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Holden said:
Because when feminism started rape was still abhorrent to women still they were mostly attracted to intelligent men, providers.
But after feminism destroyed this and made them worship ape cock propaganda against rape would be gone by now if it hadn't begun to serve a different purpose - to make intelligent men, whom women now don't want to reproduce with, expect consent and thus prove they're genetic losers (currently).
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1) You may see yourself as a intelligent man (although everyone else sees otherwise) but you're NOT a provider at all. Thus in "pre-feminism" days you'd still be a loser.
2) If the purpose of rape is to make intelligent men, then did your dad rape your mom to make an "intelligent man" like you?
 
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Cephalometrist said:
Well, first of all, thank you for answering my questions.
Now:

Why not? What brings you to that conclusion? If you want to bring examples from history (and no hypothetical ones please), you have to consider that most states that ceased to be in the past weren't even remotely influenced or even dominated by a female ruler or a group consisting of females. There are multitudes of reasons as to why states or governments have failed. Why is women's suffrage (or women in positions of power) inherently bad for every society or every state?
- Are you seriously comparing a society with some female rulers, all of who depended on men and were succeded my men, with female suffrage? Wow.


No, just no. Not even during the days of the Roman Republic was there something even remotely similar to women's suffrage.
- You don't get my point. Of course there wasn't, since Republic was sane. But Empire wasn't and would have given it, had it been a democracy


As far as I know, there are conservative women around, so I have to ask:
Does this apply to both conservative and progressive governments? (I ask because you seem to switch from liberal/progressive governments in particular to governments as a whole)
What is the thing that all women (i.e. the whole field, women who voted a far left party to women who voted a far right party) want to hear if you want their votes?
- They want a right to cheat on their husband and be paid and protected by the govt to do so.

Surprisingly many, as far as I remember. The main difference is that they settle down less often (and become fulltime housewives) and later than they used to in the past.
But one thing is correct: one of the main reasons women are an established part of a nation's workforce isn't so much feminist propaganda, but rather pragmatism of the nations that had almost all of their able-bodied males fighting and dying like flies in two world wars.
And I don't know if you can really compare the situation of a couple in the 1880s and nowadays. A lot of the devices that facilitate running the household weren't massproduced yet, so doing chores (and raising children) must have been a even bigger pain in the ass than it still is nowadays.
- That was a wartime situation. There was no reason for women to stay in the workforce.

Define "liberalism", please. Because it is pretty useless using a term that has been coined more than a millenium after that, when capitalism and welfare states came into existence.
- What I call liberalism is really progressivism today.

Who do you mean? Athenians and Plato?
-I made a mistake there. Shouldn't have been "late Ancient Greek philosophers"


Yeah, it probably wasn't the rise of Rome, but that...
-Yes, it was that more than Rome. Most civilizations collapse within, usually due to liberalism.


The your entire concept of "liberalism" is a completely meaningless term.
-Why?


The thing is this: personhood and the rights it entails is pretty much a given in most modern societies and one of the few things almost everybody would agree on.
If you want to deny it for one arbitrary part of society because you feel like it, you better present some good reasons for doing so
- https://caamib.wordpress.com/the-story-of-your-incel-an-inconvenient-truth/ - mass rape and destruction of sane,intelligent people not good enough for you?

"Quality" huh?
You have a very strange concept about how children grow up and learn things, I give you that.
- What? What does this have to do?


Why is being a "provider" and a "seducer" mutually exclusive?
- You have to understand types of males and history to know that. Rooshes of this world aren't providers. Seducers were always stupid human vermin who can't even hold a job, EVEN IF IT WOULD WANT TO



It doesn't.
-It does. Research has shown this lately.
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For someone who claims to be a straight man, he's sure focused on cocks.

And not just human cocks.

By the way, @Holden, I think you would greatly appreciate the video 1 Lunatic 1 Icepick.
 
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HipstrsGonnaHip said:
It's more complicated for that. For example, he claims that rape isn't rape if no one "owns" the woman. And because he isn't willing to prey on "owned" women, he isn't a rapist.
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Yes, if we are talking about what rape legally was in sane societies. But there's also an act of rape. Slut can be raped in that it is act, but that is no crime but a good deed in sane societies.
 
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Holden said:
Yes, if we are talking about what rape legally was in sane societies. But there's also an act of rape. Slut can be raped in that it is act, but that is no crime but a good deed in sane societies.
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You're a regular good samaritan, aren't you? Helping old women at crosswalks, carrying groceries for neighbors, raping anyone who shows a wee bit too much skin...
 
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