2019-03-17 - New Zealand Police: "We would like to preserve any posts and technical data including IP addresses, email addresses etc"

[Opiophile]

This whole thing has turned into a fucking circus. It's truly astonishing to me that people haven't yet learned that you cannot take down something that has been uploaded to the internet. Maybe by the next millennium they will have this shit all figured out. I am eagerly awaiting the next chapter of this hilarious tale.

 

[DuckSucker]

Didnt the guy say as much in his manifesto that this sort of stupid bullshit was EXACTLY what he wanted? Good job playing his hand, NZ. Gotta get it while the bodies are still warm.

 

[LU 010]

So there's an update about the guy who was arrested for uploading the video. He wasn't even given bail which is insane! It's not like he murdered someone. It doesn't say why they didn't give him bail so I wonder what bullshit reason they used.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/cr...charged-with-making-objectionable-publication

The other charge alleges an offence between March 8 and March 15, under the same Act, by making an objectionable publication showing a photograph of the mosque in Deans Avenue with the message "Target Acquired" and further chat messaging around inciting extreme violence.

Sounds like he had prior knowledge of the attack so he might be a co-conspirator of some kind. Would explain the no-bail thing if so.

 

[repentance]

So there's an update about the guy who was arrested for uploading the video. He wasn't even given bail which is insane! It's not like he murdered someone. It doesn't say why they didn't give him bail so I wonder what bullshit reason they used.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/cr...charged-with-making-objectionable-publication

The extent of the suppression orders is extremely disturbing and suggests that they are invoking national security/counter-terrorism laws.

If his previous behaviour was just him being an edgelord, then he's paying a very high price.

Sounds like he had prior knowledge of the attack so he might be a co-conspirator of some kind. Would explain the no-bail thing if so.

No bail thing is almost certainly them saying that they need time to investigate whether he had any connection to the attacks and want him remanded while that happens. It wouldn't fly under normal criminal law but normal due process goes out the window once counter-terrorism laws are invoked.

Suppression of the bail submission info is definitely curious. There's usually no reason to keep that info secret because it's boring shit like risk of flight and the like. You might want to keep it secret if you were opposing bail because you wanted to keep someone incommunicado, though.

His next appearance is by video link, which is also curious. They don't normally do that if there's a chance you'll be set free at that appearance.

 

[Recoil]

Calling the feckless cronies of an authoritatian government that have no power to threaten Null and no leverage to get him to turn over the records of innocent users do, indeed, deserve to be called faggots along with the tiny powerless island of New Zealand, as well as you. You fucking faggot.

If you're within your rights to act like a dick to these people it can be in your best interest to do so.

 

[CiaphasCain]

Can you spergs just stop shooting people? I don't want Kiwi Farms to get shutdown.

 

[High Speed Slavery]

Is it really illegal to own/share the NZ shooting video if you are living in the common wealth nations? A person I know had said that the video can be a kin to child porn and that it's valid to scrub this video from the internet the same way it'd be done with child porn(which I profusely disagreed with). Fuck man I don't want to go to jail for just being an archivist.

 

[repentance]

Is it really illegal to own/share the NZ shooting video if you are living in the common wealth nations? A person I know had said that the video can be a kin to child porn and that it's valid to scrub this video from the internet the same way it'd be done with child porn(which I profusely disagreed with). Fuck man I don't want to go to jail for just being an archivist.

The only Commonwealth country which I'm aware of having made possessing/sharing the video illegal is NZ. Australia definitely hasn't - our media has been showing portions of it as has the UK media.

 

[heathercho]

The only Commonwealth country which I'm aware of having made possessing/sharing the video illegal is NZ. Australia definitely hasn't - our media has been showing portions of it as has the UK media.

I don't think people really have any idea what the commonwealth is tbh. I mean a lot of people thought this attack happened in NZ, State of Australia....

 

[DuckSucker]

Can you spergs just stop shooting people? I don't want Kiwi Farms to get shutdown.

Sorry, my bad. I was running with my gun and i tripped.

I heard the ice cream truck and was real excited. Sorry.

 

[Stock Image Photographer]

You are soooo fucked. You do know we're part of the five eyes right? That they can pull up the info without you anyway?

Joined 3 minutes ago

Fuck off, NZ pig.

 

[Star Stuff]

As said before to the new folk: Use a different username. Use a different password. Use cock.li as your email address.

You are soooo fucked. You do know we're part of the five eyes right? That they can pull up the info without you anyway?

I don't know what the Five Faggots are, but they have about as much jurisdiction in the states as NZ does. It would look really bad internationally if a government endorsed group started harvesting identities from a server hosted in the U.S. Would NZ take that risk?

Honestly, I hope they do.

 

[repentance]

As said before to the new folk: Use a different username. Use a different password. Use cock.li as your email address.


I don't know what the Five Faggots are, but they have about as much jurisdiction in the states as NZ does. It would look really bad internationally if a government endorsed group started harvesting identities from a server hosted in the U.S. Would NZ take that risk?

Honestly, I hope they do.

Five Eyes already harvest the information and the US government is part of Five Eyes. They're way above the level of police forces.

 

[shartshooter]

You are soooo fucked. You do know we're part of the five eyes right? That they can pull up the info without you anyway?

If your police force goes after your own citizens for trifling bullshit and without warrants, sounds like you're the fucked one lol

 

[Star Stuff]

Five Eyes already harvest the information and the US government is part of Five Eyes. They're way above the level of police forces.

Welp, I'm retarded, but still not terribly afraid.

 

[GS 281]

Ignore spammy tards.

 

[repentance]

Welp, I'm exceptional, but still not terribly afraid.

There's no particular reason to be afraid. Null already acknowledged on his Twitter that if the US government wants info they will get it, and we all know there are ways for them to get it without bothering with subpoenas and shit. Null's only promise to us is that he will not hand it over without a valid US law enforcement request. If they get it some other way, that's not Null's fault.

Ignore spammy tards.

I kind of hoped we'd be rid of them by now. I think we were amazingly tolerant of them shitting up the place when this first happened.

 

[Recoil]

Not sure if this was mentioned before, but this isn't the first time we have had a tussle with NZ

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/2017-01-01-netsafe-org-nz-report-from-netsafe.27208/

I'll take Rabbit Holes for 200, Alex

 

[truthfairy]

Can you spergs just stop shooting people? I don't want Kiwi Farms to get shutdown.

No one here is shooting anyone or doing anyone harm. However, governments messing with freedoms is definitely a problem.

 

[ReplicantWiggum]

Even tho I was moralfagging the first day of watching the video. Mostly just because the shock of witnessing 40 people or so shot and killed in what looked almost like an ad for the next controversial CoD mission. I’ve pretty much shown everyone at my work the video after asking if they want to see it. I was surprised by the people who actually were interested in seeing such a horrible thing.

The way they are trying to sweep this away is bullshit. You don’t see 9/11 videos being taken down. Any sane person who watches the video regardless of left or right as I’ve shown both sides, have the same reaction. It’s shocking, cold, and heartless.

Honestly him live-streaming a shooting is the greatest ammo the MSM can use to destroy gun rights. “Oh you need a 50 round drum magazine to hunt? Here watch this 2 minute clip of a man unloading 100 plus rounds into 40 people.” I’m not even against gun rights but I understand why he did the things he did to an extent.

In short I think this video should be shared. For people to realize how quick an active shooter can act. How important it is to not pile into two exits, and lastly that shit like this most definently will happen again and the best way to survive is to understand how not only the shooter will act but how people in a life or death situation act.