Brenton Tarrant posts on 8chan, shoots up Mosque killing 49 muslims in New Zealand, livestreams from GoPro

Take away the Guns, Censor the Video, Throw people in Jail for Having the Video, or do it all?

  • Just take the guns, it'll work out fine.

    Votes: 65 5.9%
  • Doesn't matter, it's Trump's Fault.

    Votes: 271 24.4%
  • Just ban the video, it's totally doable.

    Votes: 39 3.5%
  • DO EVERYTHING!

    Votes: 207 18.6%
  • Make Null turn us over, that'll make us safe.

    Votes: 528 47.6%

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Like knives, and other tools, guns are only dangerous in the hands of people. The UK won't stop violence by taking away knives. That's as dumb as saying you'll stop violent deaths by banning cars. Humans kill humans, not what they use to do it.
Very true, however at least we haven't had a mass shooting since the event that triggered the ban. You can still have a gun here, it just needs to have a licence and kept in a locked cabinet. Hunting is still pretty popular with the upper middle class here so you can't ban then completely or all the members of parliament who like a good deer shoot up on a weekend would be very upset.

Easier to stop someone with a knife than a gun, but trying to make it stupidly hard just to get a knife only makes getting a sharp knife to cook your dinner with a nightmare lmao.

The bigger issue here is 'offensive weapons' in general. You can't even carry something like pepper spray to defend yourself, it's considered an offensive item, so police will recommend off the record you just carry perfume or something to spray in someone's eyes. Its like some of the police here know it's silly, but there's nothing they can do.
 
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Very true, however at least we haven't had a mass shooting since the event that triggered the ban. You can still have a gun here, it just needs to have a licence and kept in a locked cabinet. Hunting is still pretty popular with the upper middle class here so you can't ban then completely or all the members of parliament who like a good deer shoot up on a weekend would be very upset.

Easier to stop someone with a knife than a gun, but trying to make it stupidly hard just to get a knife only makes getting a sharp knife to cook your dinner with a nightmare lmao.

The bigger issue here is 'offensive weapons' in general. You can't even carry something like pepper spray to defend yourself, it's considered an offensive item, so police will recommend off the record you just carry perfume or something to spray in someone's eyes. Its like some of the police here know it's silly, but there's nothing they can do.
London bridge massacre killed more people than all but the very wort mass shooting in US history, The Vegas attack. People are still dying in horrific events regardless of guns being widely available or not. It's a false, unhelpful measure.

As for pepper spray, I did not know that. It's concerning that a non lethal deterrent is made illegal.
 
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Such a glorious hitpiece with an uhmazing headline. Not even the attempt at balanced reporting. Mentioning paedophilia, bomb threats, incels (for no fucking reason than the bad rep they have),

HAND OVER THE DATA, YOU FUCKING INCELS REEEEEEEEEE

It's a work of art. The headline implies that we have specific information on Tarrant and/or posts by Tarrant that Null is refusing to hand over. Anyone, including law enforcement, can already read all of the posts made about the attacks and the shooter - law enforcement has probably already screen capped them.

At least be honest about what it is Null is refusing to give them.
 
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Such a glorious hitpiece with an uhmazing headline. Not even the attempt at balanced reporting. Mentioning paedophilia, bomb threats, incels (for no fucking reason than the bad rep they have),

HAND OVER THE DATA, YOU FUCKING INCELS REEEEEEEEEE

I can imagine the writers of these articles were furiously mashing their keys in outrage.
 
The picture of Joshua Connor Moon in that article says a lot. Strong masculine jaw shows when shit hits the fan he grits his teeth and powers through. Steely gaze with eyes full of determination, you'll not sway this man from his path. Full head of hair always a bonus. Asymmetrical eyebrows throw you off the scent, what's he thinking? You won't know until he unloads on you and your shithole country. A nose.

So this article is trying to shame Josh in to getting rid of the footage and hand over info on posters, sorry if I'm just repeating what's been said I'm a few dozen pages behind. He and the users are Alt-Right, Anti-Feminist, Trump supporting incels. Is there any redemption for the Kiwis? Only if Josh kisses the ring of the fake news and totalitarian censorious scum and gives them what they want. Surely then they'll have a more balanced view, right? Right?

Fuck 'em all.
 
So this article is trying to shame Josh in to getting rid of the footage and hand over info on posters, sorry if I'm just repeating what's been said I'm a few dozen pages behind. He and the users are Alt-Right, Anti-Feminist, Trump supporting incels. Is there any redemption for the Kiwis? Only if Josh kisses the ring of the fake news and totalitarian censorious scum and gives them what they want. Surely then they'll have a more balanced view, right? Right?

Fuck 'em all.

The irony of News Corp media referring to KF as "alt-right" is that any SJW in Australia would consider all of the Murdoch media itself as alt-right.
 
Just as many people, including the fucking shooter, predicted, the govt of New Zealand is embarking on a massive lock-down of civil liberties following the ChristChurch massacre.

Not only are they threatening imprisonment for anyone who possesses the video of the incident, and threatening fourteen years in prison to those who 'deal' the video.


But the New Zealand Police are also LYING about their response to the incident. If you've seen the video, linked above in the Incident thread, you can plainly see that the police took much longer to respond than they say they did.
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If you watched the video, the attack began the first shots rang out at 6:33 into the video, and the attacker had finished emptying several clips of ammunition into the people at the mosque, and shot three people on the street before getting to his car, running over the corpse of a woman he had just killed, and driving down the road. Using a pump shotgun to fire on people on the sidewalk. Even if you factor in that police were called a minute or two after the shooting began, sirens were not heard in the video until at least 15:23. He was still at the Mosque Seven minutes after the shooting started. They could have sent police from another area, that got there immediately after the shooter left, but when you look at maps of the region, things get a bit clearer. This police Twitter message in regards to the massacre is to praise the response time that is fucking embarrassing.
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The red marked Location is the first Mosque, confirmed by this image that matches the front of the building from the shooting.
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Now, compare this to the police locations in the area, as shown here;
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The Mosque isn't even ten blocks away from TWO police stations, and the closest two are in the same area, separated by only a few blocks. From the video, it appears the shooter leaves in his car going down Deans Ave towards Addington. He was almost four minutes away when the first sirens are even heard. Add this to the New Zealand government asking Null to give them all user information on those who post about the shooting here, and combine this with how the police are threatening 10 to 14 years in jail for possessing the video, and it appears they're censoring the internet to cover up this massive fuck up. There are three fully manned police stations within this very small area, and there wasn't a single squad-car, or response for longer than they claim. Even if I fucked my math up, and they got that response time, there is no excuse for how long this took. Gunshots are easily heard at the distance police are to the Mosque.
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The Police and armed units are happy for citizens to turn over their weapons, after a pathetic and failed response to a terrorist attack got 49 people murdered and dozens others horrifically wounded. Look at the comments to this shit show. People are fucking Applauding this. "Yes, please! Take our guns!"

The entirety of New Zealand should be ashamed for this obvious abuse of power, and the total failure of the emergency services. Average US police response time for crimes is 10 minutes. For high priority, or violent crimes such as shootings, average response time is 5 minutes.
Perhaps I'm paranoid, but it appears the New Zealand Government is terrified of this incident, and their response to it defining the country the world over. The mainstream media's reaction isn't helping either. With most of their vitriol going to the social media platforms sharing the video, instead of the actual shooting. One example being this Article from the Washington Post.
What do you folks think? Think removing guns and eliminating the video from public memory will help the situation?
NZ Police Commissioner's Twitter: https://twitter.com/NZPCommissioner
New Zealand PD Twitter: https://twitter.com/nzpolice?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

Yeah, that is fucking bullshit. 10 minutes my ass when that monster was able to barge in, go postal on 50 people for 7 minutes pretty as he pleased, left the Muslim chat, got into his car and did some more shooty shoots as well as nigroid drivebys before getting caught half-an-hour later! While I believe that there may be some internal issues withing their police agencies, I think this massive fuckup was caused by the fact nothing this bad happens in their country and their police, as well as their SRTs or whatever, have become complacent. While I did not have the courage to watch the video, only watching about 5-10 seconds of it, the police in Christchruch have no-one to blame but themselves, and the citizens of Christchurch and New Zealand as a whole will suffer for it all because muh kneejerk reaction.

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corrected the minute count per being corrected.
 
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All you have to do is look up the SAFE act on Wikipedia and it will give you the exact same county breakdown.

The reason why we both screencap and archive here is because online information is easily and frequently changed and archiving ensures that we have an independent record of how the information appeared on the date the post was made.
 
All you have to do is look up the SAFE act on Wikipedia and it will give you the exact same county breakdown.
Link for the curious: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NY_SAFE_Act
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Constant protests, amendments to the act, out of an estimated one million firearms that are required to be registered less than fifty thousand have been registered. The VA told the state to fuck off. If you honestly think these laws passing make no one resist, you're delusional.

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Yeah, that is fucking bullshit. 10 minutes my ass when that monster was able to barge in, go postal on 50 people for 17 minutes pretty as he pleased, left the Muslim chat, got into his car and did some more shooty shoots as well as nigroid drivebys before getting caught half-an-hour later! While I believe that there may be some internal issues withing their police agencies, I think this massive fuckup was caused by the fact nothing this bad]/i] happens in their country and their police, as well as their SRTs or whatever, have become complacent. While I did not have the courage to watch the video, only watching about 5-10 second of it, the police in Christchruch have no-one to blame but themselves, and the citizens of Christchurch and New Zealand as a whole will suffer for it all because muh kneejerk reaction.
factually incorrect. Not seventeen minutes. he was done shooting in seven. I highly suggest you watch the video, you will be better informed before speaking on the matter.
 
Before he founded Kiwi Farms, Moon was sacked as an administrator for 8chan for allegedly promoting paedophilia. He is notorious for his online stalking and harassment campaigns, which have featured threats to “rape, murder and dismember” his mainly female victims.
In 2016, Moon was linked to a series of online threats to harm children in Florida, where he shares a home with his mother, forcing dozens of schools into lockdown.
I'm sure this article contains nothing but true and honest facts.
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I would love a job writing hit pieces like this, I'm sure it takes like maybe 10 minutes to brew up something as retarded as that. Especially since you don't even have to research anything, obviously.

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We always take care of the prairie-niggers. They should stop being so skiddish.

Noncompliance and one(definitely far from constant) protest that drew only a few thousand people certainly isn't the war you're predicting.
State law that does not outright ban weapons is a sight different than going door to door demanding you hand over your weapons. And I guarantee you if the police started raiding homes, they'll be more dead cops than not.
 
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Such a glorious hitpiece with an uhmazing headline. Not even the attempt at balanced reporting. Mentioning paedophilia, bomb threats, incels (for no fucking reason than the bad rep they have),

HAND OVER THE DATA, YOU FUCKING INCELS REEEEEEEEEE

Hey, I find this offensive! Just because Null isn't getting laid doesn't mean we aren't!
 
London bridge massacre killed more people than all but the very wort mass shooting in US history, The Vegas attack. People are still dying in horrific events regardless of guns being widely available or not. It's a false, unhelpful measure.

As for pepper spray, I did not know that. It's concerning that a non lethal deterrent is made illegal.
What? London Bridge killed 8 people what are you on about? Manchester (the Ariana gig) killed more (22). Are you talking about 7/7 instead? The bus/tube bombings? That killed like 50.

The turning point for the guns here was Dunblane in 1996 where 16 primary school children (5 years old) were shot up. Hence the reaction.
 
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