I'll bet you dollars to donuts that redacted person was Donald Trump. He was the only casino owner in Atlantic City that the mob never shook down, and he was completely immune to the mob's concrete industry operation in New York. The mob ran the concrete industry in New York in the 1980s and they demanded a cut from everyone who built. Donald Trump never paid, and the mob never shut down his construction sites, and then just a few years later the Five Families went away.
It was literally briefly mentioned in the prologue of The Making of the President 2016 by Roger Stone. Within three pages of opening the book, he brings it up that he bought concrete from the mob.
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It's true that as a New York developer, Donald Trump bought concrete from a mob-connected company controlled by Salerno. On the other hand, the State of New York, the City of New York, and most major developers bought their concrete there as well, the reason being their excellent union relationships. The company had a virtual monopoly on concrete, with the state and federal government among their biggest customers. The company was properly licensed to do business in New York State.
In 1989, Trump was supposed to take a helicopter to Atlantic City with his executives, Steve Hyde and Mark Etess, but Roger Stone convinced him over the phone to wait for him to get over there, and the executives were sent on ahead. The helicopter crashed in the pinelands and everyone onboard was killed. Possible huge coincidence for all we know, but Stone (according to what he wrote in the book TheMaking of the President 2016) knew at that moment Trump was destined for something great in his life.
As a religious person who believes some people were preordained for greatness, I highly believe Trump is protected by divine providence. But more likely he's just a very lucky man.
Hitler worship is gay but Benton did nothing wrong other than referencing Pewdiepie and Sam Hyde. You could mistake this forum for being full of Neonazis if you never had to interact with any. Go to Gab for that. Neonazis hate Trump for instance.
Ah yes, 2013. Trump wasn't president, Kiwifarms was known as Cwckiforums, I haven't heard of SJWs yet, and we weren't flooded with neo-nazis. Good times, wish we could go back.
Look dude, I’ll grant you that maybe we’ve been a bit more eager to dox, and maybe widened our definition of “lolcow” a bit, but to jump straight to “neo-Nazi” instead of “dumb shitposters” is a bit extreme. It’s not hard to just not go to/ignore threads you don’t agree with.
Ah yes, 2013. Trump wasn't president, Kiwifarms was known as Cwckiforums, I haven't heard of SJWs yet, and we weren't flooded with neo-nazis. Good times, wish we could go back.
As someone who has infiltrated retarded neo-nazi groups on Steam and Discord before I can safely say that the vast majority of people here aren't neo-nazis, and honestly who cares if there are any? They are typically very paranoid people without many friends who are just latching onto Nazism in order to bond with other people over a mutual ideology. They don't like seeing different opinions, and I don't think they would like a majority of the people here.
Hitler worship is gay but Benton did nothing wrong other than referencing Pewdiepie and Sam Hyde. You could mistake this forum for being full of Neonazis if you never had to interact with any. Go to Gab for that. Neonazis hate Trump for instance.
That's what I honestly find most amusing about TDS types. They accuse anyone on the right, right of center field or even right of Stalin to be neo-nazis when in fact neo-nazis spend just as much time bitching about Trump as the left and TDS folks. Either whining about him being a mutt president of a mutt country or him being a golem puppet of the (((elders of zion))) out to destroy the white race.
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You wouldn't be able to tell them apart from the liberal or commie extremists if not for their constant bitching about jews.
There is basically no semi-organized group in existence that likes Trump.
Republicans? Hell no, the establishment hates him because he is just not respectable.
Neo-Nazis? They think he is a slave to Israel because he is best buds with Netanyahu.
The only people that like him are people who like watching him cause all sorts of brains to explode. Luckily for Trump 2020, that happens to be a lot of people who are looked down on for not having the correct, sophisticated opinions.
President Donald Trump said Tuesday he'll appoint Oscar-winning actor Jon Voight to the board of trustees of the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts for the remainder of a six-year-term to end in September of 2024.
The actor known for TV roles in hit shows like Ray Donovan and 24 — and for his real-life role as Angelina Jolie's father — is one of the most outspoken conservatives in Hollywood and he hasn't shied from his support of Trump.
A former liberal who said he was traumatized by the assassination of President Kennedy, Voight was a critic of President Barack Obama and was a staple at events hosted by Friends of Abe before the private group of 2,500 conservatives who work in Hollywood largely disbanded a few years ago.
Voight won an Oscar playing opposite Jane Fonda in the 1978 anti-Vietnam War movie, Coming Home.
Trump also said Tuesday he'll nominate former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, whose daughter is White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, as a trustee to the same board.
Others he will nominate are Carl Lindner III of Ohio, Marc Stern and Kelly Roberts of California, Kelcy Warren and Heather Washburne of Texas, Adrienne Arsht of the District of Columbia and Karen Tucker LeFrak and Daryl Roth of New York.
The Kennedy Center, opened in 1971, is the country's National Cultural Center and it is located adjacent to the Watergate complex on the Potomac River in Washington, D.C.
The board of trustees includes a variety of government officials, such as the librarian of Congress and the secretary of Health and Human Services, and the first lady is considered the honorary chair while 36 general trustees are appointed by the president.
Ah yes, 2013. Trump wasn't president, Kiwifarms was known as Cwckiforums, I haven't heard of SJWs yet, and we weren't flooded with neo-nazis. Good times, wish we could go back.
The rank and file GOP love Trump more than any GOP president in memory. The leadership is another story but even that has changed strongly compared to 2016.
The rank and file GOP love Trump more than any GOP president in memory. The leadership is another story but even that has changed strongly compared to 2016.
You are right about the rank and file, I should have been more specific. However, I would say that the only reason that the establishment GOP is warming up to Trump is because they know that if they do not, they will feel the pain at the ballot box from the base.
I mean does anyone honestly think someone like Lindsey Graham, known McCain pal, actually likes Trump? How about Ted Cruz, who has basically become Trump Lite? No, it's because they know that supporting Trump is how you drive turnout from the base.
You are right about the rank and file, I should have been more specific. However, I would say that the only reason that the establishment GOP is warming up to Trump is because they know that if they do not, they will feel the pain at the ballot box from the base.
I mean does anyone honestly think someone like Lindsey Graham, known McCain pal, actually likes Trump? How about Ted Cruz, who has basically become Trump Lite? No, it's because they know that supporting Trump is how you drive turnout from the base.
Graham did a 180 on Trump since McCain died, makes me suspect that McCain had some influence over him. Some GOPers arent dumb amd understand what a disaster openly opposing Trump would be. Others are outright snakes and would sink the party to get rid of Trump. Paul Ryan being one that comes to mind.
Graham did a 180 on Trump since McCain died, makes me suspect that McCain had some influence over him. Some GOPers arent dumb amd understand what a disaster openly opposing Trump would be. Others are outright snakes and would sink the party to get rid of Trump. Paul Ryan being one that comes to mind.
1. Yes, you can see this in how economic libertarians simultaneously pretend we exist in a free market, leading to conclusions like "poor people are poor because they're lazy and deserve it, rich people are rich because they're clever and innovative" while endlessly whining about thousands of examples of how the government manipulates the market. You'd think after complaining about government involvement in the free market for the 5903th time it might occur to them that we're not in one. Their excuse on why they're getting their ass kicked by big tech is "the government somehow made this happen", as if the entire economy isn't already the government's making.
As for social libertarians, they love freedom but they hate actually doing anything to protect it. They also love to obstruct the few libertarians who actually have the sense to try and fight back. And after bending over and giving up everyone's freedom, they'll stand on a podium and lecture everyone on how important freedom is.
2. This isn't a political stance, it's an observation.
3. The vast majority of the plebian class literally beg for the rich and the elite to exploit and oppress them. Or more accurately, do it to the other members of the plebian class because they assume the elite class wlil always be backing them. So yes, they deserve this, and any strategy that relies on the plebian class to care about the rights of anyone other than themselves is doomed to fail. The elite class do this as well of course, but they benefit from it so it's actually an intelligent decision for them.
Is this a sort of "the freer the markets the freer the people" argument? Are you saying corporations if left to their own devices would play fair, not interfere and not attempt to erode government regulations in order to increase profit projections and market share? They wouldn't attempt to strangulate or buy out potential competitors?
Is this a sort of "the freer the markets the freer the people" argument? Are you saying corporations if left to their own devices would play fair, not interfere and not attempt to erode government regulations in order to increase profit projections and market share? They wouldn't attempt to strangulate or buy out potential competitors?
Well what he's suggesting I assume is a completely free market. Where the Government is completely hands off, which I would assume would be China on steroids.
Bankruptcy is a legitimate business tactic that businesspeople use in order to protect their personal assets from failed business ventures, because if investors pull out of a business that didn't take off (maybe you read the market wrong, maybe its the wrong timing etc etc), the business doesn't just go to 0, it goes into negatives. Almost every single big entrepreneur has a few bankruptcies under their belts.
Well what he's suggesting I assume is a completely free market. Where the Government is completely hands off, which I would assume would be China on steroids.
China is a centrally planned economy, with the odd feature of the central planners allowing certain business to happen as long as results are produced. To say they're a completely free market is incorrect because they only exist to enrich the Party and the government.
Bankruptcy is a legitimate business tactic that businesspeople use in order to protect their personal assets from failed business ventures, because if investors pull out of a business that didn't take off (maybe you read the market wrong, maybe its the wrong timing etc etc), the business doesn't just go to 0, it goes into negatives. Almost every single big entrepreneur has a few bankruptcies under their belts.
To look at Trump's bankruptcies as failure is both technically correct and wrong at the same time, since the majority of businesses don't succeed but Trump does have many many more successful companies and brands. So sure Trump has failed but he's succeeded much more than not. I would like to see the people that attack him over the bankruptcies create a successful (1 year in the green should be a low enough bar) company.
Look dude, I’ll grant you that maybe we’ve been a bit more eager to dox, and maybe widened our definition of “lolcow” a bit, but to jump straight to “neo-Nazi” instead of “dumb shitposters” is a bit extreme. It’s not hard to just not go to/ignore threads you don’t agree with.
And HE didn't go bankrupt, the projects went bankrupt. If you look at the Bankruptcies, in all but (IIRC) two cases, the businesses were all profitable at the time, but they weren't profitable enough to pay back investors at the initially agreed rates.
In any case, all of the bankruptcies were settled by Trump giving the investors a larger stake in the projects to settle the debt, sometimes just a few extra percentage points - you don't take that sort of deal if an investment property is toxic & hemorrhaging money.
If you're wondering why he didn't just give the investors a higher percentage, sometimes you have to do circuitous horseshit that seems pointless but does serve a purpose in assigning and keeping liability.
I had a friend who lived in a multi-story condo unit, and there was a problem with the wall in the garage. The builder sent someone to inspect it, said "Yeah, that's our fault, we didn't backfill enough" but still required the HOA to sue them to get it fixed. They quickly settled out of court & paid the legal fees of the HOA.
This was for two reasons: First was that what the only way their business insurance would pay out. The second was to set a legally binding hard limit on the builder's liability, and what the builder was required to do to meet it (which is why their insurance required it)
It would have saved everyone time and the lawyer & court fees for the builder to have just come out and fixed it, but jumping through the hoops made sure everything was filed and no one could try to squeeze the other.
tl;dr None of Trump's properties that went into Bankruptcy were unprofittable, they just weren't making as much money as projected and it was a standard legal practice for tax reasons to file for bankruptcy so you can restructure the debt, which was then paid off by giving the investors a higher percentage of ownership in the project.
Double post to hopefully stop this thread from being autistic about autism and getting back to being autistic about politics: (Also a slight John Flynt cross-post, as this was responsible for knocking a potentially serious contender out of the race that John is scampaigning in)
Counter to all previous indications, it would see the Democrats ARE learning.
Unfortunately they're learning all the wrong lessons.
The tl;dr is that the DCCC, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, who is the Democratic Congressional National level campaign fund warchest, has said they are blacklisting any political consultants who work for anyone who primaries against an incumbent.
In the wake of the DCCC’s new policy, two key consultants resigned from the would-be campaign of a primary challenger, and now it may not happen at all.
The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has a plan to prevent another Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez-type incumbent challenger from ever succeeding again, and it appears to be already working.
splinternews.com
They are making sure there are no AOC/Sanders surprises in the future. No one is going to get to run on the Dem ticket without the approval of the higher ups. You are going to toe the party line, and The Party will decide how much choice you should have, Comrade.
Watching DNC NPCs explain this will be GLORIOUS*.
*I mean we know they'll just do some quick "Freedom is Slavery" doublethink, but making them do it in the open is always fun
Double post to hopefully stop being autistic about autism and getting back to being autistic about politics
Counter to all previous indications, it would see the Democrats ARE learning.
Unfortunately they're learning all the wrong lessons.
The tl;dr is that the DCCC, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, who is the Democratic Congressional National level campaign fund warchest, has said they are blacklisting any political consultants who work for anyone who primaries against an incumbent.
In the wake of the DCCC’s new policy, two key consultants resigned from the would-be campaign of a primary challenger, and now it may not happen at all.
The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has a plan to prevent another Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez-type incumbent challenger from ever succeeding again, and it appears to be already working.
splinternews.com
They are making sure there are no AOC/Sanders surprises in the future.
Watching DNC NPCs explain this will be GLORIOUS*.
*I mean we know they'll just do some quick "Freedom is Slavery" doublethink, but making them do it in the open is always fun
This seems just like them doubling down on Party loyalty and giving the appearance of learning. It's not like any of this isn't hard to see how it happened, what else do you expect will happen when you pander to the insane progressive crowd that always eats their own?
