse and do it. I guess it didn't happen in the states because you're more likely to get shot the fuck up by LEOs or armed citizens before you got this far. And even if you did survive, you'd be thrown in a deep, dark hole for the rest of your life so you couldn't see the results of your 'work'.

I don't believe for a second the shit he espouses regarding Muslims. They were on his hit-list for the reaction only. He doesn't care about any of this white nationalist shit, its all a fucking show. He wants to burn everything down and dance in the fucking ashes.

In terms of his motivation, its one of the more monstrous things I've witnessed. I can understand jihadists, ethnic killings and even genocidal purges. Humans are xenophobic by nature, in the past we didn't move more than 20 miles from our homes in our lifetimes, if that. Anyone from the outside was a potential threat, so we naturally form tribes. He's a member of no tribe, cares about nothing.

His motives are more akin to a serial killer than anything else. Murder for his own pleasure, and the pleasure of doing harm to other people. Like I said, a pure sociopath. Everything else is just window dressing, bait for pushing both sides to the breaking point. The problem is, we've all been tribalized. And the instinct to defend your tribe is strong. So that's going to get lost in this whole mess.

The fact is that he's a serial killer at heart. Murder for its own sake and to hurt as many people as possible. He gains pleasure for every bit of dissent he sows. The worst thing is, he's already won. He pretty much won before he started. He knew the climate insanely well and played it like a fiddle. You think we couldn't have logical debate before? Try now. He made himself the media's worst 'fears' and their biggest profit maker. This will be exploited for profit, milked and used as a political bludgeon. His intent was to weaponize this act for his own amusement and he did it. If he even had a modicum of care, he knew this wouldn't help anything or anyone. He fucking knew it. That's why I say he's more like a serial killer than anything else. The only thing we can do is spite him. Hold his trial in secret. Throw him in solitary for the rest of his life. Let him see none of the things that have come out of this. Let him go so mental he bashes his own skull in on the walls of his cell so he has something to do. But we all know this won't happen.

There's no real ideology behind this. That's the stage play, the big lie. This is serial mass murder for an individual's pleasure and to cause as much harm to other people as possible. He set his stage, now he gets to watch his show. And we're all the fucking puppets of this psychopath.

Honestly i could not agree with you more. Although i think you left out an important piece of the puzzle. I think it was for more than just himself. I think deep down a part of him also orchestrated the entire thing to entertain the internet. It was constructed and advertised in such a way as to give all of us a chance to watch. He was speaking to a very specific type of internet user when he formulated his plan. The meme's themselves were unnecessary if his only desire was to set people against each other.

He wanted to make sure people on 8pol and by extension other sites like it were watching him carry out his grand design. He wanted to make them apart of his work and give them references that they would understand and even laugh at. He knew that they would understand his intentions perfectly and that they would be left behind to watch as everything he dreamed of happening started to set itself in motion.

He didn't just set the stage. He picked his audience with care and purpose. While he sits in prison those individuals will sit back and watch the show unfold. He knew he wouldn't get to see it himself. He set this little party in motion for the benefit of those like him. He wanted to give everyone something to watch.

 

[Stunning and Brave]

Death count now at 50, more than the Orlando gay bar shooting.