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Certain Iago’s DMs with Rial in the foreseeable future
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However, it's my understanding that NeoGAF is still very much running. I'm wondering if the climate changed after the dust settled and whether Evillore might have become less of a virture signaling faggot.
I'm slow as fuck sometimes. He got beat over the head with how virtue signaling ends, and did manage to learn from it. Problem is his site is already dead. 150 members online right now.
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Guess what I'm saying here is that the conventions deserve the benefit of the doubt, and shouldn't be met with same ire we're holding for Sabat.

Nobody here should hold any sympathy for any of the idiots highlighted in the main cast. Even if in the end they did turn out to be dancing to the pide piper of Sabat. Everyone made their choice. Allison Cooke made the choice to believe her fellow Fujoshies and add her voice to the whisper network. Kaylyn Saucedo made her choice to to decide to signal boost Allisons tweet, Sabats flunkies decided to obey his urging and #metoo Vic, and the Conventions decided to go along with it even in the face of massive fan blowback.

The only victim here is Vic. Everyone else is a culpable accessory to the willful destruction of an innocent man. The conventions can make restitution. So can his fellow voice actors, but there can be no true absolution for any of them. Either they followed the mob or they took orders from an opportunistic douche bag. They all had a choice to not follow the herd, and when the choice was presented to them they refused and instead chose to be lesser moral agents. For that they deserve the fate that is rapidly coming for them all.
 
Oh WOW.

This is EviLore's hot take on all this:

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Link to Vic thread (pretty annemic, but 90% of this would result in bans on the old NeoGAF/current ResetEra):


Problem is his site is already dead. 150 members online right now.

Yeah.

I almost feel sorry for him.

I mentioned NeoGAF because Evilore is precisely the type of liberal Ty was talking about tonight. He wasn't woke enough, and they destroyed him.

EDIT: Archived at http://archive.is/HjiOO
 
Nobody here should hold any sympathy for any of the idiots highlighted in the main cast. Even if in the end they did turn out to be dancing to the pide piper of Sabat. Everyone made their choice. Allison Cooke made the choice to believe her fellow Fujoshies and add her voice to the whisper network. Kaylyn Saucedo made her choice to to decide to signal boost Allisons tweet, Sabats flunkies decided to obey his urging and #metoo Vic, and the Conventions decided to go along with it even in the face of massive fan blowback.

The only victim here is Vic. Everyone else is a culpable accessory to the willful destruction of an innocent man. The conventions can make restitution. So can his fellow voice actors, but there can be no true absolution for any of them. Either they followed the mob or they took orders from an opportunistic douche bag. They all had a choice to not follow the herd, and when the choice was presented to them they refused and instead chose to be lesser moral agents. For that they deserve the fate that is rapidly coming for them all.
The arguable difference between the cons and the people on the main cast is that they (apparently) did this without malice. The others, whether it was because he's a good-looking white christian man, or he wouldn't sign gay art, or that he was financially successful (as far as acting goes, anyway), or that he genuinely loved his fans who loved him right back. They knowingly did it, almost assuredly with fully willful malice.

The cons, on the other hand were given the unenviable position of (in their eyes, with their information at the time) choosing shit, and choosing shittier. Should they have strengthened their backbone and still invited Vic anyway? Yeah. But when you're under the pressure industry bigwigs like Sabat can exert (remember, the Kamehacon guy was purportedly so sick of this shit he'd seriously considering quitting).

In short, the main cast did it because they were bad people. The cons did it because they were fed bad information and/or coerced.

(I'm making the assumption that the cons weren't complicit in this. If they were, bring on the Beard.)
 
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The arguable difference between the cons and the people on the main cast is that they (apparently) did this without malice. The others, whether it was because he's a good-looking white christian man, or he wouldn't sign gay art, or that he was financially successful (as far as acting goes, anyway), or that he genuinely loved his fans who loved him right back. They knowingly did it, almost assuredly with fully willful malice.

The cons, on the other hand were given the unenviable position of (in their eyes, with their information at the time) choosing shit, and choosing shittier. Should they have strengthened their backbone and still invited Vic anyway? Yeah. But when you're under the pressure industry bigwigs like Sabat can exert (remember, the Kamehacon guy was purportedly so sick of this shit he'd seriously considering quitting).

In short, the main cast did it because they were bad people. The cons did it because they were fed bad information and/or coerced.

(I'm making the assumption that the cons weren't complicit in this. If they were, bring on the Beard.)

See, this is what's called a tragedy in common parlance, you're given every chance to do the right thing, to back the fuck off, and every single time, you fuck up.

Not even necessarily because you're horrible person (though that helps a whole lot), but because of a thousand other reasons.

And then someone winds up losing their livelihood or god forbid dead in a ditch somewhere.
 
If you listen closely to what Ty says when he starts talking about Iago he says three lines that should be paid close attention. First is that he says iago is not working for any of the studios. Second Iago has influence in these cons. Third he has bragged about his money on the social media.

After reading through posts from you guys i can 99 percent affirm that Iago is geekdom. He doesn't work for studios check. He has influence in cons check. He has bragged about his money checked.

Chris sabat works for at least one if not both the studio involved cross. Chris Sabat has some influence in cons check. Chris sabat has bragged about his money Unknown.

What do you guys think? ?
 
If you listen closely to what Ty says when he starts talking about Iago he says three lines that should be paid close attention. First is that he says iago is not working for any of the studios. Second Iago has influence in these cons. Third he has bragged about his money on the social media.

After reading through posts from you guys i can 99 percent affirm that Iago is geekdom. He doesn't work for studios check. He has influence in cons check. He has bragged about his money checked.

Chris sabat works for at least one if not both the studio involved cross. Chris Sabat has some influence in cons check. Chris sabat has bragged about his money Unknown.

What do you guys think? ?

It also makes it very obvious why Geekdom is "less than happy" about other DB youtubers like Forneverworld taking the very reasonable position of "I don't want to crucify a man based on rumors", these jokers can't exactly help but over-react when someone (unintentionally or otherwise) bungles their plans.
 
If you listen closely to what Ty says when he starts talking about Iago he says three lines that should be paid close attention. First is that he says iago is not working for any of the studios. Second Iago has influence in these cons. Third he has bragged about his money on the social media.

After reading through posts from you guys i can 99 percent affirm that Iago is geekdom. He doesn't work for studios check. He has influence in cons check. He has bragged about his money checked.

Chris sabat works for at least one if not both the studio involved cross. Chris Sabat has some influence in cons check. Chris sabat has bragged about his money Unknown.

What do you guys think? ?
Forgot 4th Does he have his own business that can get sucked into these lawsuits.
 
If you listen closely to what Ty says when he starts talking about Iago he says three lines that should be paid close attention. First is that he says iago is not working for any of the studios. Second Iago has influence in these cons. Third he has bragged about his money on the social media.

After reading through posts from you guys i can 99 percent affirm that Iago is geekdom. He doesn't work for studios check. He has influence in cons check. He has bragged about his money checked.

Chris sabat works for at least one if not both the studio involved cross. Chris Sabat has some influence in cons check. Chris sabat has bragged about his money Unknown.

What do you guys think? ?

Respectfully disagree. Inquisitor Nick and Primarch Tyberius obviously cannot state it out loud because they'd possibly spook the horses.

It's very very obviously Sabat from our own dot connecting. He doesn't work directly for RT or Funimation, he has influence at cons, and has his own company with the Okatron 5000.

Here's a curve ball suggestion though: Justin Sevakis of ANN.
 
Respectfully disagree. Inquisitor Nick and Primarch Tyberius obviously cannot state it out loud because they'd possibly spook the horses.

It's very very obviously Sabat from our own dot connecting. He doesn't work directly for RT or Funimation, he has influence at cons, and has his own company with the Okatron 5000.

Here's a curve ball suggestion though: Justin Sevakis of ANN.
Honestly speaking i myself don't wanna believe that geekdom101 is Iago. Mostly because i want Chris who has been absolute scumbag in priv dms and Twitter to actually get some sort of jail time for being an absolutely manipulative piece of shit. Geekdom101 i probably only ever watched 1 vid from him so don't have any dislike/hatred for him for now at least.

Also my dislike for this iago person if he is sabat is def gonna turn into hatred because ty also mentioned this iago bitch threatening his other client.

Hopefully its Chris Soybat.
 
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Honestly speaking i myself don't wanna believe that geekdom101 is Iago. Mostly because i want Chris who has been absolute scumbag in priv dms and Twitter to actually get some sort of jail time for being an absolutely manipulative piece of shit. Geekdom101 i probably only ever watched 1 vid from him so don't have any dislike/hatred for him for now at least.

Also my dislike for this iago person if he is sabat is def gonna turn into hatred because ty also mentioned this iago bitch threatening his other client.

Hopefully its Chris Soybat.
I think the fact that Sabat's studio is directly linked to Kamehacon and the fact that they were strong arming the Con to kickvic. I have a strong feeling it's him.
 
If you listen closely to what Ty says when he starts talking about Iago he says three lines that should be paid close attention. First is that he says iago is not working for any of the studios. Second Iago has influence in these cons. Third he has bragged about his money on the social media.

After reading through posts from you guys i can 99 percent affirm that Iago is geekdom. He doesn't work for studios check. He has influence in cons check. He has bragged about his money checked.

Chris sabat works for at least one if not both the studio involved cross. Chris Sabat has some influence in cons check. Chris sabat has bragged about his money Unknown.

What do you guys think? ?
Iago = Sabat.
Iago
  • Man
  • Known TI to conventions (Nick mentioned Rial, Soye, Shane and Sabat),
  • Not an 'employee' (i.e contract), but has great deal of influence (VA and studio owner) (+Sabat)
  • Not a convention runner (-Shane +Sabat)
  • Bragged about riches (-Shane +Soye?)
  • Company will be nailed as vice principal (+Sabat)
  • Threatened Haberkorn (+Sabat)
  • Little bitch Igor who he hates - probably Soye
  • Ugly (+Sabat)
  • Bitch Voice (-Soye, Who's heard him?)
  • Vindictive little bitch (+Sabat)
Who the fuck is geekdom? some random youtuber that worked with RT at some point?
 
Iago = Sabat.
Iago
  • Man
  • Known TI to conventions (Nick mentioned Rial, Soye, Shane and Sabat),
  • Not an 'employee' (i.e contract), but has great deal of influence (VA and studio owner) (+Sabat)
  • Not a convention runner (-Shane +Sabat)
  • Bragged about riches (-Shane +Soye?)
  • Company will be nailed as vice principal (+Sabat)
  • Threatened Haberkorn (+Sabat)
  • Little bitch Igor who he hates - probably Soye
  • Ugly (+Sabat)
  • Bitch Voice (-Soye, Who's heard him?)
  • Vindictive little bitch (+Sabat)
Who the fuck is geekdom? some random youtuber that worked with RT at some point?
I dunno, I feel like Igor is Schemmel. He seems like someone who's pretty easy to whip up into a frenzy if you know how to play himself against himself, plus as Ty said they all fucking hate each other and so far the only thing that keeps them together is their mutual hatred of genuine people. I think the reason they hate their fans is that because on some subconscious level they realize they don't deserve this adulation, that they're horrible disgusting monsters and there's nothing they're doing to fix it.

Of course knowing the average fan of anime, maybe Occam's Razor is better suited: that those fans are like shrieking koalas with that horrid stench koalas are known to have. Vic is a goddamned Saint for loving them.
 
If you listen closely to what Ty says when he starts talking about Iago he says three lines that should be paid close attention. First is that he says iago is not working for any of the studios. Second Iago has influence in these cons. Third he has bragged about his money on the social media.

After reading through posts from you guys i can 99 percent affirm that Iago is geekdom. He doesn't work for studios check. He has influence in cons check. He has bragged about his money checked.

Chris sabat works for at least one if not both the studio involved cross. Chris Sabat has some influence in cons check. Chris sabat has bragged about his money Unknown.

What do you guys think? ?
I think there is the faint aroma of Sockpuppetry coming from your post.

Joined today after Rekeita stream
first post trying to convince its totally not Sabbat.

I may be wrong as its really early AM and i need sleep, but your posts give off the odor of dirty socks and misdirection.
 
I wonder if/when any of the pawns who got suckered into this are going to realize they've been used as meat puppets for someone else's scheme and then cast aside like trash.

is the top portion blue? if so then it is most certainly a demilled/training grenade.

I believe he said it was live during his last appearance on Nick's show.
 
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