Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

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They genuinely and wholeheartedly believe that this is all going to blow over. That Vic will just go away and die, they'll get their asspats and tendies for "fighting the good fight" and "believing wammyn" and being good little White Knight cucks for the mean girls, all while everyone upset at them are literally just GamerGaterNaziAltrightCapitalistDudebroFacistChristans who will get bored and fuck off and let them go on like nothing's happening, because that's how it always works.

They absolutely do not get that the second lawyers got involved everything changed. They fucked up. They picked the wrong target -- Vic is so clean he could probably fill in for Mr. Rogers on PBS. They went in too late, long after the Tumblr Fujoshi community was well known for being insane and full of shit by the rest of the weeb community. The journo-activists they normally would rely on were regulated to a single site (ANN) which no one cares about, and the secondary backup sites like HuffPo and Guardian that would have helped set the narrative recently lost all their culture war Journo-Activists when the Obama propaganda money ran out.

They didn't have the mental fortitude to change directions when the pushback happened, since "oh it's just nerds, anime's a nerdy hobby, you learn to ignore them unless you're selling something." They convinced themselves that GamerGate was a fluke, and they did so so effectively that they outright rejected the lessons of it -- the most important being do not bring your politics into business, and do not insult your customers.

They doubled down. They tripled down. They quadrupled down. They started attacking other bit players with false rape accusations and cried harassment and safety concerns, pretending to be damsels in distress so white knights would save them, because again, this is literally how it always works, so why wouldn't it now?

The only sad thing is I don't think the impending skullfucking will be enough to get it through to them. Yeah, as a whole, the West is Gynocentric as hell and will treat all females like the brain damaged toddlers people like MarzGurl or Rial act like, which means protecting them from all harm up to and including responsibility for their own actions. But there's a limit, and that limit tends to be somewhere on the other side of the legal system, outside of corrupted aspects like Family Law.

What I see happening instead is I see them completely and utterly losing their goddamned minds, their autistic screeching acting as a Horn of Gondor for their allies. To that end... How long until Zoe Quinn decides Comics really isn't FOR her, what she really wants is to voice act? Or Anita Sarkeesian decides that what Japanese culture really needs is some good ol' fashioned Gender Marxism?
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If those two don't show up before the lawsuits drop they probably won't ever show up. You'd figure by now with Blobfish screeching about it all the time Quinn would have entered the fray. Maybe due to lawyers being involved they probably just avoiding it altogether.
 
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Allanon said:
You're still being overdramatic, here. I play DnD myself - and not those 4th and 5th edition turds - but it doesn't personally affect me if there's some gamestore that has adventures league running. If I want to set up a game with people who want to play 2nd ed or 3rd ed or even the original version, I can still do that. I can even contact a gamestore and arrange to have a night (or more, if it's popular) to start hosting those games. That people enjoy playing an MMO-ized DnD doesn't prevent me from continuing to enjoy the versions I do. It might reduce some the fan content made for it, but eh. There's communities for the classic stuff. It can't really 'reduce' it, if the content creators got into the scene because of the later ones in the first place.

I don't really get why people showing up who aren't interested in competing would somehow ruin competitions for the people who do want to compete. They're not competing. How are they interfering? Maybe you're not wording that right.

As for the attention seekers, I mean...literally just ignore them. They'll shrivel up and die in a poof of smoke if you just ignore them and do your thing. Or straighten out and just play the game, whichever way you win. I get that it might not always be ideal or as pleasant as the original situation with only hardcore gameweebs about it, but the conclusion that it's now been ruined and your only recourse is to take your ball and go home is just dramatic and ridiculous. Either adapt or keep doing what you've always been doing and ignore people who aren't playing along. There will always be people willing to do it your way, because if your way wasn't fun to begin with no one would have joined in the first place.

SJWs are a problem because while they may masquerade as casuals or attention seekers for a while, they inevitably come out as what they really are. And the casual might want the game dumbed down for them to keep up, the attention whore might want rules to be bent or broken for them, but it's usually just in a bubble around them. Don't play with them and the allowances for them usually don't apply. SJWs make it their mission to leave their mark on the world by restructuring everything, and they pressure everyone with guilt and self-righteousness so if you don't change it or give them control you're an awful person, and they'll probably start threatening your relationships/livelihood if you resist (but don't eject) them.

Casuals are more like dry skin. They have the potential to get worse, become cracked, end up bleeding and eventually even start building up infections that do harm to the whole body...but you kind of have to go out of your way to let and even cause that to happen. SJWs are an aggressive cancer. If you don't remove it from the body or kill it, it will kill the body and make a horrific twisted copy of the body out of its remains.
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Again, I think you're being a bit short-sighted. The options you have aren't available or even applicable for most people. I certainly didn't have those choices. I'd say most people don't have those options. For me, it was either: play, or go somewhere else.

And no, I don't think I worded it poorly... At one point I started attending competitive events, and people who didn't even really care about the game started attending shortly after. They ruined the events because they were competing. They kept causing problems and the events slowed to a crawl. A lot of the more competitive players eventually left and tried to reorganize elsewhere, but the competitve community splintered into a few different regional groups as a result. Some left to play other games. Some went to other shops. On and on...

Say what you will, but it happened almost exactly like the comic portrayed it. And while I don't think we had a "casual" problem, I don't think I'm the only person in a hobby who's experienced something like this. I don't even disagree with your stance on SJWs, I just think that this is what happens when narcissists (SJWs or otherwise) try to take over a hobby.
 
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Son of Sparda 84 said:
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You missed this gem in the comments section of this tweet.

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Mathas said:
Again, I think you're being a bit short-sighted. The options you have aren't available or even applicable for most people. I certainly didn't have those choices. I'd say most people don't have those options. For me, it was either: play, or go somewhere else.

And no, I don't think I worded it poorly... At one point I started attending competitive events, and people who didn't even really care about the game started attending shortly after. They ruined the events because they were competing. They kept causing problems and the events slowed to a crawl. A lot of the more competitive players eventually left and tried to reorganize elsewhere, but the competitve community splintered into a few different regional groups as a result. Some left to play other games. Some went to other shops. On and on...

Say what you will, but it happened almost exactly like the comic portrayed it. And while I don't think we had a "casual" problem, I don't think I'm the only person in a hobby who's experienced something like this. I don't even disagree with your stance on SJWs, I just think that this is what happens when narcissists (SJWs or otherwise) try to take over a hobby.
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Umm Yea my first 40k/WHFB experience was pretty much trash. The area I lived in only had one place to play and it was pretty competitive. They did tourneys regularly and you got store credit as prizes. They had a couple of people that basically "Won" several new armies due to this. The problem is these people are in it to win more models so they don't see new people as joining the hobby as much as more money for the tourneys. Saw them giving slightly bad advice to new players and when the new guy would lose it would be "It just didn't work this time". Eventually stopped going to that place.

Fast Forward to when I moved to a place who didn't charge money for tourneys but granted you didn't get store credit, it was just about the game and little trophies. We did have some Hyper competitive players but they were greatly outnumbered by the more casual players. And some of us casuals would usually have to knock the hypers down a notch every once in a while just to remind them this is more relaxed than what they were used to.

TLDR: Mathas is right on some points if your area only supports a small community it can stagnate or crumble due to numerous issues.
 
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Urbanmech said:
So how often do guests drop out of Cons? Reason I am asking is the way Shannon McCordick was chimping out about ethics just because Nick got his hands on a blank con contract. Like I am wondering if he was afraid Nicks stream would empower Con Owners with the knowledge of being able to enforce their contracts while at the same time the guest lose power because they can't cancel on a whim now. I just found it odd that he was just going nuts and was curious if it was common and Mcordick was afraid of the knowledge Nick was dropping.
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In likely 99% of the cases of a guest dropping out it is typically something allowable in the contract and everybody is understanding. Illness being the big one. People get sick. It happens. That other strange thing about being under contract for a studio event is really about reshoots, and it mainly applies to the live action actors. Their calendars can shift if the studio for their last project needs reshoots, and they are required. The actors have no control over that schedule. So typically if someone cancels it is for good reason. Or they apologetically work it out with the con. Nobody faults an actor if a role lands unexpectedly in his lap and he’s gotta go.

This new approach of weaponizing their own contract breach against the con itself is fairly new.
 
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Urbanmech said:
Umm Yea my first 40k/WHFB experience was pretty much trash. The area I lived in only had one place to play and it was pretty competitive. They did tourneys regularly and you got store credit as prizes. They had a couple of people that basically "Won" several new armies due to this. The problem is these people are in it to win more models so they don't see new people as joining the hobby as much as more money for the tourneys. Saw them giving slightly bad advice to new players and when the new guy would lose it would be "It just didn't work this time". Eventually stopped going to that place.

Fast Forward to when I moved to a place who didn't charge money for tourneys but granted you didn't get store credit, it was just about the game and little trophies. We did have some Hyper competitive players but they were greatly outnumbered by the more casual players. And some of us casuals would usually have to knock the hypers down a notch every once in a while just to remind them this is more relaxed than what they were used to.

TLDR: Mathas is right on some points if your area only supports a small community it can stagnate or crumble due to numerous issues.
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Exactly. I'm not saying it to be mean or to be elitist, but I think it's healthy to kind of split the community into the competitive and casual groups. It's not a real divide, as the competitive people who want to help others enter the hobby can still attend casual events and help teach new players, etc. but no one has fun when new or uninterested players attend high-level events.

Hardcore players don't get the competition they want, new players get BTFO'd and get discouraged, and the truly uninterested continue being uninterested. And when prizes enter the equation, people can be downright unpleasant. So when you have people who don't even really care about the game entering events meant to be highly competitive, slowing things down and causing issues, it's bound to get frustrating.

It certainly goes both ways. A bad casual community can destroy a competitive scene, and a bad competitive scene can drive away casual players. There's gotta be a balance.
 
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jellycar said:
Elizabeth Maxwell? Shit I forgot she was Urbosa in Breath of the Wild


In regards to current DBZ va's, anyone unaccounted for? (Roshi? Android 18?)
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Meredith McCoy is basically retired as an actress and apparently doesn't live in Texas anymore(she was even replaced in Kai and in the games that came out in that period because of that.She only returned starting from Battle of Gods).She literally just comes back to voice 18 so she really doesn't have a stake in this
 
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Son of Sparda 84 said:

Vic Mignogna - Page 126 • Kanzenshuu

www.kanzenshuu.com www.kanzenshuu.com

Just scroll down that page and see the responses to a comment about why Nick is so popular when he's done blackface.

I'll say it again. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?
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What really gets me is that for a group of people claiming to be obssessed Anime fans they really, really hate the medium they claim to be fans of and the other fans of that medium.

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Just LEAVE then. You don't like it, nobody likes you, let people have their escapist entertainment. Its all so tiresome.
 
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RodgerDodger said:
In likely 99% of the cases of a guest dropping out it is typically something allowable in the contract and everybody is understanding. Illness being the big one. People get sick. It happens. That other strange thing about being under contract for a studio event is really about reshoots, and it mainly applies to the live action actors. Their calendars can shift if the studio for their last project needs reshoots, and they are required. The actors have no control over that schedule. So typically if someone cancels it is for good reason. Or they apologetically work it out with the con. Nobody faults an actor if a role lands unexpectedly in his lap and he’s gotta go.

This new approach of weaponizing their own contract breach against the con itself is fairly new.
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Yea I was wondering if maybe they were abusing the system to a degree but it seems like its just more along the lines of "Shit they found out we don't have a magical fairy exit clause".
 
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ProtecSpeedwagon said:
So it says that it was archived 2 days ago, but i dont remember seeing this posted here:

Just tripped across this when flipping through the recently announced guest's twitter accounts:

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Just looked through her twitter likes and yep she's liked the KickVic tweets

EDIT: I pray to God she doesn't have a Vic story or she cancels her appearance at Kamehacon
 
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KamehaCon is done, No Monaka, No Grand Zeno, No Grand Priest, No 4th Bulma.

Just look at who else has been announced:
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Absolute nobodies.

I wish I could go to KC, legit love Dabura's voice and Android 17 was my favorite character during Super
 
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mindlessobserver said:
An archive a day, keeps the lolcow at bay

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I've already added the megaparse to the archive.
If you use the archive.today backends, the collection will automagically Do TheThing™.

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I don't want to just keep making more entries on the same person unless the tweet in question is a spicy meatball, and my soul is already exhausted with this 40-year-old wine mom.

Thought that the word for a 40-year-old VolCel is called a feminist?


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KamehaCon is done, No Monaka, No Grand Zeno, No Grand Priest, No 4th Bulma.

Just look at who else has been announced:
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Absolute nobodies.

I wish I could go to KC, legit love Dabura's voice and Android 17 was my favorite character during Super
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Clint Westwood said:
It is interesting, though. What's the deal with that? Why hasn't La Choy suggested a lawyer to Rial?
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That would be fun to watch. I am saying that Ron might have barely enough brain cells to realise that he's in the shitter. That said, I'd say he's gonna be in for a rough time.
 
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