Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

[AnOminous]

What help do these faggots need? They have a manifesto and a video of him killing people.

They weren't going after him, they were going after the thought criminals who watched the video.

Look at places like China where you get your hands chopped off for stealing or something like that.

Wtf are you talking about? They don't do that shit in China, that's kebab shit.

If you ask an Albanian Muslim they will tell you the Serbs raped and murdered innocents. If you ask a Serb they will tell you Albanian Muslims raped and murdered innocents.

PROTIP: They BOTH did.

 

[bigdaddydom]

This whole thing has me really worried about what the political response will be. I'm scared the US might be having their own Article 6 drawn up right now, and the retards will take the "Spyro 3 Ethnostate" shit seriously. Everyone is laughing at the media but there are people who listen to it, and some of those people have power. I'm kinda freaking out.

 

[AverageAnimeWatcher]

Besides the killings, what bothers me the most is that fact we don't know his real motive.

"Well duh! Read his manifesto. He says he wants to kill Muslims because he fears they will replace white people".

Yes, I did read his manifesto. And that's exactly why I doubt him. It isn't filled with sincerity like Elliot Rodger's manifesto. He is shitposting. It has the navy seal copypasta, and blames Fortnite and Spyro 3. Not to mention he name called Pewdiepie, It's obvious this guy wanted to piss off as many people as he could.

Maybe he is white nationalist as it seems. But, I think it's equally possible he doesn't really care about muslims and just wanted to cause the most suffering he could, even after the shooting was done. Throw stones to the beehive. Maybe he just wanted people to be scared, be confused and suffer for his enjoyment. Maybe he was just evil.

How can we tell?

 

[NewMorning]

And Youtube will remove it again not knowing (or caring,..are they?) it then they created a Streisand effect.

Meanwhile, lolcow Henry Makow think of these attacks are a false flag. https://www.henrymakow.com/2019/03/brendon-oconnell-false-flag.html ( http://archive.li/Vij8M )

And Youtube will remove it again not knowing (or caring,..are they?) it then they created a Streisand effect.

Meanwhile, lolcow Henry Makow think of these attacks are a false flag. https://www.henrymakow.com/2019/03/brendon-oconnell-false-flag.html ( http://archive.li/Vij8M )

No shit he was 'trained', he admits himself he trained for this for 2 solid years. And going into a narrow space to reload and shit is just common sense for anyone who isn't STUPID. I would have done that myself and I'm a nobody whose barely handled a gun much less seen combat, but I wouldn't stand in the open to reload like a pleb.

 

[nonvir_1984]

Mewtwo_Rain [https://kiwifarms.net/threads/brenton-tarrant-posts-on-8chan-shoots-up-mosque-killing-49-muslims-in-new-zealand-livestreams-from-gopro.54323/post-4451053]
This is the most sensible thing I have read.
Thanks for taking the trouble.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

What bothers me the most is that fact we don't know his real motive.

"Well duh! Read his manifesto. He says he wants to kill Muslims because he fears they will replace white people".

Yes, I did read his manifesto. And that's exactly why I doubt him. It isn't filled with sincerity like Elliot Rodger's.
It has the navy seal copypasta, and blames Fortnite and Spyro 3. Not to mention he name called Pewdiepie, It's obvious this guy wanted to piss off as many people as he could.

Maybe he is white nationalist as it seems. But, I think it's equally possible he doesn't really care about muslims and just wanted to cause the most suffering he could, even after the shooting was done. Throw stones to the beehive. Maybe he just wanted people to be scared, be confused and suffer for his enjoyment. Maybe he was just evil.

How can we tell?

To be fair he made sure to point out that he wasn't influenced by any games right below the Spyro and Fortnite mention (Why he says "No.". Though I do agree we have no clue if he was true to his claims of motives or not.

The only way he could have made it easier to understand if he had serious motives or if he was just doing it for the shits and giggles of causing suffering is if he had simply played Dancing Mad while he was doing the shooting.

 

[JeffA]

He wants retaliation. He's trying to force the hand of Muslim extremists to attack New Zealand/ Europe. Just my opinion

Most of all he wants fame/infamy, because he didn't like being a nobody who left school early, had no career, no girlfriend/wife or children.
Just my 2 cents.

 

[TPDPolice]

Well, given that I'm unable to ever visit New Zealand, (and while we're at it most of Europe), I just wish to state for the record in unequivocal terms that the New Zealand government and police bodies can suck my fucking dick.

 

[repentance]

Just a quick reminder that Nick Rekieta's livestream about this start in 10 minutes and that Null will be a guest.

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[PorkChopJones]

What bothers me the most is that fact we don't know his real motive.

"Well duh! Read his manifesto. He says he wants to kill Muslims because he fears they will replace white people".

Yes, I did read his manifesto. And that's exactly why I doubt him. It isn't filled with sincerity like Elliot Rodger's manifesto. He is shitposting. It has the navy seal copypasta, and blames Fortnite and Spyro 3. Not to mention he name called Pewdiepie, It's obvious this guy wanted to piss off as many people as he could.

Maybe he is white nationalist as it seems. But, I think it's equally possible he doesn't really care about muslims and just wanted to cause the most suffering he could, even after the shooting was done. Throw stones to the beehive. Maybe he just wanted people to be scared, be confused and suffer for his enjoyment. Maybe he was just evil.

How can we tell?

He was attention seeking. Labeling people with titles like White Nationalist is a waste of time, it could have a different meaning from one person to another. These days being labeled a racist covers insults that hurt someone feelings......back in the day it described some really evil SOB's that had much more in common with JiHadi's than Storm Front.

 

[NewMorning]

I applaud your optimism and appreciate the sentiment, but it's impossible to win a war without criminalizing & dehumanizing the other side; especially against an aggressor with no such compunctions.

The will to fight is hardwired into our nature; groups shackling it with that absolute ideal are abberations amongst past & current human cultures. The vast majority have become either historical footnotes or are tiny minorities in tolerant countries; Amish, Quakers, & Mennonites are examples of absolute humanism still in practice.

We're human; there will always be someone who wants to take that which is not theirs and remove undesirables.

The only real upshot is that wars end fast when one side has an existential distaste for hating & killing other people; but good luck to those who depend on mercy for survival, if they survive that long.

I agree with you to a point, but I actually don't think you need to dehumanize people to recognize that there's a problem that needs to be dealt with, and if dealing with it peacefully doesn't work, then you have to use the remaining alternative. People can, with regret in their hearts, shoot the rabid family dog. It's dehumanization that causes people to dismiss non-violent alternatives without giving them a fair shot. It's dehumanization that's causing the Muslim terrorists to terrorize as well, because they see us as less than animals.

 

[mindlessobserver]

@Null is going to be on rackets here in a few minutes to talk about this.

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[CIA Nigger]

Apparently they failed to notice something which even 4pol and 8pol noticed. The content on his social media accounts was only posted in the time leading up to the attacks. People are drawing exactly the inferences he wanted them to draw, but that doesn't make them valid. There's no reason to assume that the "connections" people are drawing are any more real than Spyro 3 influencing him.

Like a lot of terrorists/mass shooters, he knew that the media and internet would be combing through his social media before the social media titans nuked his accounts. Either he had no internet footprint on social media, or more likely he nuked his old accounts during his planning process so they'd only see a small social media page with what he wanted them to notice.

Chances are he also wanted to appear clean with either no social media history or a well scrubbed one to get by any background check. The article says a proper background investigation would have discovered it but since he likely practiced some form of opsec such as nuking his old social media accounts if he had any, he would have passed with flying colors. Furthermore, if he had a social media account and bragged about it like a dumbass there was a chance he would have been caught, like what happened to Lindsay Souvannarath and other failed terrorists who told their plans to the FBI/posted about it online. He only posted to /pol/ not long before the attack started.

 

[ddlloo]

Besides the killings, what bothers me the most is that fact we don't know his real motive.

"Well duh! Read his manifesto. He says he wants to kill Muslims because he fears they will replace white people".

Yes, I did read his manifesto. And that's exactly why I doubt him. It isn't filled with sincerity like Elliot Rodger's manifesto. He is shitposting. It has the navy seal copypasta, and blames Fortnite and Spyro 3. Not to mention he name called Pewdiepie, It's obvious this guy wanted to piss off as many people as he could.

Maybe he is white nationalist as it seems. But, I think it's equally possible he doesn't really care about muslims and just wanted to cause the most suffering he could, even after the shooting was done. Throw stones to the beehive. Maybe he just wanted people to be scared, be confused and suffer for his enjoyment. Maybe he was just evil.

How can we tell?

I genuinely believe he is an accelerations that decided to take action. What triggered that decision, and supposedly led to month's/years of planning I don't know. What you call shitposting I would consider as seeding. Pewdiepie and Candace Owens are already surrounded by vigorous ideological debate, this will just worsen it. Fortnite, how many articles about the game in the years to come will mention this attack? Will screeching authoritarians try and crack down on violence in games again because of it? He hit on so many things in the cultural zeitgeist. Worst of all is that it seems to be working, with NZ leading the fucking way.

 

[Itu aru kamusu tugeza]

Besides the killings, what bothers me the most is that fact we don't know his real motive.

"Well duh! Read his manifesto. He says he wants to kill Muslims because he fears they will replace white people".

Yes, I did read his manifesto. And that's exactly why I doubt him. It isn't filled with sincerity like Elliot Rodger's manifesto. He is shitposting. It has the navy seal copypasta, and blames Fortnite and Spyro 3. Not to mention he name called Pewdiepie, It's obvious this guy wanted to piss off as many people as he could.

Maybe he is white nationalist as it seems. But, I think it's equally possible he doesn't really care about muslims and just wanted to cause the most suffering he could, even after the shooting was done. Throw stones to the beehive. Maybe he just wanted people to be scared, be confused and suffer for his enjoyment. Maybe he was just evil.

How can we tell?

It's a shitpost designed to be covered and meted out by both MSM and social media, to sow discord in between very volatile political groups on both the right and left; in other words, it's designed to feed on outrage culture. The implication that he is a white nationalist is irrelevant, but his other goals, keeping the friction between both radical left and right in mind, seems to be accelerationist in nature, and that he wants things to get worse faster than it is right now seeing as there's little room for actual discussion looking at all the name-calling that's going on aboveground right now. The shooting is obviously what the media needs as a vehicle, and so that's what he's giving them.

On first glance, the shooting itself coupled with the manifesto seems oddly nihilistic, but on closer inspection, it's obvious he wanted to send a message, seeing as he spent two years planning this whole thing out. There is sincerity here, albeit bundled under loads and loads of self-loathing irony and bitterness, as expected from a /pol/ regular. Else, he wouldn't have gone to the trouble of using the GoPro, which pretty much for all practical reasons serves as a means to legitimize the evidence, seeing the frequency of false-flag catcalls in the aftermath of these sorts of events.

In the end though, it looks like the targets and the crime itself were more of a means to an end. A political crime speaking to the masses, instead of some personal grudge.

 

[NewMorning]

They're playing into the terrorist hands because most people in society are like the typical journalist. low intelligence, poor impulse control, and a poor ability to self-reflect or self-actualize.

The problem is even if this shooting didn't happen general society was waiting to do these things if not now, then later. Society has to shape up because we can't control the extremist or minor exceptional cases all together. The problem is society is now irresponsible, becoming more divided, and not being formally educated, victim-hood culture doesn't help which easily makes this shooters ambitions and goals more realistic and obtainable as we speak. (Or allowing him to play the crowd like a fiddle.)

The real problem is the idea that you CAN 100% stop this kind of thing from ever happening. The world govts and everyone calling for gun control and censorship and policy change in the wake of this are plagued with utopianism.

 

[nonvir_1984]

Folks here have commented that youtube has some sort of jihad against anything remotely right wing. Well, just to show how much they actually understand, there is so much jihadist content there its not funny. Take this for instance: Dirty Kuffar - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWZd088e2Lg
It's been there since 2008.
Yet, the Nazis used to used music for their newsreels. For instance, Johann Strauss Sr. "Radetzky March" . And in this version, the conductor seems to be tossing a Sieg Heil .

Johann Strauss Sr. "Radetzky March" performed by Vienna Philharmonic at new years concert 2011

Franz Welser-Möst conducts Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra

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Expect it and Wagner to be taken down. And all we will have are endless cat videos and Muslim Sheiks saying the earth is flat, FGM is good, beat your missus - you have a choice of four - and the kuffar are going to die. because jihad is mandatory.
Now, that's fair.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

The real problem is the idea that you CAN 100% stop this kind of thing from ever happening. The world govts and everyone calling for gun control and censorship and policy change in the wake of this are plagued with utopianism.

Although it is true it could be technically feasible to stop it the problem is how you would stop the policy makers from thinking in such ways, and those who push such "Utopianism." Debating them hasn't stopped their nonsensical thinking, or stopping them from resorting to doubling down on their misguided principles. Sure, you could resort to violence or forceful removal, but you'd have to have the majority of normal people on board which also isn't an easy bake solution. in my opinion.

Edit: Whoops I misread that at the start. Sorry.

 

[serb]

Serbs may have not hijacked planes and used suicide vests, but ethnic cleansing and killing of hundreds of thousands of muslims and croats in balkans is as just as bad or worse. And they always deny it, because if they did not they would be admitting to their war crimes.

In a war each side use different techniques to win the war - I hope every person, on any side that acted in any kind of this ethnic cleansing, raping got what they deserve.

My father went into that stupid war, his best friend was muslim and he was "fighter" on Serbian side. Even in one moment his childhood friend who was living near Kljuc was fighting with him at some specific village in Bosnia, they figured out they know each others during the shooting (I can't remember full story) - but they helped each other in a war.

When war was beginning, Bosnian people noticed Serbian people night before everything started to happen - they even helped them, to pack things and helped them to move to "safe" zone.

Also, often media is publishing anything they want - they are doing basic brain washing, don't be brain washed.

I often travel to Sarajevo from Belgrade and I have family in Banja Luka, also I have a lot of friends from Sarajevo who are muslims, Bosnians - we even work together and act as an family for last 6 years. I don't even need to speak about other friends/people I know from Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Albania and many other different world wide countries.

In any part of world you will always run into specific people who has other disorders that use these shitty war as excuse to make problems, don't make problems - try to help.

Most important is that you as a person will never win a war, your country will - you can sacrifice for your country... if you are an idiot. You should only sacrifice yourself for your family, friends and yourself.

Regarding this guy, I don't think he was part of any group from Serbia, as a part of Serbian community I can assure you that we don't have any kind of terrorist groups here - situation in Serbia is that bad that we have only groups leaded by competition politic shit parties that want to take out current president - just standard story

We are living pretty hard at the moment and our country is currently messed up because everyone (mostly politicians) are trying to grab and steal anything they can.

Sorry for my English, I wish all the best to Kiwi community and this message wasn't written to start any kind of multi-ethnic fight.

 

[NewMorning]

Imam soaked in Gatorade.

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How thin would your blood need to be to make stains than watered down in the first place? It's laughable to suggest that's blood on his clothes.
I noticed several blatant lies myself, like about Tarrant resisting arrest...he was clearly dragged UNCONSCIOUS from the vehicle and handcuffed while unconscious and dragged halfway down the street unconscious.
They claim a 5 year old girl was shot at Al Noor mosque (the one he livestreamed), but you can clearly see there's no children there, and children--especially females--don't pray at the same time at the men in the first place so there wouldn't have been children of ANY kind in there.
Apparently killing 50 people wasn't tragic enough for them, they needed to hype it up.