Social Justice Warriors - Now With Less Feminism Sperging

Fat Pikachu said:
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Guys did you know that uhhh if we don't pass the green new deal the whole world will look like Fallout in just over a decade? Some dumbass kid thinks it's true so we should do whatever theh want
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I am 100% ready for Fallout 4, IRL; first order of business is securing helicopters and fuel, so that society can be relieved of it's parasitic burdens.

Eventually, the fuel pays for itself.
 
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Cho Chan said:
You have a point, but I still think that it's a little different. You have a major fuck up on the road? 15-20 lives, cleaned up in a day. A plane crash? 200 lives, probably cleaned up in a few days. But one nuclear reactor fuck up could have ramifications for centuries.
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Look up thorium reactors my dude. You legitimately have no idea how much safer modern reactors can be. I’m not even dissing you because I was shocked how much safer they are.
 
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Steamboat_Bill said:
If the Earth gets a degree hotter that's still not a good thing. The worst effects are a long way down the road, true, but are we just going to wait and see if the worst pans out or take action to make sure it never happens at all?
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The earth WILL get at least a degree hotter, even if we cut human CO2 emissions to 0. There's nothing wrong with planning for the slightly warmer future that appears to be coming.

The problem is, the pro global warming people are saying it will increase much more in much less time, creating huge disasters, and that if we change some rules, we will avoid that.

If I say to you, give me a billion dollars every year, and I'll make some policy recommendations based on a theory I have, because my theory says if you don't, the world will be uninhabitable in 3 years, would you do it? What, are you just gonna wait and see if the world is uninhabitable once it's too late? Wouldn't it be safer to just give me the billion dollars? That's literally pascal's wager, just with environmentalism instead of religion.

It sort of sounds like you actually don't believe the climate change theory if you think 1 degree of warming in the next 60 years is a strong possibility, because that IS NOT what they are saying. So if that did happen, it would show global warming theory to be completely wrong. YOU are a climate change (theory) denier if you believe that is likely.

That's sort of the problem. People give it so much leeway. It's a scientific theory that makes specific predictions. Those predictions have been completely wrong, every time. Those predictions predict a certain amount of warming, not just any amount of change, or no change. But because it's been made so political and you're either a "denier" or a "supporter".

Ever heard of "Global LukeWarming"? Many of the 97% of scientists that always get brought as "believing in manmade climate change" think there will be very slight warming that will not be a disaster and even improve some things, and that changing any policy would be more devastating than the problem it's supposed to fix.

In my experience, when I talk to people about climate change and saying it's fake, what they hear is "Environmental policy is pointless" which is not the case. But "green" and "climate change" are tied together in most people's minds. Most people don't even know the first thing about what climate change theory even is, or what it's predicting. It's just another battle in the political game.

Anyway, that's my ranting about climate change quota for the week.
 
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Scientists that aren't quacks believe that the most likely scenario is that warming is curbed at 4° Celsius. So we will see some effects but not the doomsday people are trying to scare you with. I've said it before though, and it's still true: the error bars on these equations are miles wide. Nobody can predict the future for sure. For all we know we might accidentally kick off the next ice age in 11 years. It's not worth talking about if you're just trying to make people hopeless about what's to come because they won't do anything about it if you tell them the end of the world is tomorrow.
 
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Seeing someone I'm friends with do that white supremacy workbook for four weeks was the most cringey shit I've probably ever seen.
ATaxingWoman said:
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Ahahahahahaha

By the way, this guy has a book published by Duke University press and teaches at the university of Minnesota
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One of the shittiest things this shitty movement does to history and anthropology: recasting the role of various "third sexes." Usually that's just gay men who prefer receptive sex, and they have usually been treated like dogshit by societies who have the category. Not surprising, since the whole point of having a category like that is to make sure no one confuses guys who like to get fucked in the ass with, you know, real men, the kind who either don't like buttfucking or prefer doing the fucking to being the fuckee. Having that sex act remove you from the ranks of men entirely if it's what you prefer seems fucked up to me, but I digress.

Anyway, now, we should apparently look to ancient homophobes to tell us how the fuck to run a modern LGBT movement, and society in general, too, while we're at it.

China totally didn't have any concept of biological sex until those colonialist white people. They just chose a random half of the population at birth to have their feet broken and bound. How did they pick which half of the able-bodied adult population was sticking around in the camps and which half was going out on hunting trips in Native American tribes? Probably a coin flip.

The amount of actual history (and the thought that could emerge from it...actually thinking about third sexes in terms of how they shunted off gay populations is interesting work, but no one's going to touch it with a ten-foot pole now) that is dismissed out of hand to make a political point is Maoist in scope. This is becoming very troubling.
 
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The article is old, so I'm posting it here instead of in the tranny news thread https://thespinoff.co.nz/parenting/04-07-2018/im-pregnant-and-im-going-to-be-a-dad/
I’m pregnant and I’m going to be a dad

Scout Barbour-Evans is pregnant and will be a dad. Here at The Spinoff Parents they share what it has been like so far.

I am a boy. A pregnant boy. There is a foetus in my uterus.

Yes, that’s possible.

It was a planned pregnancy. I’ve desperately wanted to have a child since I was tiny, and I’ve known it was my calling that long too. I’m finally at a point in my life where it’s actually a sensible move to get on with it – my degree should be complete at the end of next year, the new government is a bit less determined to push young whānau into poverty than the last one was, my jobs and my classes are pēpi and whānau friendly, I’m desperate to get a hysterectomy and move into the next step of my transition… I mean, mostly I just really like the smell of newborn babies.

I will be called Pāpā, even though that’s a name usually reserved for a non-birthing parent. This news does not mean I’ve finished my transition, and it does not mean I’m not a boy anymore. It just means I’m going to birth a baby. And then I might grow my beard out.

Pregnancy is understandably, but frustratingly gendered. I am cared for by a midwife, if home birthing doesn’t work out I’ll be on a maternity ward, every piece of literature about pregnancy calls me a mum, the baby bump is causing even more people to call me ma’am, my child’s birth certificate will call me the mother, and even the legal paperwork calls me “the woman”. Because usually, the majority of people who get pregnant identify as female – and, well, the second question from most people I’ve told about my pregnancy so far has been “but I didn’t think that was possible!”.

Apparently everyone thinks testosterone makes you automatically permanently infertile, which is just not how that works. (If you’re on testosterone and sexually active with a person producing sperm, you can still get pregnant and still need to use condoms!)

But it gets worse. Because I used a sperm donor and the first question everybody has asked, before their disbelief, has been “cool, who’s the dad?” Insert side-eyes emoji here.

“Hey, I have some news! I’m pregnant!”

“Oh cool! Who’s the dad?”

“Me, I’m the dad.”

“Haha no, you know what I mean, the real dad.”

“…..me. I’m the real dad.”

In other words, my pregnancy has become another excuse for the people around me to deny my gender exists in the same breath as they preach acceptance and allyship. Which, frankly, sucks, and I shouldn’t need to say it but it is the total opposite of allyship.

And one of the biggest frustrations has been trying to determine whether I can have a gender marker which isn’t…lying, but still gives me access to pregnancy services like ultrasounds, blood tests, emergency care for my hyperemesis gravidarum, and hospital care if my home birth plans don’t go as scheduled.

I discovered last year when getting iron infusions that you can’t get a special authority on medications if your gender marker (your NHI allows for either male, female or indeterminate) is set at indeterminate because PHARMAC still don’t recognise it. I wanted to change my marker to male then and there so I wasn’t forced into lying but my GP set it to female and then it became a whole thing because I started doing the administrative work to start getting pregnant, and my goodness this shouldn’t be so complicated!

I’m not presently aware of what my NHI gender is marked down as, but I think a triage nurse in ED recently might have set it to male. I can’t remember, I was a little out of it from puking all day. I really wish every single day that when you change your gender marker in one government department, it just changes across the board and doesn’t create barriers to access.

There’s a movement in countries like the United States which aims to make pregnancy-care less gendered and more welcoming for transgender men and non-binary folk with uteruses. In some states or cities it’s helping, but in many situations over there insurance companies deny trans men coverage for smear tests based on gender markers, let alone pregnancy-care.

New Zealand’s heavily imperfect, but I’m actually pretty grateful I won’t get a $100,000 bill for giving birth. I’d love to see more education and awareness for our health professionals who work with transgender people and pregnant people. While I’m enjoying researching and learning as a collaboration alongside my own medical team (this week: can you chest feed while on testosterone?), it would be nice if I weren’t having to do so much work on the medical side myself.

I’m hoping the next pregnant dude in New Zealand won’t need to.

But my doctors and midwife are all incredible and my friends and whānau are too. With their support, despite hyperemesis, at 17 weeks I’ve nearly got all the shopping sorted and have moved onto making! This year I’ll be getting the most marvellous Christmas present of my entire life. My whānau are so excited that my mum sends me links to changing tables or baby baths on TradeMe at 5am…..every, single, morning, and honestly? I really, really just cannot wait.

This is what’s right for me.

I’m gonna be a Pāpā, to what already feels like one of the most well-loved tamariki in the world.

Scout Barbour-Evans is a takatāpui and transmasculine boy living in Dunedin. In their spare time they’re a student at Otago Polytechnic, or a volunteer for one of several organisations. For the remainder of their time they are working tirelessly to start their little whānau in a safe, futureproofed environment.
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One thing that I've noticed troons like to do is that they love to infantilize themselves. Instead of calling themselves "trans women" or "trans men", a lot of them prefer to refer to themselves as "trans girls" or "trans boys" even if they're grown adults and have been for years. It's like they want to be perpetual adolescents.
Abortions4All said:
Seeing someone I'm friends with do that white supremacy workbook for four weeks was the most cringey shit I've probably ever seen.
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Why, what did they do?
 
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ATaxingWoman said:
The article is old, so I'm posting it here instead of in the tranny news thread https://thespinoff.co.nz/parenting/04-07-2018/im-pregnant-and-im-going-to-be-a-dad/One thing that I've noticed troons like to do is that they love to infantilize themselves. Instead of calling themselves "trans women" or "trans men", a lot of them prefer to refer to themselves as "trans girls" or "trans boys" even if they're grown adults and have been for years. It's like they want to be perpetual adolescents.Why, what did they do?
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I can't think of anything more dysphoria inducing for an actual trans man than having to go through a pregnancy and all that it entails, so pretty sure OP is a trender.
Abortions4All said:
Seeing someone I'm friends with do that white supremacy workbook for four weeks was the most cringey shit I've probably ever seen.
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Tell us more.
 
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Abortions4All said:
Seeing someone I'm friends with do that white supremacy workbook for four weeks was the most cringey shit I've probably ever seen.


One of the shittiest things this shitty movement does to history and anthropology: recasting the role of various "third sexes." Usually that's just gay men who prefer receptive sex, and they have usually been treated like dogshit by societies who have the category. Not surprising, since the whole point of having a category like that is to make sure no one confuses guys who like to get fucked in the ass with, you know, real men, the kind who either don't like buttfucking or prefer doing the fucking to being the fuckee. Having that sex act remove you from the ranks of men entirely if it's what you prefer seems fucked up to me, but I digress.

Anyway, now, we should apparently look to ancient homophobes to tell us how the fuck to run a modern LGBT movement, and society in general, too, while we're at it.

China totally didn't have any concept of biological sex until those colonialist white people. They just chose a random half of the population at birth to have their feet broken and bound. How did they pick which half of the able-bodied adult population was sticking around in the camps and which half was going out on hunting trips in Native American tribes? Probably a coin flip.

The amount of actual history (and the thought that could emerge from it...actually thinking about third sexes in terms of how they shunted off gay populations is interesting work, but no one's going to touch it with a ten-foot pole now) that is dismissed out of hand to make a political point is Maoist in scope. This is becoming very troubling.
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Or the third genders were men who were eunuchs, either due to an accident or by force, or some weird religious reason. Or they were a feminine guy or a tomboy or a lesbian.

Funny enough, the ancient societies that these people talk up being so accepting tended to have ridiculously strict gender roles, to the point where if someone deviated from the norm even slightly they weren't considered a real man or woman.

I find it almost ironic, but then I remember the dipshits who think this also think Ancient Greece was a paradise for gay people and not an insanely homophobic one where pedastry was completely normalized and sexual abuse of young students was rampant.
 
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scathefire said:
What's the difference between then and now? It's the same reasoning of "if you differ from a gender role even slightly, then you are trans and not a normal man or woman".
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I feel like that's only really the mindset in hyper-progressive circles and places like tumblr. In normal society with, you know, normal people, if a dude likes to mess around with makeup or something people are gonna think he's probably gay but not trans.

Same with a girl who plays football. It's not something that girls tend to do, but I don't think regular people would think she wants to be a man just because she likes a manly hobby.
 
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madethistocomment said:
I feel like that's only really the mindset in hyper-progressive circles and places like tumblr. In normal society with, you know, normal people, if a dude likes to mess around with makeup or something people are gonna think he's probably gay but not trans.

Same with a girl who plays football. It's not something that girls tend to do, but I don't think regular people would think she wants to be a man just because she likes a manly hobby.
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I'm aware that it's not a normal or particularly widespread mindset, the interesting part is how well the progressive third gender concept fits into historical ideas of what a third gender constitutes
 
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99.99 percent of people aren't going to laugh at a rape victim. what world are you living in.
 
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Gingervitis said:
I mean, I had Chick-Fil-A yesterday out of spite after reading this thread. Surprisingly good. 10/10 would literally murder a faggot again.
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They put a Chick-Fil-A in a mall nearby recently and every time someone goes there instead of Popeyes, my entire family of vulnerable minorities all started spontaneously bleeding from our backs in a holy stigmata that looked like Hilary Clinton.
 
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