2019-03-17 - New Zealand Police: "We would like to preserve any posts and technical data including IP addresses, email addresses etc"

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I think you fail to understand exactly what people are 'spazzing' about. They included that footer to try and prevent exactly what Null did- publicizing that they are trying to identify and investigate internet users from a forum. That makes everyone else the 'unintended recipient.' They don't want anyone to be able to reveal to the world what they say in an email; they are purposefully trying to chill free speech. They are not alone; those legal footers are used by many people, even lawyers, when they send ridiculous demand letters or 'requests' because they know there would be public backlash if they were discovered. Otherwise they could only include it when sending particular information; that said, if you don't want information revealed, you don't send it in an email to someone unless they agree beforehand to not share it. And you check that you're sending it to the right place.

I know that such notices have weight in the US- if you send someone something, you generally cannot control what they do with it (with the exception of national security letters as referenced earlier and possibly 'revenge porn'- a thorny issue that will eventually have to get sorted in court, I think). But I don't know if actual kiwi citizens have to kowtow to such general notices. I doubt it; I suspect the statute applies to physical goods and some bright mind decided to try and use it as a scare tactic because people wet their pants when they see statutes mentioned.
No. They didn’t include that specifically for this reason. It’s a standard footer that many organizations tailor to whatever specific application they need. The one I have on my exchange server is a disclaimer for ITAR and reads much the same.

It’s just a CYA disclaimer. Nothing else.
 
Maybe in some backwards ass nation that works. I think this guy is used to busting people for fapping in public, not international law or interwebz law. He was hoping Null would hear the word "police" shit his pants and give him admin privileges or some crap. Maybe he should have scrolled through the website a little more than just looking up nulls contact, would have saved him the energy of typing (and actually having to look up a law he could try and make sound official)
Plus he may have gotten a chuckle or two... They could use them over there while they literally tear themselves apart (trying to ban guns in a place which already have restrictive laws) buncha morons

Maybe that's about what happened. He skimmed the site, told his superior that there was no way this was gonna work, that this site as a whole should probably be browsed by anyone on the force needing help in profiling crazy people and pedos. Boss tells him to do it anyway cause it's REALLY SERIOUS and tearing their country apart. Our friend was left grumbling and hammering out that email. Giving a nonchalant response to Null's reply before going back to the Tommy Tooter tab he has open.

That's what I wanna imagine happened anyway.
 
buddy of mine got his discord account deleted for linking to the kiwi farms thread, be safe exceptional individuals
Thanks, mate. Specifically, was it the main shooter thread linked with "you can find the video here!" or was it just general discussion? I wonder how many levels of retardation the discord admins are on.
 
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Thanks, mate. Specifically, was it the main shooter thread linked with "you can find the video here!" or was it just general discussion? I wonder how many levels of exceptionalism the discord admins are on.
It's run by furries. And since it seems furries and high positions of power never mix well, I'm gonna say very retarded
 
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More like the media want to tell you what it says and not have it avaliable for you to fact check them. How many stories have we seen saying that the shooter supported Trump but totally ignore the 2nd part of his section about Trump. This is just the same as the "it's illegal for you to read these documents but we can and then tell you all about them".
This...we endlessly hear about brave patriotic muslim new zealanders charging him...chasing in there vehicles..and trying to protect children. And this man was a trump supporting bigot...None of that happened tho...except that one dude who walked towards him
 
No. They didn’t include that specifically for this reason. It’s a standard footer that many organizations tailor to whatever specific application they need. The one I have on my exchange server is a disclaimer for ITAR and reads much the same.

It’s just a CYA disclaimer. Nothing else.

Absolutely correct. It was appended to all parties in legal correspondence in case the idiot secretary transposed numbers when punching in fax numbers when I worked in a law office. There's nothing nefarious about it.
 
This is basically why I signed up, seeing that response to that goddamn faggot.
Signed up solely for the purpose of telling the NZ police to get fucked.
I had to sign up to say Based.
Look at all these new members! You should be proud, @Null .

No. Strolling onto someone's website, located in an entirely different country than yours and expecting the lead admin to hand over confidential info because you're with the popo requires balls of steel.
I suppose that's true. Speaking of balls, did you know that NZ is blaming the US for our supposed role in the shooting? (Archive)

I don't agree with everything Dear Feeder says---I'm a bleeding-heart libtard who thinks Orange Man Bad---but fuck NZ police & fuck their shithole country.
 
Over Twitter, people are saying that one of the first victims at the door of the mosque greeted Tarrant with "hello brother" immediately before being mowed down.

Don't see evidence of this on the video nor anywhere else, I'm not even hearing that someone heard this, just that it happened.

Anyone know?
 
Over Twitter, people are saying that one of the first victims at the door of the mosque greeted Tarrant with "hello brother" immediately before being mowed down.

Don't see evidence of this on the video nor anywhere else, I'm not even hearing that someone heard this, just that it happened.

Anyone know?

Saw the video, didn't see/hear anything like that, one more reason they want to get rid of it off the internet so disinfo like this can be spread to pull people's heartstrings.
 
inb4 all these new members are New Zealand detectives trying to plant dis-info and gather intelligence.

Give it a week before one of them posts "Hey brothers, I forgot where our secret compound for training the alt-right is, can someone PM me the address?".
 
I'm aware that if they look and ask the right places/people, they can find everyone that ever signed up in this site.

Lol no.

I just don't think they have the competence/time available.

If they really wanted to do a dragnet, trying to catch NZ people, they'd decide they can't get it from here, and instead just send a request to all the known compliant NZ ISPs they have contacts with already, give them the IP address(es) you'd connect to to sign up here, and get anyone from NZ (or at least those ISPs) who connected to here in the relevant time, then raid them and see if they had the contraband.

More likely, though, they'd just hit a couple of them and do a couple people to make examples.

They couldn't even do that if the people used a VPN. If you do use a VPN you should probably use a fairly well known high traffic one, because really obscure ones, even with better features, will serve to distinguish your traffic if nobody else uses them.

Over Twitter, people are saying that one of the first victims at the door of the mosque greeted Tarrant with "hello brother" immediately before being mowed down.

That's a pretty fucking unlikely way to greet someone pointing a fucking gun right at you.

These idiots should probably actually watch the video before making up shit about it.
 
This...we endlessly hear about brave patriotic muslim new zealanders charging him...chasing in there vehicles..and trying to protect children. And this man was a trump supporting bigot...None of that happened tho...except that one dude who walked towards him
Well do we actually have any footage of him at the second mosque? The only footage I am aware of is some vertical video shot by someone inside the mosque showing the aftermath including one or two bodies just outside as well as one man inside who appears to have been shot in the head.


Over Twitter, people are saying that one of the first victims at the door of the mosque greeted Tarrant with "hello brother" immediately before being mowed down.
Just before he unloads his shotgun at the two people in the doorway, you can definitely hear someone say something like "ello bruddah". Timestamp is roughly 6:36
 
Thanks, mate. Specifically, was it the main shooter thread linked with "you can find the video here!" or was it just general discussion? I wonder how many levels of exceptionalism the discord admins are on.
It's run by furries. And since it seems furries and high positions of power never mix well, I'm gonna say very exceptional

Came here to say this. It's run by leftist pedo furries. I'm not surprised.
 
Yes, I know it. I don't think this is common knowledge among the law force tho, since there are many examples of investigations ending in nothing because the police/detectives/whatever couldn't track or find the online suspects. I'm aware that if they look and ask the right places/people, they can find everyone that ever signed up in this site. I just don't think they have the competence/time available.
Well actually, once it hits https, they can't find shit. They can find people who grabbed the "kiwifarms.net" DNS entry, so only anyone who went to the site. Not necessarily if they signed up or posted or anything.
 
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