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1. Yes, you can see this in how economic libertarians simultaneously pretend we exist in a free market, leading to conclusions like "poor people are poor because they're lazy and deserve it, rich people are rich because they're clever and innovative" while endlessly whining about thousands of examples of how the government manipulates the market. You'd think after complaining about government involvement in the free market for the 5903th time it might occur to them that we're not in one. Their excuse on why they're getting their ass kicked by big tech is "the government somehow made this happen", as if the entire economy isn't already the government's making.
Amusingly, I've yet to see any notable libertarians say any of the things you claim them to.

So that's already a massive strawman.

2. This isn't a political stance, it's an observation.
It is technically an "observation"...in the same manner that hallucinations are "observations".

3. The vast majority of the plebian class literally beg for the rich and the elite to exploit and oppress them. Or more accurately, do it to the other members of the plebian class because they assume the elite class wlil always be backing them. So yes, they deserve this, and any strategy that relies on the plebian class to care about the rights of anyone other than themselves is doomed to fail. The elite class do this as well of course, but they benefit from it so it's actually an intelligent decision for them.
Wait what?

Who does this? What do you even mean by this?

I have never heard of any "plebian" (it's actually plebeian, by the way) assuming that the elites will perpetually back them. Similarly, I find it relatively very rare for a "plebian" to go out of their way to exploit and "oppress" other "plebians".

Libertarians are just gib me dats except they're trust fund bums instead of welfare bums.
Being a trust fund bum is still better than being a welfare bum.
 
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Hey, you wanna' know something interesting? Trump is connected to the mafia in New York City. In the sense that he worked as an informant and helped destroy the 'family' being led by Nicky Scarfo in 1985. In October of 2018, the FBI quietly released two files on the fall of Nicky Scarfo. Not too fascinating in and of itself, but I couldn't help but take an interest in page 223 of part 1:



On pages 49-50 of Part 2, you can find a reference to a source expressing 'grave concern over the corruption in the [REDACTED] area'. On page 76, there is reference to a source providing information about an employee in Atlantic City.

Given that Donald Trump had started purchasing properties along the Atlantic City boardwalk as early as 1980, had opened Trump's World Fair on April 14, 1981 and received a casino license on March 15, 1982, the timeline that starts with the original FBI memo where-in Trump offered to to work as an informant and the subsequent downfall of Scarfo, is entirely consistent with Trump and his people very likely assisting the FBI.

Maybe it's just a weird coincidence, but that's not the only one. Do you know who led the Mafia Commission prosecution? Rudy Giuliani. Who led the Gambino prosecution? Robert Mueller, who was the USAG for the DOJ Criminal Division between 1990-1993. Who was working for Mueller at the DOJ, during this time? Rod Rosenstein. And who was the Deputy Attorney General between May of 1990 and the 26th of November, 1992, before becoming the Attorney-General?

William Barr.

And that's all without having to even get into all the Bayrock & Sater stuff. There's a lot of very strange, interesting stories littered all over the place in Trump's past if anyone's willing to look at it without wearing Coke-bottle-thick partisan glasses in the process. It's a shame that more reporters out there aren't willing to dig these kinds of things out of the filing cabinets, because there's a lot of these, but nobody ever bothers to write about them.
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Curiously enough, the FBI Vault just released more documentation today about the same thing I was rambling about up there.

Somewhere near the end of the document (135-149) is a redacted FD302 from an interview conducted in New York on June 11th, 1985, accompanied by a subpoena to the FD302 interviewee dated November 4th, 1985, issued by the US Attorney for SDNY, Rudy Giuliani.
The law firm accepting the subpoena is Dreyer & Train, one of the Trump Organization's top firms at the time.

Translated from Boring: It's a subpoena for Trump to testify about his FD302 before a Grand Jury, during Giuliani's takedown of the Five Families (Mafia Commission).

The next interesting part is around pages 142-149. An FD302 from June 28th ,1989, from the Philadelphia FBI Office, recording a redacted person voluntarily appearing and being provided with "the identity of the contacting agents and the nature of the inquiry concerning [REDACTED] provided the following information:" That timeline would sync it up around the same time as the investigation into John Gotti. By 1989, the FBI was listening in on Gotti. Their first raid was in December of 1990 and Gotti went down in April 1992 on racketeering and murder charges.

I'll bet you dollars to donuts that redacted person was Donald Trump. He was the only casino owner in Atlantic City that the mob never shook down, and he was completely immune to the mob's concrete industry operation in New York. The mob ran the concrete industry in New York in the 1980s and they demanded a cut from everyone who built. Donald Trump never paid, and the mob never shut down his construction sites, and then just a few years later the Five Families went away.

How many people do you think will realize that this would mean Trump's been an FBI informant for over three decades, or for that matter, what that actually implies?
 
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As a Libuhtarian, I hope the age of consent can be the age that Kim Kardashian was when her father saved OJ.
You mean 14 or 15?

I'll bet you dollars to donuts that redacted person was Donald Trump. He was the only casino owner in Atlantic City that the mob never shook down, and he was completely immune to the mob's concrete industry operation in New York. The mob ran the concrete industry in New York in the 1980s and they demanded a cut from everyone who built. Donald Trump never paid, and the mob never shut down his construction sites, and then just a few years later the Five Families went away.
Is...

...is Donald John Trump Senior legitimately eternal?

Is he legitimately protected by divine providence?

Like...

...I don't get it.

How can one man continuously keep winning for all this time?
 
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I'll bet you dollars to donuts that redacted person was Donald Trump. He was the only casino owner in Atlantic City that the mob never shook down, and he was completely immune to the mob's concrete industry operation in New York. The mob ran the concrete industry in New York in the 1980s and they demanded a cut from everyone who built. Donald Trump never paid, and the mob never shut down his construction sites, and then just a few years later the Five Families went away.

How many people do you think will realize that this would mean Trump's been an FBI informant for over three decades?

More importantly, Trump not only fought the entire mob on their home turf, he won. He is the closest thing the real world will ever have to batman. If the fucking mob couldn't take down Trump when he was a private citizen, what do the glow in the dark CIA niggers think they'll be able to do to him as President? They should be shitting themselves. Trump is not a merciful guy, especially after you threaten his family.
 
More importantly, Trump not only fought the entire mob on their home turf, he won. He is the closest thing the real world will ever have to batman. If the fucking mob couldn't take down Trump when he was a private citizen, what do the glow in the dark CIA niggers think they'll be able to do to him as President? They should be shitting themselves. Trump is not a merciful guy, especially after you threaten his family.

His only losses are his bankruptcies....the very few he's had. 6 out of many successful ventures.


What the fuck is up with this guy? Why is he so fucking cool? He's like the ultimate madlad.
 
More importantly, Trump not only fought the entire mob on their home turf, he won. He is the closest thing the real world will ever have to batman. If the fucking mob couldn't take down Trump when he was a private citizen, what do the glow in the dark CIA niggers think they'll be able to do to him as President? They should be shitting themselves. Trump is not a merciful guy, especially after you threaten his family.
 
1. Yes, you can see this in how economic libertarians simultaneously pretend we exist in a free market, leading to conclusions like "poor people are poor because they're lazy and deserve it, rich people are rich because they're clever and innovative" while endlessly whining about thousands of examples of how the government manipulates the market. You'd think after complaining about government involvement in the free market for the 5903th time it might occur to them that we're not in one. Their excuse on why they're getting their ass kicked by big tech is "the government somehow made this happen", as if the entire economy isn't already the government's making.

As for social libertarians, they love freedom but they hate actually doing anything to protect it. They also love to obstruct the few libertarians who actually have the sense to try and fight back. And after bending over and giving up everyone's freedom, they'll stand on a podium and lecture everyone on how important freedom is.

2. This isn't a political stance, it's an observation.

3. The vast majority of the plebian class literally beg for the rich and the elite to exploit and oppress them. Or more accurately, do it to the other members of the plebian class because they assume the elite class wlil always be backing them. So yes, they deserve this, and any strategy that relies on the plebian class to care about the rights of anyone other than themselves is doomed to fail. The elite class do this as well of course, but they benefit from it so it's actually an intelligent decision for them.

You know, you don't have to keep hijacking this thread. If you're really hurting for attention, we can set you up with your own.
 
You know, you don't have to keep hijacking this thread. If you're really hurting for attention, we can set you up with your own.

But he's like an OG member of this site. He joined in Feb 2013. That would be cruel.

Fuck I'm posting way too much on this thread. Got a lotta shit to say. I dunno, just do.
 
1. Nothing can be truly free, but we do live in a relatively monopolized economy where you could make money through distribution across several different companies. A "free market" means a market that you could pitch in and distribute your ideas through subsidiaries and bigger assets, where you'll either be accepted or rejected depending on how well you market yourself. So there's leeway, but not much. The government does control the economy...indirectly. I mean, after all, governmental rule is what inspires economies.

2. Bad observation. I'm a black guy. These aren't neo-nazis. I would know.

3. The plebians don't beg the rich to oppress and exploit them, unless they are completely vulnerable. The thing is, most people don't notice that they are being taken advantage of. They just passively accept it, because they think "fuck, that's life". They're not asking for it, they just don't notice. Most plebians HATE rich people, but they passively accept that "LUL, THEY CONTROL THE WORLD. WHAT CAN I DO ABOUT?", so yeah. It's only because they're so vulnerable and they just don't care and the fact that most people in this world are stupid that they get taken advantage of, they're not asking for it. Saying they are asking for it, speaks loud coming from the words of a manipulator of the masses.

  1. Our politicians literally do insider trading based on the policies that they pass and big business actively meddles in politics. Trump can impact the stock market through his tweets alone. Our economy and government are extremely closely entwined.
  2. So I must have been imagining all of those people in the NZ shooting thread going "Brenton was a hero"?
  3. From what I've seen, most people don't really care about being exploited or manipulated. Libertarian-types support it because they worship corporations, authoritarian leftist types support it because they're on the right side of it, and the authoritarian right are literally Nazis.

1). We have a personal accountability problem in the United States. It's one thing to say that it may be impossible to become apart of the top 1%, but if you want to join the middle class all you need to to is follow three steps which include finishing high school, getting a full-time job, and to wait until you're at least 21 years old to get married and start having children. Of the adults who follow these rules, only 2% are in poverty and 75% are in the middle class earning around $55,000 or more per year.

Source: https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/...teens-should-follow-to-join-the-middle-class/

2). Well it's a blatantly wrong observation. There are people of various political leanings here and we don't really discriminate against anyone's views unless they are unanimously decided to be exceptional.

3). This take is actually somewhat agreeable, but you're wrong about it being the vast majority of people. Also, corporations will always be largely seen as insignificant when compared to the Government as you can just stop supporting a tyrannical business. Of course that is only if they aren't unique in what they are providing.

  1. The world and the economy isn't the same as it used to be. That study uses statistics from older people who enjoyed a much longer period of growth and prosperity than the younger generations. In the past you could support a family, buy a house, get married, and raise kids on minimum wage, and having a degree was optional but guaranteed that you'd get a lucrative job. Now, a degree is the minimum requirement, and the price of that degree of diminishing value has grown exponentially, the price of housing has grown exponentially, the price of healthcare has grown exponentially, and wages have not kept up. The wealth is becoming increasingly concentrated in the upper classes, the population is unnaturally forced to increase, and the cost of vital goods continues to grow much faster than both inflation and wages. Unfortunately the average plebian grandpa doesn't understand that the economy isn't the same anymore, as he is still having trouble comprehending basic concepts like inflation.
  2. Corporations have influence in industries and aspects of societies that are far outside of their own sectors. You can see this in how the housing bubble crashed everything. And big tech's influence on virtually every industry will continue to grow as the internet gains prominence, not that I expect your conservative grandpa to understand that.
 
  1. Our politicians literally do insider trading based on the policies that they pass and big business actively meddles in politics. Trump can impact the stock market through his tweets alone. Our economy and government are extremely closely entwined.
  2. So I must have been imagining all of those people in the NZ shooting thread going "Brenton was a hero"?
  3. From what I've seen, most people don't really care about being exploited or manipulated. Libertarian-types support it because they worship corporations, authoritarian leftist types support it because they're on the right side of it, and the authoritarian right are literally Nazis.

Goddamnit, I'm posting too much.

1. I'm aware of that...but I don't think Trump can impact stocks through his tweets unless he's specifically shitting on trade, but that's whatever.

2. Bruh. Majorily this is a shitposting website, but also sort of an informative one as well. You're taking a joke too seriously...and just because they said that in referential as a joke doesn't mean they are Neo-Nazis, nor the Brenton dude wasn't even a Neo-Nazi, so I dunno what the fuck you are talking about.

3. Alright...that's just the way things work. That's what they believe, that's what they are inclined to believe, and I don't fucking care.
 
2. Bruh. Majorily this is a shitposting website, but also sort of an informative one as well. You're taking a joke too seriously...and just because they said that in referential as a joke doesn't mean they are Neo-Nazis, nor the Brenton dude wasn't even a Neo-Nazi, so I dunno what the fuck you are talking about.

"Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company."
 
"Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company."

But this site makes sure to Halal these idiots, such as yourself.

You joined this site in 2013. Have you forgotten what makes this sacred place so pure?
 
Ah yes, 2013. Trump wasn't president, Kiwifarms was known as Cwckiforums, I haven't heard of SJWs yet, and we weren't flooded with neo-nazis. Good times, wish we could go back.

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Why do you stay here if you're so opposed to all the supposed "Neo-Nazis" that have apparently "flooded" this place?

In fact, who are these supposed "Neo-Nazis" anyway?
 
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